Talking to Horses
Have you ever wondered what horses are feeling or thinking? Energy Healer and Animal Communicator, Adele Kristiansson works with world-championship horses to help understand what they need and why they are behaving the way they are. Working in partnership with trainers and owners, she has received and given life-saving insights “straight from the horse’s mouth.” Discover how horses communicate telepathically with each other, and over great distances. And how one horse will help reveal what another horse needs to thrive. When we work in partnership with horses, and listen to what they have to say, everything good happens.
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BIO:
My name is Adele Kristiansson, and Ripple Effect Healing is my personal synthesis of energy healing and affirmative prayer modalities that integrate properties of Universal Law with practical quantum physics. In Ripple Effect Healing, I apply contact and intention to human, animal and Universal consciousness to open gateways of possibility and create pathways for healing, growth and positive outcome.
Healings and telepathic animal communication can profoundly affect animals and dramatically improve relationships with their people. I help you understand your animal and address issues that may contribute to stress and behavioral problems. Healings relieve pain from trauma and disease, help calm animals before, during and after surgery and remove anesthesia and toxic medicines from their energy field. Healings provide comfort and palliative care to support your animal’s release and passage from this life.
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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.
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Genie Joseph: Well, hello, everyone.
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Genie Joseph: So glad you tuned in to The Human-Animal Connection Show because I'm really excited to speak with Adele Kristiansson.
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Genie Joseph: She is an energy healer.
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Genie Joseph: She's an animal communicator.
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Genie Joseph: She works with champion horses.
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Genie Joseph: And I'm so excited because we're really going to delve into what the horses have to say about all that's going on in their lives and how we can work as partners.
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Genie Joseph: And in our next show we do together, we're actually going to work with a trainer that Adele works with and a competitor who does high level world class competitive horse jumping and all this good stuff.
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Genie Joseph: And we will learn how they work together with the horse to find out what the horse's opinion is.
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Genie Joseph: And that's of course very important to us in The Human-Animal Connection that we consider the horse's opinion and all animals' opinions whenever possible, whenever we're doing things that affect their lives.
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Genie Joseph: So Adele, thank you for being here and welcome to the show.
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Adele Kristiansson: Well, thank you so much, Genie, for inviting me.
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Adele Kristiansson: I'm happy to be here.
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Genie Joseph: Great.
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Genie Joseph: So first, let's start out with how do you connect with horses?
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Genie Joseph: So there are some people that are completely on board with that, and they talk to their horses, and they hear their horses, and other people is like, what?
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Genie Joseph: What do you mean you can talk to horses?
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Genie Joseph: So how would you kind of explain your process?
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Adele Kristiansson: I think everybody has this capacity, and it's a question of flexing the muscle, so to speak.
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Adele Kristiansson: My body and my sensitivities are exquisite diagnostic sensing devices.
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Adele Kristiansson: And basically, I do the same thing in telepathic communication that I do as a medium.
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Adele Kristiansson: I open my central nervous system to signal, and telepathy is about signal.
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Adele Kristiansson: So we listen to the radio, we trust electricity.
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Adele Kristiansson: There's a lot of signal that humans take for granted in our lives, and the fact is, we don't need machines to convey it for us.
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Adele Kristiansson: We can do it ourselves, and this is how the ancient humans did it.
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Genie Joseph: So for you, signal is kind of like the information transfer wave or something?
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Genie Joseph: This is like you're tuning into it, or have I not said that correctly?
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Adele Kristiansson: You're on it.
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Adele Kristiansson: So as a remote viewer, when I was studying with the heads of the Stanford Research Institute, we open our right brain, right?
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Adele Kristiansson: The right hemisphere is a receptor brain, and we relax our awareness.
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Adele Kristiansson: As a healer, we might call this feeling out to higher levels of the field, the energy field, and then I just start to notice what arrives.
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Adele Kristiansson: Now, if I have a client, I would use that course as a target, and I would set my intention to connect.
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Adele Kristiansson: But when I'm working with horses and other animals, I'm going to expand my heart field.
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Adele Kristiansson: Many people don't know that your heart has more neurons in it than has your brain.
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Adele Kristiansson: And that's why if we want to know something, we know it by heart.
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Adele Kristiansson: If we want to feel somebody, we reach out with our heart.
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Adele Kristiansson: So I expand my heart field in a 360-degree radius, and I expand it until I find myself touching my target.
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Adele Kristiansson: And then I start to notice what I notice.
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Genie Joseph: I just want to clarify for the audience, when she says target, she doesn't mean as an end for a bullet.
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Genie Joseph: She means the focus of her intention.
