Arden Moore: Welcome to Oh Behave on Pet Life Radio. I’m your host Arden Moore. Thank you for tuning in. Today we are going to be discussing something that’s very near and dear to us. You know, everyone loves a good mystery. That is until that mystery surrounds your missing pet. I know. Two of my cats went missing, one for 57 days before I was reunited with him, so I felt pretty fortunate. But not everyone is so fortunate. Today we have a very special guest who ranks as probably the worlds best at finding lost pets. She is Kat Albrecht, a retired police K-9 officer and founder of Missing Pet Partnerships, a group that actually trains pet detectives. Welcome to the Oh Behave show, Kat.

Kat Albrecht: Thank you Arden.

Arden Moore: I’m really glad that you’re here. I think you’re going to be able to help our listeners a lot with something that’s, something we wish never happens.

Kat Albrecht: Exactly. I hope so too.

Arden Moore: Alright, well we’re going to tune in to learn about how to be a pet detective, what it’s all about from the best, right after this commercial break.

Arden Moore: Welcome back. You’re listening to Oh Behave on Pet Life Radio. I’m your host, Arden Moore. As mentioned, today we have a very special guest, Kat Albrecht. She knows how to sniff out clues probably on par with any bloodhound. We are very lucky because she is going to not only be here for this show, but she’s agreed to come back for next show because she has so much media advice. She is the founder of Missing Pet Partnerships. She’s authored two great books that you all need to dash off after the show to buy. They are called Lost Pet Chronicles and Dog Detectives: Train Your Dog to Find Lost Pets. Like I said, we’re doggone lucky because Kat has agreed to come back next week to continue her fascinating and helpful insights into why pets get lost, and more importantly, how to improve your chances of finding them. So next week, just so you got it marked down on your calendar, Kat will talk about her Missing Pet Partnerships in greater detail, and she’s going to explain to us how you can become actually certified in finding lost pets in your community, and best of all, how to train your dog to be a pet detective. But for today, we’re going to act like pet detectives ourselves and find out who the heck is Kat Albrecht, why she does what she does, what the best tactics to take if your dog or cat should go missing and figuring out the differences in lost behavior between cats and dogs. You know, many of us might’ve watched Jim Carey play Ace Ventura: Pet Detective years ago. Now it was probably his breakout role for this very talented comedian. But you know what? Kat is the real deal. She is America’s pet detective. So glad you can join us Kat for not one, but two shows. What a treat. So first of all, people are thinking, “Boy, she’s got a feline name. Who the heck is Kat Albrecht and what’s she doing with being a detective?” So clue us in, will you Kat?

Kat Albrecht: Well actually it was a nickname from Junior High that stuck, and I, I mean if I’d a known back then that I was going to be a pet detective I don’t, I don’t know if I would’ve let it stick, but, you know, my best friend, her name was Kathy and I was Kathy and we became Kat and Kat, and it’s just kind of I guess fortuitous, but…

Arden Moore: Well think about it this way, at least your name was Kat in Junior High School. I’m, there’s many of us who are not going to disclose what nicknames we were given…

Kat Albrecht: True.

Arden Moore: that we probably wouldn’t put our name on a book like that, so it’s not so bad. But Kat, you, you’re sort of like a CSI person, and I think of that as sort of like a K-9 sniffing investigator. A lot of us like to tune into those shows on TV. But, you know, you’re doing the real deal, there’s no commercial breaks when you’re trying to help find a missing pet. I was hoping you could give us a little background about yourself.

Kat Albrecht: Well, you know, I, my pet detective work just evolved from, it’s a natural extension from the training that, you know, experience and training that I’ve had over the years in both search and rescue, you know, the science of finding missing people, that the training and utilization of search and rescue dogs, my investigative skills as a police officer and the detective training that I had and was a detective for two years, so, you know, all of that ultimately, you know, came into play when I went through my life paradigm shift when my dog was missing. But before, you know, before all that, yeah, I’ll let you know that back in 1989 I read an article in Dog World Magazine about cadaver dogs and I was fascinated by it, by the concept of a potential way that I could train a dog to help in law enforcement because my passion had always been dogs and police work, but at the time I hadn’t, you know, wanted to become a police officer, I had thought I wanted to be a cop since I was 13 but, but I read this article and I figured this is a way that I could train a dog to volunteer and to find dead people and my family thought I was nuts, you know. And this was before there was a lot of knowledge about human remains detection dogs that they’re called now or cadaver dogs. But I was fascinated by it and my favorite breed has always been the Weimereiner, and I saw in the pictures they had police dogs doing this, you know, German Shepard, German Shepard, German Shepard, German Shepard, German Short Haired Pointer, when I saw that I said, “I’m gong to get a Weimereiner puppy and I’m going to train it to find dead people”, and so I did, you know. I got Rachel, and my first dog and began, or actually my first search dog, and began training her and got involved in training her in search and rescue work, and…

