Lullabies for Dogs
Using the power of the sound of the human heartbeat combined with lullabies has a remarkable effect on dogs! Terry Woodford, a hit record producer, who worked with the Supremes and all the top bands, created lullabies with human heartbeats. These recordings were tested in neonatal baby cardiac units, and the music restored normal heartbeat in fifteen seconds. Parents with premature babies discovered not only did it reduce crying, but it calmed their dogs also. Terry’s Canine Lullabies are now played in over 4,000 animal shelters and calms whole rows of dogs down in less than two minutes. Calm dogs experience better outcomes in shelters including less kennel cough, less digestive upsets, and more rapid adoptions. These Canine Lullabies relax dogs, children and those will Alzheimer’s. These lullabies help calm dogs with thunder reactivity and other phobias. You will be inspired listening to the power of sound to transform mood, energy and emotions.
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BIO:
Education: Masters of Science, Institute of Textile Technology, Charlottesville, VA Bachelors of Science, Auburn University, Auburn, AL Professional Development: Mind and Body Medical Institute Courses, Department of Continuing Education, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
In 1962, Terry Woodford started out making music in Muscle Shoals Al. During his career as a hit record producer, music publisher, recording engineer, songwriter, Woodford supplied music and songs for top acts such as The Commodores, Jimmy Buffet, The Temptations, Alabama, Hank Williams Jr., Wayne Newton, Barbara Mandrell, Mac McAnally, John Kay of Steppenwolf, The Supremes, Hot and many others.
Terry served on the board of governors of the Nashville Chapter of the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences twice. He co-founded and taught courses for the first four year degree program in the country to teach the ins and outs of the music business at the University of North Alabama. Many of the song writers and students he mentored are well respected leaders in the record industry. One of his discoveries, Mac McAnally, was recently inducted into the Song writers Hall of Fame and has won CMA's musician of the year ten times. His former partners Clayton Ivey, Jimmy Johnson, Barry Beckett, Roger Hawkins and David Hood were inducted into the Musicians Hall of Fame in 2009. Terry also served as Chairman of the Alabama Music Hall of Fame board for five years. As a result a four million dollar museum was constructed in Tuscumbia, Alabama to honor Alabama's music achievers.
For years, Woodford would roll his eyes when parents wrote him about how their baby’s Heartbeat Lullabies recording was also calming their dog to sleep. He just assumed when the baby stopped crying the dog got a break like everyone else in the family.
But in 2004, members of the American Boarding Kennels Association (ABKA) verified that parents were on to something. Over 90 kennels reported that playing Heartbeat Lullabies for anxious dogs reduced separation anxiety, diarrhea, aggression and excessive barking. That same year researchers reported calming aggressive male chimps to sleep by playing the CD at the Honolulu Zoo.
Woodford knew if he tried to market the baby lullaby CD to calm barking dogs, he would be setting himself up for ridicule and disbelief from skeptics. But when he saw the music calm 50 frightened barking dogs in less than two minutes in a Colorado humane society, he decided to go for it. “It would have been irresponsible not to share the dramatic successes animal care providers were having playing the CD for their upset dogs,” says Woodford. “When we played the Canine Lullabies CD stress levels were way low which makes the dogs a lot easier to adopt.” Says, Susan Friedenburg, Adoption Manager, Colorado Humane Society /SPCA Englewood.
Hundreds of humane societies, rescue shelters and animal clinics across America and Great Britain are discovering they can make their dogs more comfortable and more adoptable by playing the Canine Lullabies CD. Upon request the Canine Lullabies CDs are provided free to shelters, humane societies, and animal clinics to use in their facility.
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Genie Joseph: Hi, everyone.
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Genie Joseph: So glad you're joining us for The Human-Animal Connection podcast.
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Genie Joseph: And I have a really fun show for you today.
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Genie Joseph: We're going to be talking about, you know, we talk about singing to your dog.
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Genie Joseph: So we're going to talk to the creator of Canine Lullabies, Terry Woodford.