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Genie Joseph: So just to translate that, because I know the remote viewing word is target, but for people listening for the first time to this information, target would be the person that she's intending to communicate with.
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Genie Joseph: Go ahead.
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Adele Kristiansson: Thank you for clarifying that.
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Adele Kristiansson: So say I want to work with a horse named Yorke or Dennis.
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Adele Kristiansson: I would set my intention to open my awareness, and then I would soften my awareness, I get still, and then I allow information that's there to arrive.
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Adele Kristiansson: Now we can feel the information arrive through our senses, and this happens energetically, and it arrives through vortices known as chakras, through which metabolize energy, so that if I'm grounded in my root chakra, I might sense kinesthetically what's happening to Dennis, and I will feel it in my body.
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Adele Kristiansson: I'll feel it physically.
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Adele Kristiansson: If I'm sensing through my third chakra, I will get an intuitive hit.
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Adele Kristiansson: If I go to a part of his body, and I suddenly realize his stomach is angry or frustrated, I realize I'm sensing the emotions through my second chakra.
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Adele Kristiansson: If I'm sensing in and I get a movie, he sends me pictures, that's working with my sixth chakra, which is my clairvoyance.
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Adele Kristiansson: If I get a direct thought that I know was not mine, I know that I'm open at my crown, and I'm sensing through the seventh chakra.
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Adele Kristiansson: So we're kind of pinging the keys here like a piano, double checking one data hit against another with one chakra and another to see, does what I feel mesh with what I observe, and does that fit with what I'm knowing?
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Adele Kristiansson: And I check all of that, and then these come in as fractal pieces of information, which then my client helps me put together.
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Genie Joseph: Okay, good.
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Genie Joseph: So I know some of our listeners have asked, they want to learn animal communication, and they're not sure how to tell the difference between, let's say, a feeling in your stomach, like how can you tell the difference?
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Genie Joseph: How do you know that it's Dennis the Horse who's having anger or frustration in his stomach versus you being hungry?
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Genie Joseph: How can you feel the difference?
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Adele Kristiansson: This is a great question, and it's one question that as we're learning is the big question.
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Adele Kristiansson: And it's also followed up with, am I making this up?
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Adele Kristiansson: So the first thing that we were taught as healers was consider the onset of this feeling you have.
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Adele Kristiansson: So if I'm walking into a room that has a meeting in it and suddenly I'm feeling very angry, the first thing I'm going to ask myself is, is this feeling mine or is it someone else's?
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Adele Kristiansson: Because you may be aware that the chakras work to create an energetic bubble around us or an energy field.
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Adele Kristiansson: It's known as the aura.
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Adele Kristiansson: Each person has one.
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Adele Kristiansson: Each group has one.
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Adele Kristiansson: Each flock of birds has one.
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Adele Kristiansson: Each herd of horses has one.
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Adele Kristiansson: And Lynn McTaggart writes about this in The Field.
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Adele Kristiansson: So when we come up with an emotion and we're wondering if it's ours, the first question we want to ask is, is this mine?
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Adele Kristiansson: Or does this belong to the field?
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Adele Kristiansson: And we can then open ourselves, say my gut, and scan the group.
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Adele Kristiansson: And suddenly my gut is going to connect with one person.
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Adele Kristiansson: And I know, wait a minute, this is the source of that anger.
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Adele Kristiansson: And then I open my other senses and, oh, wow, I can see a cloud of frustration over that person.
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Adele Kristiansson: And I open my senses further and feel into something that might have happened to them earlier in the day to get them so upset.
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Genie Joseph: Yes, excellent.
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Genie Joseph: So you become, as you've practiced, and you're very well practiced, you're very proficient, you're a professional, you make a living at this, you have come to tell, be able to distinguish between a sensation that you're feeling in your body, but one that has originated in your own experience, versus one that you have connected to in the field that may not be your own.
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Genie Joseph: And I guess this takes quite a bit of training and practice to get to the point where you can refine and say very clearly, oh, okay, I wasn't feeling angry when I walked into this room.
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Genie Joseph: You know, now I'm feeling angry being in this room.
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Genie Joseph: I wonder who might be angry here.
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Genie Joseph: You know, that kind of willingness to both explore, but also to be kind of diligent about what's really your own or generated from within versus what has come to you from perhaps another source.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, great.
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Genie Joseph: Well, that's wonderful information.
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Genie Joseph: So let's talk a little bit, because I know you work with trainers.
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Genie Joseph: These are people who are winning championships worldwide, and they hire you to find out what's going on with their horses, even though they have quite a bit of understanding about their horses on a certain level.
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Genie Joseph: But there's sometimes a situation that they need help with.