Arden Moore: Was she sniffing around, was she just like, “I sniff dead people.” Is that what you taught her?

Kat Albrecht: No. She’d sniff cow poop and dead animals and anything that she could get into that she could roll in, she just loved her work, you know, and one of the quote/unquote “problems” I had with her was she would critter, meaning she loved to go on a bunny hunt, I’d be out there and stuck in a search for the, you know, the human remains and she’d be out there, “No, but there’s a bunny”, so….

Arden Moore: “Bunny’s. Bunny’s don’t smell, they taste great.”

Kat Albrecht: You know, I mean I didn’t know that this was, that she had natural talent to, you know, that could be put to good use. You know, I would go to a training seminar for training search and rescue dogs and they’d be, “No, you need to correct her”, you know, even had somebody tell me to put a shock collar on her, thank God I didn’t, you know, I couldn’t, and thank God I didn’t because, you know, and then I didn’t train out of her what was her forte which was love, love, love kitties. When she smelled a cat she just got so wiggly, wiggly, wiggly, and that became her alert, you know, when I ultimately began using her to look for missing kitties. Boy, when she would pick up a scent, she would tell me with her tail and with her body language. But, yeah, but before I even had any vision of pet, pet detecting, I then got my bloodhound A.J. because I read a book about police bloodhounds and I went to the police academy and said, “I’m going to become a police bloodhound handler”, and kind of went in that direction.

Arden Moore: Wow! You know, A.J. has a very special story. Lets talk a little bit about your role as a police officer with A.J. and then something unexpected happened.

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: Da da da da. That’s where the drama music comes in.

Kat Albrecht: Dun…Yeah, you know, he was a great, great dog, you know. I didn’t use him on his first search. This was, again, for people, I was using him for missing, missing persons and criminals, and I didn’t use him until I had spent 2 years training him, but his first missing person search he tracked up and found an Alzheimer’s patient that was lost, and then he ended up, you know, finding several people. In fact, one of them he earned a National Life Saving award for tracking down a man that had gone off into the woods and had shot himself but survived, and if it hadn’t of been for A.J. and actually for another dog that had worked the case, a Golden Retriever, I actually credit that do more than A.J. because that handler trusted her dog, and I tended to like, oh, it didn’t make sense that this man would go through this gate and close it and lock it, but, but, so A.J. had done some fantastic tracking work and had caught a burglary suspect and, and then, you know, I’d been using him for a few years, and then in 1996 one day he dug out from my backyard and was gone and was lost in the woods, and I have to tell you…

Arden Moore: Now where were you living at the time, where were you living?

Kat Albrecht: This was in, I had moved to Santa Cruz and become a police officer, you know, in the UC Santa Cruz Police Department and was living in the Redwoods in the Santa Cruz mountains and, you know, I had, you know, I knew what I needed, I needed a dog that I could scent on AJ’s bedding to track him down and find him because that’s what A.J. did. He would, you know, take the scent of the missing person and track him down and find him, and so, I mean, I panicked and I ran around, I didn’t know which direction to go, but I ran around my neighborhood calling his name and screaming and crying. Already in my mind I had him, he had been hit by a car in my mind, I had buried him, I would never see him again, somebody would keep him and not give him back, I mean, all these, this overwhelming panic grief came over me to where I just felt like, like I had never experienced anything like this before. But I got on the phone and I called Jeanie who had Kaya, that Golden Retriever that…

Arden Moore: Oh, there you go, the one that really…

Kat Albrecht: Yeah, that did a way better job than me and my bloodhound, and I, after, you know, I called her and said “A.J.’s missing”, and you know, there’s a cardinal rule in search and rescue work that you do not use a search and rescue dog to track missing pets, you know, you often ask that, but you just don’t do that because you spend so much time training your dogs not to follow animal scent and so, but, you know, Jean and I had never discussed it before but she knew right away, and I knew that if, you know, her dog, he had ever gone missing I would’ve used A.J. to track her dog, and so anyway, she, actually her daughter came ‘cause Jeanie was out of town and we scented Kay on A.J.’s bedding and she tracked him down in 20 minutes and found him, and…

Arden Moore: Was he enjoying yappy hour somewhere or what was he doing?