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Genie Joseph: And he was formerly a producer, music producer of hit songs for all kinds of famous groups, the Supremes and, well, tell me, Terry, list a few of them so I could remember them all.
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Terry Woodford: Kind of depends on how old you are as to whether you'll recognize them, but The Temptations, The Commodores, Supremes, Hank Williams Jr., Bender Lee, Steppenwolf, who else?
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Terry Woodford: Lots of folks.
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Genie Joseph: That's great.
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Genie Joseph: Now you're singing to the dogs.
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Terry Woodford: Well, actually, we're singing a couple of free songs on there.
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Terry Woodford: I never really mentioned that, but it is true.
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Terry Woodford: I used to sing background and sing on national commercials for Budweiser and American Dairy Association and things like that, which was a lot of fun because it was so easy to do and you made so much money doing it.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, that's great.
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Genie Joseph: Well, from rock and roll to rockabye.
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Terry Woodford: Actually, what happened, this music wasn't really intended for dogs.
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Terry Woodford: I was challenged by a daycare provider to come up with music for kids at naptime.
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Terry Woodford: And at that time in my life, it was June, it was October, and there's not much recording going on during them because all the artists are out doing concerts at Christmas at the area time.
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Terry Woodford: And so I thought, well, if I'm going to do that, there's no point reinventing the world.
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Terry Woodford: So I'll just use traditional nursery songs that have been around for two, 300 years.
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Terry Woodford: But I figured I'd better do something a little bit unique or all my peers are going to think I'm on the way out, you know?
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Terry Woodford: Right, right.
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Terry Woodford: So I decided to record the human heart from the chest and use it as the rhythm of these Rockabye Baby and Mary Had a Little Lamb in your typical Brahms lullaby songs and didn't realize it was going to be such a technical challenge because the heart doesn't beat in tempo and I forgot about that and it's at such low frequencies, you know, it's not, is it going to reproduce on these little cheap at the time cassette players?
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Terry Woodford: And so it became more of a technical challenge to get it in tempo and had to record it one beat at a time and then, you know, get it to where it could reproduce on these cheap players.
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Terry Woodford: And so after I had five songs, I had it tested in a newborn nursery at Helen Keller Hospital and they found that 94% of crying babies would stop crying in less than two minutes when you play it.
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Terry Woodford: And I thought, well, that's a they.
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Genie Joseph: That's pretty simple.
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Terry Woodford: It's got real advantage, you know, all babies cry in newborn nurseries.
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Terry Woodford: So I didn't think much about it until I got a call from the Cardiac Recovery Unit at the University of Alabama in Birmingham.
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Terry Woodford: And they'd gotten a copy and were playing it on babies after open heart surgery.
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Terry Woodford: And so they invited me to come down, which was about 120 miles away.
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Terry Woodford: I'm now in Muscle Shoals, Alabama.
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Terry Woodford: And I went down there thinking I was gonna meet them in an office, and they took me to the Cardiac Recovery Unit.
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Terry Woodford: I almost passed out.
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Terry Woodford: I was like, I saw these little babies, you know, cut from the neck to their belly button, the tube, mortars and beepers and buzzers.
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Terry Woodford: So I had to put my head down between my legs.
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Genie Joseph: Aw, yeah.
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Terry Woodford: The nurses were excited for me to see what was going on.
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Terry Woodford: And they had this one little baby and the heart rate was about 200 and wasn't breathing regularly.
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Terry Woodford: And they started playing the very first song, which was London Bridge.
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Terry Woodford: And the little baby's heart rate slowed down within 15 seconds and the breathing regulated.
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Terry Woodford: And quite frankly, it scared me because I didn't know anything about this.
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Terry Woodford: I'd never even been in the hospital as a patient.
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Terry Woodford: So anyway, they were pretty excited about it and asked me if I could make some more songs because the nurses were getting tired of hearing those same five songs.
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Terry Woodford: I was so worried that I'd fix it the way it could be played at a lower volume and it'd still be effective.