Kat Albrecht: No she’s, no, you mean Jeanie she was, no, she was over…

Arden Moore: No, A.J., A.J. I don’t want know about Jeanie….

Kat Albrecht: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he was actually wet. When we found him he was in the neighborhood but down below my place, I kind of lived on a hill in the mountains, and so he was down the hill sniffing on, around somebody’s front porch, but he was wet so he had gone all the way down to the bottom of the creek and had been in the creek, and then just was, you know, snooping around. You know, had no interest in coming back home. I mean, he’s a hound, and he just wanted to, you know, they just get on a scent and there they go. But…

Arden Moore: Head, nose will go, yeah. So what happened when you saw him? I mean, I got to tell you…

Kat Albrecht: Oh man I just, I just collapsed and, well not collapsed, but I mean, I was just so relieved, you know, and I went home and, you know, profusely thanked Stacy and then proceeded to just sit down and had a cup of coffee and then started thinking, you know, “Okay, why, we know how to train dogs to find people, why aren’t we training them to track lost pets?” You know, it really made me start thinking, why aren’t we doing this? How many pets go missing a day that could be using this type of service, you know? And the idea, I mean, I actually put the idea out on the internet to a group of another search and rescue dog people and, you know, why doesn’t somebody do this, ‘cause it wasn’t going to be me because I was training my second bloodhound Chase to be my swat dog to track criminals and, and, you know, and I was too busy and I, but I put the idea out there and I, the normally chatty group suddenly went silent…

Arden Moore: Really?

Kat Albrecht: and it was kind of like, you know, yeah, because it was like, “What are you talking about?” The one person who piped up pretty much said, “We know how long it takes to train a dog to find people. Why would we waste our time in training one to find lost pets?” and, you know, in retrospect I understand…

Arden Moore: Ouch, ouch, ouch.

Kat Albrecht: Well, you know, in retrospect…

Arden Moore: Yeah.

Kat Albrecht: I understand what they’re saying. Their focus was on search and rescue…

Arden Moore: Yeah.

Kat Albrecht: and finding people, you know?

Arden Moore: Right.

Kat Albrecht: But in my, back of my mind I thought, “Well okay, what happens when your search and rescue dog goes missing.” You know, we need this for, to, we need dogs that can track down the missing search and rescue dogs and the missing police dogs and all the missing dogs. And so I tried to dismiss the idea, but it haunted me for about six months. So that was, you know, that happened with A.J. in the Spring of 2006, and then it wasn’t until December of 2006 I finally decided I have to try this as an experiment. And, you know, by that time I retired Rachel from her cadaver work, and I just thought, you know, I want to take Rachel and see how she, how she does, see if she can do this. You know, I…

Arden Moore: Is this 2006 or 1996 that you did this?

Kat Albrecht: Oh, I’m sorry. Duh. 1996. Yeah…

Arden Moore: I just want to get a, I want to get a…

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: really meaty treat for paying attention to the dates. I could be a detective.

Kat Albrecht: Well I have that dementia gene going, you know.

Arden Moore: Oh, no, no, no.

Kat Albrecht: That is my fallback, yeah. Well so, yeah, so, you know, I just, I just couldn’t, I couldn’t shake the idea. I mean, like I said, it haunted me and so I just stared, continued training my hounds but then I just would work in and hide a kitty from Rachel, and I still remember the first time that I took a tuft of cat fur and I hid my cat Yogi in the woods and I took a tuft of cat fur and I put it under Rachel’s nose and told her, “Rachel, take scent. Find the kitty.” She looked up at me like, “Yes, finally you understand what I’ve been trying to tell you all along”, you know.

Arden Moore: Oh yeah.

Kat Albrecht: So she just fell in love with her work, you know, and so I said…

Arden Moore: Well how did Yogi feel about being out in the woods, going, “Holy, I’m stuck out here. What is she doing? They better find me. This isn’t cool. I’m agoraphobic.”

Kat Albrecht: She did not, she was not, now we’ve learned from Yogi what cats not to use for…

Arden Moore: Okay.

Kat Albrecht: what we call to be target cats. I mean, she loved, I mean she didn’t love the dogs, but she tolerated it and what have you, but she, yeah, she wasn’t really…

Arden Moore: She probably was giving you the paw, you know, like, “You know…

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: this is not cool, not cool. I’m getting slobbered by Rachel.”

Kat Albrecht: Yeah. And so spent four months in, you know, Rachel really had all the training she needed, but I mean, I just spent four months focusing on the pets with her, and in her first four searches, Rachel found two missing cats and one missing dog, and I realized, you know, I’m onto something, and not only that but the people that we helped were so grateful that someone cared enough to come out and help them look. And even in the case where we didn’t find the missing pet at all they were grateful for the services and, you know, began to encourage me, “You need to do something with this”, ‘cause at the time, you know, I was working a graveyard shift as a cop and moonlighting as a pet detective. And, you know, so then it just kind of evolved.

Arden Moore: You know folks, we’re listening to Kat Albrecht. She is probably America’s best pet detective, and we’re going to take a commercial break and we’re going to be right back.

Arden Moore: Welcome back to the Oh Behave show on Pet Life Radio. I’m your host Arden Moore. As I’ve mentioned, we have Kat Albrecht on who is a pet detective, and a very good one at that. She is also the author of The Lost Pet Chronicles and Dog Detectives: Train Your Dog to Find Lost Pets. I know you’re as curious as a cat right now so write this down. The website is www.pethunters.com. As mentioned, she is a retired K-9 police officer who has now founded Missing Pet Partnerships, and we were talking about her dog Rachel, who was able to find 3 out of 4 of her first pet assignments. You know, 3 out of 4 missing pets, you know, if I was a major league baseball player, I would be in the Hall of Fame if I had a batting average like Rachel did. So Kat, welcome back again to Oh Behave.

Kat Albrecht: Thank you. Yeah, so, you know, I began working cases on the side and began to realize that, you know what, this needs to be developed into something and, and at the time, this was in 1997, and actually in the September of 1997, I met an attorney who, at a dog event and I was contemplating forming a non profit organization, and he said that he could help me do that. And it was right at that time also that Oprah Winfrey had launched a program called The Angel Network and had a guest on the show that had talked about, you know, that we need to be a society that gives and just the importance of, of, you know, helping others, not out of a desire for money and what have you. Anyway, it was just, I don’t recall everything about it, but I just know that that was kind of the tipping point that made me realize that, you know, that I had a choice to make because I had, I began to start getting some notoriety in the local paper and had been interviewed in a national magazine and I had people contacting me from around the country asking me to fly out, you know, across the country to look for their missing pets and they would pay me anything. Well, you know, I, and in my research in finding, asking other search and rescue people, “Why hasn’t anybody been doing this before?” and they said, “Oh, there was a guy in Texas who had trained his bloodhound and was, you know, would charge, you know a hundred bucks to go and track lost dogs”, and I said, “Well, what happened to him?”, and they said, “Oh well, he died in 1984”, and I thought, “Well what happens when I die?” You know, and that was really the point where I made the decision of, you know, I don’t want, this isn’t about me and my dog. This is about people who love their animals like family members who are alone in their grief, alone in their efforts and who need help, and that if I’m, if I’m going to do anything I want to pour my knowledge and information into a non profit organization that will community based pet loss services because people shouldn’t have to try to, this shouldn’t be a service that’s available only to the wealthy who could afford to pay a last minute plane ticket to fly me and my hound across country to track their missing pet, and, you know, so that’s been the vision, but, you know, I’ll tell you, early on when I first expressed that vision to a friend or, you know, she was a colleague who had a search and rescue dog and also had volunteered at her local shelter, she laughed and told me I was having a pipe dream. If I thought I could make a living as a pet detective or that if I thought that animal shelters would embrace the concept of lost pet services, and I hung up the phone and I cried and then I got mad, and that’s at the same time, this is September 1997 and I said, “You want to see a pipe dream, watch this. I’m going to develop and dream about a national organization, not just being a local pet detective. I’m going to, you know, take this and develop this on a national level”, and it, and it’s been a real struggle.