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Terry Woodford: So I got pretty excited about what was going on and built a special little speaker that you could put a bigger speaker in and you could play it at a lower volume.
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Terry Woodford: So anyway, I decided to get out of the music industry and spread the use of the music to neonatal intensive care units and pediatrics and MRI and so forth.
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Terry Woodford: And so I started doing television stories around the country and going into hospitals and let the nurses talk about it.
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Terry Woodford: And so it got to where it was used in over 8,000 hospitals and special care centers.
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Terry Woodford: The military was in the new parents support programs to help mommas get their baby to sleep and to prevent infant abuse because crying is the primary trigger for infant abuse.
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Terry Woodford: So that was one of my heart-wires.
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Terry Woodford: We were going to neonatal intensive care units and speaking to social workers and doctors and so forth.
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Terry Woodford: And so telling them why I thought it would work and why music can be as powerful as drugs.
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Terry Woodford: And I started getting emails and calls from people who said that their little baby, the CD that they, or cassette, whichever they happen to have, that they were using for their baby also calmed their dog.
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Terry Woodford: And I'm thinking, no, come on.
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Terry Woodford: Yeah, so I guess one reason I didn't believe it is I couldn't explain it.
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Terry Woodford: I mean, I can explain why I worked on babies so well.
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Terry Woodford: But I think the same music could work on dogs.
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Terry Woodford: I thought, well, these are probably people that are putting human characteristics on their dog.
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Terry Woodford: In fact, once I had dogs, I did the same thing.
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Terry Woodford: I got to where I taught to my dog because it always listened to me and never objected to what I said.
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Genie Joseph: Oh, of course, yes.
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Terry Woodford: But anyway, so I didn't do anything, and this is embarrassing, for 13 years.
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Terry Woodford: I kept getting the emails.
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Terry Woodford: And finally, then I had trainers calling and saying, you need to let other trainers know they had sick dogs and they were to keep the dog calm and on and on.
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Terry Woodford: So finally, I sent them out to the, I'd been in articles for the American Boarding Kennels Association.
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Terry Woodford: I said, I'm getting all these comments.
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Terry Woodford: Could you test it for me in your boarding kennels?
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Terry Woodford: And I checked the baby CDs and I put a paper label on it.
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Terry Woodford: And I called them canine lullabies, research done on human babies first, which I thought was kind of funny at the time.
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Terry Woodford: I wasn't being real serious.
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Terry Woodford: I sent them out and I got back over a hundred kennels, said that it reduced separation anxiety, reduced diarrhea in the kennels, reduced the barking.
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Terry Woodford: And I thought to myself, well, why would they not be telling the truth?
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Terry Woodford: There's nothing in it for them, you know?
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Terry Woodford: But still, it was so hard for me to believe in it.
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Terry Woodford: I'd spent many years trying to establish my credibility with the medical community, and now I'm going to go out and tell these same people that the music I've been supplying to their hospitals and so forth works on dogs.
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Terry Woodford: I mean, I was afraid to do it, but I decided I'm gonna do it anyway.
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Genie Joseph: Good.
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Genie Joseph: I'm glad you did.
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Terry Woodford: I did an article in the American Humane Society, did a big article, and we always have given them free to organizations like Humane Society, she used in their facilities if they asked for it.
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Terry Woodford: And so we added on, I guess, 500 to 750, you know, Humane Societies and rescues as a result of that article.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: But where I realized it was for real is I lived in Colorado Springs at the time.
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Terry Woodford: And there were 10 Humane Societies there.
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Terry Woodford: There was a no-kill shelter and one where they did kill dogs.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And I'd sent them out to the local animal clinics and those two shelters.
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Terry Woodford: And I got a call from the no-kill shelter, and they said, we'd like to talk to you about your K9 lullabies.
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Terry Woodford: And I thought, well, you know, she said, we were for Denver and some other locations.
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Terry Woodford: How much?
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Terry Woodford: And I said, well, I give them free, you know, Humane Society shelters to use in your facilities.
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Terry Woodford: How many do you want?
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Terry Woodford: She said, seven.