Arden Moore: Well, you know, I think you’re friend was smoking something in that pipe that wasn’t giving her clear thoughts. And secondly, you know, you’re not Oprah…

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: but you are doing very priceless work, and I think that vision is what is, we need more of in this country, especially when it comes to our pets. I mean, it’s horrific when we lose our pet, and it could just happen a flash. I mean, I remember I had a great cat that used to love being out in the back yard on a little, light little leash, and, you know, I was always there watching her and everything, and it was weird but, her name was Samantha and we called her, “Sam, Sam, the wild man”, you know, just got to give a stupid name. But my mom was dying of cancer and she was dying at her home and it was one of those things where the phone rang and I was outside, and this is before you had the cool cell phones, and I knew I had to run inside to take that call, and it was the call that my mom had passed away. I came back outside and Samantha was gone. I’m like, “Holy crap, how come I lose my mom and my cat in one minute”, and this cat was gone for 57 days and we did everything you could. My mom died at age 57…

Kat Albrecht: Wow!

Arden Moore: Weird. But anyway, it was a good reunion, we were able to find her again, I never gave up. But it is a, it just hits you in the gut feeling…

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: no matter who you are, when your pet all of a sudden goes missing, whether the repair man opens the door and a cat or a dog dashes out…

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: So I do applaud you for what you’re doing because you’re doing it on a bigger platform, and that’s what this Missing Pet Partnership is all about, correct?

Kat Albrecht: Yeah.

Arden Moore: And…

Kat Albrecht: Absolutely. It’s about, you know, developing community based pet loss services, both training of volunteers, training and certification of professional pet detectives with the tracking dogs and the CSI forensic, you know, training and what have you and how to solve investigations and use deductive reasoning and we’ll get all into that later, but you know, it’s about that, but it’s also about working with, partnering with animal shelters. We have a real vision to develop, to pass down and develop and launch programs with shelters that will help them to back investigate a lot of the strays that end up in their shelters. You know, right now they’re basically just picking up a stray dog and holding it and then waiting for the owner to show up. Well we discovered, there’s many reasons why pet owners don’t show up at their, at the shelter and, you know, it’s, when you have high euthanasia rates and you’re looking for solutions, you have to be innovative, and if we can develop systems and change some of the, you know, old policies of just leaving it totally up to the owner to come down and identify their animal, and yet recognize and realize that there are other things that we could be doing to get that dog out of the shelter and back home, you know, we’re doing a good thing.

Arden Moore: What are some of the reasons that you found that, just to share with our listeners, as to why an owner doesn’t show up to that particular shelter when their dog might be there.

Kat Albrecht: Some of it is that they’re new to the area, they’re not educated on where the shelter is or the sheltering system. I mean, there are people, there are people out there who own dogs and cats who are just clueless about that there even is a system that will pick up their stray dog. There are people who are injured or in the hospital or that have to make a choice between getting to that shelter or getting to a funeral or to a, or keeping their job. There are shelters that have limited hours, in my area our shelter hours are 2pm to 6pm, and what if you’re working the swing shift and you’re not able to go or you have to make a choice between your job. There’s people, we assume that everybody speaks English, that everybody has transportation, that everybody has a driver’s license and a car, we assume that everybody is physically able to come down there and that they’re mentally able, or that they’re young and healthy, we don’t realize that there are elderly people who lose their animals who quickly give up hope, who may call the shelter and think that they’re doing the right thing, but that, are told that they have to come down, and then they just grieve and realize, “Well, I just, I can’t do this ‘cause I have nobody to take me there” and then there their dog sits at the shelter unclaimed. We have people who have warrants for their arrest that are afraid of uniforms. We have people that speak other languages, you know, or that are out of state or out of town and the boarding kennel pet sitter isn’t quite sure or doesn’t do the proper things to look for the animals. I mean, there’s just a myriad of information. Or people that know that they’d have to pay bail and they don’t have the money. But there are things that we can do to counter some of that. And there are dogs that are picked up by well meaning rescuers who take the dog to a no  kill shelter or to a distant city because they think it will be, have a better chance of being euthanized and the one place that the owner is searching, they’re local shelter, it’s the last place often times where a found dog is taken, so we already have a messed up system in place, whereas with missing people we have one central clearing house, it’s called 911, you lose a toddler or you find a toddler, everybody calls the same place. But when it comes to missing dogs or cats or stray found dogs or cats, it’s a mess.

Arden Moore: Well it’s a mess now, but I have a feeling with people of your talent we may have a pet version of 911 some day.