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Terry Woodford: I said, well, would you like them here to live in us?
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Terry Woodford: She called my eight hundred number.
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Terry Woodford: I had no idea we were only a mile and a half away.
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Terry Woodford: I had never been to a Humane Society.
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Terry Woodford: I must admit.
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Terry Woodford: Never, you know, had a reason to.
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Terry Woodford: And so I took them down there and went in, and I started to tell her about the story in the cardiac recovery unit.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, you know, she said, that's nice, but these are my babies.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, would you like to see it work?
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Terry Woodford: And I said, well, yeah.
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Terry Woodford: But yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And she's still in the afternoon, right?
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: Well, I go in there, I'm not in the Humane Society, and here I'm walking down the aisle, and all the dogs are jumping and barking, and I'm thinking, oh, it's a little unsettling.
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Genie Joseph: It is.
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Terry Woodford: It's the first time yet.
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Genie Joseph: For them and for us, yes.
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Terry Woodford: Right?
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Terry Woodford: She had her little boom box down in the corner, and she said, watch, and so the dogs are all barking and jumping.
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Terry Woodford: She turned on, here comes the first song.
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Terry Woodford: In 15 seconds, every one of those dogs lay down in their cages, and I just couldn't believe it.
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Terry Woodford: I said, well, let it keep playing.
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Terry Woodford: You know, it was London Bridge again, right?
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And I said, I walked down the aisle because I think they all started jumping again.
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Terry Woodford: Not one dog paid attention to me, so I knew it was working.
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Terry Woodford: I just didn't know how important it was in that situation because it helped make the dogs more adoptable and you know, and the thing, and kennel cough, and all the ways that it could really help those dogs.
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Terry Woodford: So now it's been used in probably 3,500 to 4,000 human societies, shelters.
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Terry Woodford: And I guess the other thing for me, you know, I gave up the music business to help the babies and now help the dogs.
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Terry Woodford: And I needed to come up with some kind of an explanation, I felt, you know, to explain why I would work on dogs.
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Terry Woodford: They also had used it a little at the zoo on chimpanzees, and it really worked well with chimpanzees that they were having a lot of problems with.
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Terry Woodford: So I can understand the chimpanzees better than I could the dogs, because they're more human-like.
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Terry Woodford: But so I started, you know, saying why would these work on dogs?
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Terry Woodford: And I found out the one thing that I was really intrigued by is how is it that a search dog could hear a human heartbeat from 75 feet away?
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Terry Woodford: Why is it that when the dog is in the living room with you and maybe your TV's go and people are talking, and all of a sudden the dog jumps up and the ears start moving, then they hear something that you and I can't hear at all?
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Terry Woodford: And how do you get their attention?
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Terry Woodford: So I knew about their sense of smell, you know, the bomb searching and all that, how they could discern a certain smell and not let smell anything else.
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Terry Woodford: You can try to disguise it all you want.
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Terry Woodford: If you're a drug dog, they're gonna catch you.
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Terry Woodford: You know what I mean?
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Terry Woodford: So unless they have the same thing with their hearing, it has to be because when you think about it, they hear it 50 times better than we do.
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Terry Woodford: They hear up to 50,000 cycles.
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Terry Woodford: We hear up to maybe 20,000 at the most.
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Terry Woodford: So they're hearing things above 20 that we don't even hear that's going on in the environment.
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Terry Woodford: So they've got to have a way to focus on what they wanna hear and habituate or block out from their conscious listening the other sounds.
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Terry Woodford: So finally, after I looked and looked and I couldn't find anything, and finally I found out that in the inner ear, they have something that allows them to focus on a sound and habituate to the others.
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Terry Woodford: And so that for me, I said, okay, now we know that they can choose to listen to what they wanna hear.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Terry Woodford: Why are they listening to the heartbeat lullabies?
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Terry Woodford: Well, they certainly know the owners or people's human heartbeat.
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Terry Woodford: They can hear it.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And it's familiar to them.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And I guess they also, probably, if you're a person who's afraid of the dog, they can tell you're RV-spinning.
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Terry Woodford: That you're not relaxed around them.
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Terry Woodford: But I thought, well, the other thing is, why would they retreat from something that's annoying like thunder or those kind of loud sounds?
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Terry Woodford: And so what I realized was that the basic principles of relaxation and learning are the same.
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Genie Joseph: Yes.
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Terry Woodford: They're the same for human babies, it's the same for other animals, repetition over and over and over.
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Genie Joseph: And the more, because I'm a dog trainer, the more relaxed the dog is, the more likely they're to learn and also to retain what they've learned.
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Genie Joseph: So relaxation and learning are our best friends.
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Terry Woodford: So I thought, well, in the case of the babies, these are familiar sounds, they're non-threatening, right?
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Terry Woodford: And so what's going on there is because of the simplicity and the repetition of the lullabies and the way they're recorded in the familiar human heartbeat, they're attracted to that, it's a safe place for them to retreat to when something in the environment is upsetting them.
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Terry Woodford: The one thing that I did have a hard time with understanding, I'm not sure I even do now, because this is just my theory, you got to be a dog to know really what's going on, but on these thunder phobia things, of course, they can hear so much better, but they hear the thunderstorm coming way before we do, right?
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Terry Woodford: And so I tell people, start planning it before you know you're going to have a thunderstorm, start planning it ahead of time.
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Terry Woodford: And quite frankly, I'm always a bit upset when you hear me be loud and clap, you know, the lightning doesn't bother me near as bad as the thunder coming afterwards.
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Terry Woodford: And so how can they focus on something and habituate to that?
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Terry Woodford: How could they block that out of their conscious listening?
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Terry Woodford: I'm not really sure other than we had that ability to some degree.
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Terry Woodford: And I'll tell you why I learned that.
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Terry Woodford: When I was in college, I got a master's degree in textual engineering.
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Terry Woodford: I want to go into all that.
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Terry Woodford: But I was exposed to textual mills and learning rooms.
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Terry Woodford: And in the learning rooms, if you measured the sound level in those learning rooms, it was 95 decibels.
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Terry Woodford: It was so loud that you and I could be three feet apart and yell at each other and not really hear each other.
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Terry Woodford: And yet, the people that worked there could hear music.
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Terry Woodford: I don't know if you remember music, but it was like element.
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Terry Woodford: And they could focus on that and obituate to that little sound.
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Terry Woodford: Now, if humans had that ability, and the dogs are so much better at it, I think that they could actually retreat so much from even the startle sounds of the thunder that they don't get.
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Terry Woodford: I'm sure they're not excited about it.
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Terry Woodford: Right.
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Genie Joseph: They don't love it.
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Terry Woodford: They don't look as easy like some dogs do.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Well, I think that that's true, because dogs actually have an on and off switch.
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Genie Joseph: So if they are in the stress response, they can't relax until they get out of the stress response.
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Genie Joseph: If they're in the relaxed response, they're not as likely to be as severely triggered by the stressor.
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Genie Joseph: So that quality of, if you get them into relaxation, then they're going to have more resilience ability to manage stressors.
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Genie Joseph: It doesn't mean it's going to be zero, but yeah, so that's great.
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Genie Joseph: Well, we're going to take a short little break, and when we come back, maybe you can tell us some stories that you've heard from some of the people and working with their dogs with the canine lullabies.
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Genie Joseph: We'll be back in a moment.
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Genie Joseph: Welcome back to The Human-Animal Connection, where we're speaking with Terry Woodford, and he is the creator of canine lullabies.
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Genie Joseph: And this is the use of the human heartbeat with lullabies, and specially produced in a way that is soothing for both babies, people, and now we find out, doggies.
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Genie Joseph: And other animals, too.
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Terry Woodford: That's true.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: So tell us some of the stories of people who have been working with your canine lullabies.
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Terry Woodford: Well, I think one of the most heartwarming stories for me was, I got an email from some kids in Idaho, and what they said was that they had this little dog, and the little dog was supposedly in a coma, and they had taken it to the vet, and the vet says, you know, you would take your dog home because your dog's not going to live, basically.