Kat Albrecht: I hope so, you know, and I just want to say again, you know, I don’t do what I’m doing to get the glory. I think that I may have been the first person that came in to the animal welfare industry looking through the lens of law enforcement and search and rescue and the science of finding missing people and realized, wait a minute, you know, there’s a lot of things that we’re doing successfully in looking for and finding missing people and solving missing person investigations that we can apply to missing animals. Just how veterinarian medicine mirrors the medical treatment for humans, we can take this same, so I haven’t created really anything new, I’ve really taken the wheel of law enforcement and search and rescue that already exists and applied it in the pet industry and found, oh my gosh, this works, you know, and a lot of that has evolved. I mean, it began with the use of the search dogs, but there’s so much more that we’ve, applications that we’ve developed or that we’ve been applying over the years, and not all of them are ones that I’ve discovered, some of them are things that some of the people that I’ve trained have gone out and discovered and used, and so, yeah.

Arden Moore: I think this is a good time too to get your take on, you know, everybody should have an ID tag on their dog and cat and, you know, include their name and phone number, and when I travel with my pets, I actually include my cell phone number. But more importantly, you know, microchiping, it’s sort of like the GPS system if you will for pets, and it’s not perfect, but what’s your take on the importance and some of the pros and cons on microchipping?

Kat Albrecht: Oh, absolutely. You know, all my animals wear, including my cats, where collars with tags and/or microchips. The tags, the collars that I use on my cats, some people are afraid of putting a collar on the cat, I’ve found a stretchy band cat collar that works, it’s Velcroed on and so if the cat were to get hung up on something, he’d be able to pull out of it. You know, a lot of, I’ve heard people before that have indoor only cats that say, “Well, I never let my cat outside, so I don’t need to put a collar on them.” Well those are the cats that are most at risk. If you have an indoor only cat, if that cat escapes outside, and trust me…

Arden Moore: They do.

Kat Albrecht: it can happen to anybody, they’re the one, their behavior is they’re going to hide in silence and they’re going to look and act like a feral cat, and that’s the cat that really needs the collar with the ID tag on the visible form of identification, but also that needs the microchip because if it’s picked up or humanely trapped three months later and taken down to the shelter, you want that shelter to be able to pick up and to scan it and be able to detect that this cat belongs to you.

Arden Moore: And I know we’re going to be talking more on our next show with you Kat about some of the behaviors exhibited by lost dogs and cats, and also get into just how we can become certified to be able to help missing pets in our community and even cooler, how we can train our own dogs. I am so glad that you have agreed to be on a back to back segment on Oh Behave because, as you can tell, we’re almost running out of time now, and we just are scratching at the surface about the importance of how to find missing pets. Folks, we’re listening to Oh Behave on Pet Life Radio. I’m your host Arden Moore. We have Kat Albrecht. She is America’s top pet detective and the author of Dog Detective: Train Your Dog to Find Lost Pets, and you can learn more about her on the pethunters.com. I also wanted to ask you Kat, is there anything else you wanted to mention before we sign off, and then we’ll have you back on again next week?

Kat Albrecht: Just that, you know, microchip your animals, make sure if they’re microchipped you register them because that’s one of the problems that is seen often is that a chip will be detective, be detected, but you have register it, just like you have to register your care with DMV, you need to contact the microchip company and make sure that you update your information, and there’s a registration fee involved, so just because you adopt an animal from the shelter or have your vet microchip, that there’s paperwork that needs to be done to register it, so make sure you register your animal and have it microchipped.

Arden Moore: You know, that is a very important point because I’ve learned as editor of Cat Nip we’ve done stories, it’s stunning, 40 percent of all pets who are microchipped, their owners have not done that final vital step, which is to file with the pet chip company. And so please folks, listen to what Kat is telling you. Please microchip and register your pet. It’s one of the best gifts you can give your pet. Well that’s it for today. I want to again thank my special guest, Kat Albrecht and my cool producer for making this show possible. If you’d like to know anymore information about this show or get a transcript of this show or any other show on Pet Life Radio Network, please just zip over to the website, PetLifeRadio.com and click on the Oh Behave show. If you have any questions or comments or ideas for a show please email me at arden@petliferadio.com. So until next time, this is your flea free host, Arden Moore delivering just two words to all of you two, three and four leggers out there, Oh Behave.