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Terry Woodford: And these are kids that are like 11 and, well, something like that.
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Terry Woodford: So one of the kids said, and we remembered what they called the baby-go-to-sleep CD.
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Terry Woodford: So we decided we would play the baby-go-to-sleep CD around the clock for our little dog.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, so we played it for two days non-stop, we put it on CD players, you could put them on repeat and they just continued to play.
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Terry Woodford: And for two days, all of a sudden, the little dog jumps up out of the coma.
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Terry Woodford: And they're telling me this story and I'm thinking, I don't know what to say, I think we've accepted movie enough to think that these are kids that thought of doing that because they had gone to that same CD when they were children.
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Terry Woodford: And so to me, that was cool.
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Terry Woodford: The other one was, and this was one that was really fun for me.
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Terry Woodford: I tried to get one of the big dog chains, PetSmart, to carry the CDs, right?
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Terry Woodford: And so they just almost laughed at me, they just, we're not going to do this.
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Terry Woodford: I couldn't even present it to my boss, this woman said.
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Terry Woodford: Now, here was the irony.
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Terry Woodford: In New Jersey, they had these trucks of PetSmart sponsors that transport dogs from one place to another.
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Terry Woodford: Because in the North and East, they have a shortage of rescue dogs.
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Terry Woodford: In the South and some other places, they have a community.
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Terry Woodford: And they were using the CD and had a video on the dogs to keep those dogs calm while they were transporting them.
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Terry Woodford: And they were really excited about it.
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Terry Woodford: And so, they were using it to calm the dogs as they transported them, which a lot of times, they really get upset and it's really tough.
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Terry Woodford: So, that was a fun story.
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Terry Woodford: But I get stories all the time about dogs that were hypersensitive, hyperactive, and they've been able to keep the dogs calm.
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Terry Woodford: And I think, much like the babies, the more you play it, the quicker they respond to it.
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Terry Woodford: And I tell people, you really don't need to have all 18 songs.
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Terry Woodford: I mean, probably one would work if you just played it over and over.
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Terry Woodford: I don't know.
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Terry Woodford: But what I found out was most people will order them only as 18 songs because they don't want to hear one song over and over.
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Terry Woodford: It's not the dog that cares.
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Terry Woodford: And some people will tell me that their dog has a favorite song.
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Terry Woodford: I don't know if that's really true or not.
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Terry Woodford: But anyway, so it's been fun.
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Terry Woodford: The other thing that happened to me recently that was pretty exciting is they did a research project.
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Terry Woodford: Well, I should tell you real quick what happened.
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Terry Woodford: In the Cardiac Recovery Unit, they were using it on the babies and the kids, right?
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Terry Woodford: And they said that it was making the nurses tired.
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Terry Woodford: That's why they wanted to play to the lower volume.
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Terry Woodford: And I'm thinking they're just putting me on, you know?
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Terry Woodford: But anyway, I was on a television talk show down in Tampa, Florida.
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Terry Woodford: And this woman called said she was looking to do research on using an alternative to physical restraints and sedatives in nursing homes.
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Terry Woodford: And I'm thinking, I didn't know they did that.
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Terry Woodford: They did back then for sure.
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Terry Woodford: So I said, I'll send you the CDs and players, whatever you need.
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Terry Woodford: In the meantime, I got a call from the Wilson Medical Center in Cleveland, Ohio, and they had heard about the music in pediatrics, and they wanted to try to have a geriatric unit.
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Terry Woodford: And I said, fine, I didn't know what a geriatric unit was, really.
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Terry Woodford: So I started thinking about it.
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Terry Woodford: I said, well, why not make music especially for adults?
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Terry Woodford: And I thought, well, I'll take songs from when they were teenagers, right?
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Terry Woodford: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: You know, the Lars theme, Scarlet Ribbons, Amazing Grace, you know, those.
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Terry Woodford: But I won't hurt many singers, but I'll use the same part beat.
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Terry Woodford: And by this time, I really knew how to do it quicker, you know?
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Terry Woodford: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And so I called the Cardiac Recovery Unit and I said, how about, you know, some music for your adults after open-heart surgery?
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Terry Woodford: They said, well, you know, we'll give it a try.
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Terry Woodford: We'll ask the surgeon, see if it's okay.
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Terry Woodford: Well, so I sat down, I had six songs, and I was a little late on the University of South Florida, which is where they were doing the other research, but I'd sent it to Ohio and sent it to UAB in Birmingham.
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Terry Woodford: Three months passed, I don't hear anything, and I'm thinking, you know, come on, how could this miss?
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Terry Woodford: You know, it's anything is recorded the same, the same structure, etc.
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Terry Woodford: Just different songs and those singers.
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Terry Woodford: So I called the Cardiac Recovery Unit and had a nurse answer, says, well, she said, I'm sorry, but we can't use the version you made for adults.
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Terry Woodford: And I'm thinking, they must have done something wrong.
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Terry Woodford: Or maybe the surgeons wouldn't let them, you know, so what's the problem?
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Terry Woodford: She said, well, she said, you spend a lot of time here, as you know, we bring the patients in right after the surgery, and they're laying there on the bed.
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Terry Woodford: And a lot of times, the anesthetic will wear off before the paralyzation does.
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Terry Woodford: And so we got the boombox there, playing the music, and the person can see me, and they can hear, but they can't feel anything.
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Terry Woodford: They're numb, and they can't move.
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Terry Woodford: And on comes Amazing Grace.
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Terry Woodford: She said, their heart rate goes up, they think they're dying, it doesn't look like heaven.
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Terry Woodford: You know, so we can't play that.
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Terry Woodford: Now, I was embarrassed, I didn't even think of that.
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Terry Woodford: But I thought, well, I'll call the cardiac, I'll call the geriatric unit nurse in Ohio, I can't get up that easy.
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Terry Woodford: So I get her on the phone, she said, I'm sorry, but we can't use your adult music.
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Terry Woodford: And I said, oh, it's Amazing Grace, right?
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Terry Woodford: She said, no, the problem is Moon River.
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Terry Woodford: And I said, Moon River, what's wrong with that?
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Terry Woodford: She said, well, for some, she said, you ever listen to an oldie station?
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Terry Woodford: And I said, yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, I said, yeah, that's usually where I hear most of my songs now.
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Terry Woodford: She said, well, you ever hear that song?
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Terry Woodford: You remember the first time you heard it, who you're with, you can only live that experience.
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Terry Woodford: And I said, yeah.
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Terry Woodford: She said, well, you don't know why these people are here, Dee.
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Terry Woodford: And I said, well, no, not really.
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Terry Woodford: She said, we're a referral hospital for about a 200 mile radius of nursing homes.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, the people that we get here are usually people that did not get visitors.
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Terry Woodford: And I'm thinking, what does that mean?
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Terry Woodford: You know, she said, if you don't get visitors, you don't get as good a care.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, so always make sure that if you ever put the nursing home to your kids to make surprise visits.
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Terry Woodford: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And she said, so when they listen to the baby one, which they're listening to, they flash back to a time when they were being calmed by their mom or they're being shown love, affection, made it feel safe and secure, or they were calming their grandkids and so forth.
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Terry Woodford: So one thing that I've noticed about your dogs, if you're upset, if you're anxious, they will be too.
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Terry Woodford: I think they'll feed off your emotions and off your food.
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Terry Woodford: So in fact, the adults and the dogs and the babies, it puts me on three fronts, and I'm too old and too tired to work at all.
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Terry Woodford: But it's really been a blessing for me because being in the music business is compared to what I do is, music business is full of people that are motivated by fame, money, and ego.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: Yeah.
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Terry Woodford: And the people that I work with, people that work in boarding kennels and shelters and hospitals, these are compassionate, caring people.
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Terry Woodford: And we've come up with every use for this music.
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Terry Woodford: I didn't come up with any of the uses for it, and I've never ceased to be surprised by all the good stories I get to hear.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Well, before we found out about you, we were singing lullabies to our therapy dogs and having our high school students sing to the dogs and using their names.
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Terry Woodford: Right.
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Genie Joseph: And it calmed the dogs and the person singing.
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Genie Joseph: It calmed the room.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: So it's just-
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Terry Woodford: Yeah, I noticed, I watched that video and some of the songs you were singing were those old traditional nursery songs.
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Terry Woodford: That's right.
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Genie Joseph: And yeah, Brahms' Lullaby would just, you know-
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, it's really good.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, it's, you know, and just making up their own words and putting the dog's name in as often as possible on it, you know, because the dog is trained to respond to their name, so it gets their attention.
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Genie Joseph: And yeah, so it's just beautiful work.
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Genie Joseph: I'm so happy that you've done this work and that you were able to do so much good for so many babies and heart patients and all like that.
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Genie Joseph: So what's, do you have anything you want to do next that you haven't gotten to do?
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Terry Woodford: I've done some things.
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Terry Woodford: One thing that I always like to bring to people's attention with people I know that are big classical music enthusiasts don't like it, that's probably the worst music you could play for a dog or for a baby because it's mathematically too sophisticated and too complicated, so it's annoying to them.
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Terry Woodford: It's alien, you know.
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Terry Woodford: I did a couple of songs, one for people who are addicted to alcohol and addicted to drugs, the other one, the idea is to play this song when you're feeling the urge to go back to your hammock.
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Terry Woodford: And I've had some success with it, it's difficult to spread the word about it.
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Terry Woodford: But I did that, that was a fun project.
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Terry Woodford: I also did a project where I did the Marines Hymn, and I did it because of the people that had died in Afghanistan.
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Terry Woodford: And I did it also because you never get a very good version of it, and I also remember these women doing the whole verse by themselves because you never hear women singing it, and women are in wings just like them in.
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Genie Joseph: Right, right.
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Terry Woodford: I did that project, put that up on YouTube.
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Terry Woodford: So it's like the things that I get involved with now are things that can make a difference, you know?
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Genie Joseph: Yep.
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Terry Woodford: As you get older, like I am, things don't mean so much to you, material stuff.
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Genie Joseph: Right.
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Terry Woodford: And it's really what more, how can you make life better for other people?
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Terry Woodford: So that's what I get off on.
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Genie Joseph: That's wonderful.
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Terry Woodford: That's what I do.
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Genie Joseph: Well, how can people find you?
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Genie Joseph: Where do they go to get hold of K9 Lullabies?
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Terry Woodford: So k9lullabies.com is the website.
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Terry Woodford: You can see news stories on the baby site, which is heartbeatlullaby.com from the old news stories where they were using cassettes, and you'll see babies calm in five seconds.
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Terry Woodford: And that's spelled out, C-A-N-I-N-E-L-U-L-L-A-B-I-E-S.
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Terry Woodford: I'll tell you what's funny.
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Terry Woodford: I can't resist.
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Terry Woodford: I've actually had people say, where can I get these K9 Lullabies?
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Terry Woodford: I probably should have never used the plural.
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Terry Woodford: People don't know whether it's I-S or Y-S.
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Terry Woodford: So you'll run into some pretty funny stuff sometimes.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Well, just the primacy of the human heartbeats, where we all started, and it's where we love to return.
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Genie Joseph: So it's a wonderful-
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Terry Woodford: And sound is the last thing that goes, and the first thing that we get.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, they say the babies, if the parents sing to the baby when they're still in the mother's belly, that they will recognize the father's voice if he sang to the baby or the mother's voice.
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Terry Woodford: You're exactly right.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, so yeah.
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Genie Joseph: Well, the power of sound for healing.
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Genie Joseph: I love it.
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Genie Joseph: Thank you, Terry Woodford, so much for the work that you've done.
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Genie Joseph: Thank you.
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Genie Joseph: We'll have to talk with you again soon.
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