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Genie Joseph: And can you give us maybe a story of how a trainer might have asked you a question and how you work with them to help understand what was going on with the horse?
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Adele Kristiansson: Sure.
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Adele Kristiansson: We have lots of examples of that.
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Adele Kristiansson: So in terms of working with clients as a medium and a conduit, a telepathic conduit, my goal is to stay in the flow.
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Adele Kristiansson: My goal is to establish connection, and it's really a three-way or multiple-way connection.
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Adele Kristiansson: I'm connecting the individual with the horse and sometimes with other horses because, as with people, sometimes issues can be subconscious, and the horse might not be able to express it consciously, but boy, the horse's friends know exactly what's going down and they can say exactly what's happening.
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Adele Kristiansson: So when I'm working with, say, an idiomatic issue...
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Genie Joseph: And what does idiomatic mean?
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Adele Kristiansson: So a lot of times people will come to me when they don't know who else to go to, and they'll say, well, the vet doesn't understand this, and I have a behavioral issue, and I want to get to the bottom of it, and I do have a great example.
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Adele Kristiansson: I was working once with an eventer, so this would be a horse who's running field events, which include high speed as well as jumping, and the rider was feeling as if something was wrong.
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Adele Kristiansson: His horse didn't love what they were doing, and he was afraid that the horse was developing a behavioral issue, and he wanted to get down to the bottom of it.
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Adele Kristiansson: And I started to, as I said, kinesthetically sense in, so that's like opening my body to feel, what is this horse feeling in his body?
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Adele Kristiansson: This was a gelding.
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Adele Kristiansson: And immediately I could feel a momentary fugue state where suddenly he's not sure where he is and how he got there, and that he's working very, very hard to keep his riders safe.
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Adele Kristiansson: And on top of that, as I, so you allow that information to sense in, and then you start to assess a little more deeply, okay, are you feeling a discomfort in your body?
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Adele Kristiansson: And actually, I got literally a jarring sensation in my head.
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Adele Kristiansson: And I slowed myself down further to explore, did you get hurt?
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Adele Kristiansson: And he showed me an image of him in a paddock, and he actually had sustained a blood trauma blow to the head.
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Adele Kristiansson: As I deepened, so he shows me this image.
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Adele Kristiansson: So I'm seeing the movie from his point of view, and he's hitting his head.
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Adele Kristiansson: I'm feeling the impact below the left eye socket, so I'm feeling like there may be minor fractures along that zygoma.
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Adele Kristiansson: And then I go into the cranium, and I'm feeling an elasticized movement of the brain stem as it is pulled and stretched forward and then pulled and released backward.
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Adele Kristiansson: Now, as an EMT, I associate this with the coup-contre-coup blow to the head.
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Adele Kristiansson: And this is what the horse is showing me.
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Genie Joseph: Is that kind of like whiplash?
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Adele Kristiansson: It is whiplash.
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Adele Kristiansson: So if you are rear-ended in a car, so you get hit behind, your body, the force of the impact is going to throw your body forward, and then it's going to pull your body back, which is why people in a motor vehicle accident, right, and VA also can sustain internal head injuries that might rely what we observe as bruising from the seat belts.
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Adele Kristiansson: And so what happens is the front of the brain hits the skull, and the frontal cortex gets injured, but also the brain stem gets a little stretched.
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Adele Kristiansson: And in my experience with this horse, he's showing me that's what happened, and consequently he's feeling very unsteady on his feet.
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Adele Kristiansson: So I relay this to his rider, but now as a telepathic animal communicator, I am the first to tell my clients, I'm not licensed to diagnose.
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Adele Kristiansson: I must stay within the scope of my own practice.
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Adele Kristiansson: Here go, present this information to the other members of your veterinarian team as a high index of suspicion.
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Adele Kristiansson: In fact, he took the horse to get an MRI, and that's exactly what they found.
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Genie Joseph: So he didn't know that this horse had this head injury?
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Genie Joseph: He was unaware of it until you brought it up?
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Adele Kristiansson: Well, he thought it might have been a possibility.
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Adele Kristiansson: And this is really important because working with trainers is a contact sport.
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Adele Kristiansson: It's a team sport.
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Adele Kristiansson: A lot of times, people will come to me and they don't know, but when I mention an event, and did he ever hurt his head?
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Adele Kristiansson: Oh, yeah, he was out in the paddock, and he was romping around, and yeah, I think he did.
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Adele Kristiansson: He might have.
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Adele Kristiansson: We wondered about it.
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Adele Kristiansson: One day we came in and he seemed different.
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Adele Kristiansson: So in a good partnership, I will stay in the right brain, and the person I'm reading for is going to be the frontal cortex.
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Adele Kristiansson: They're going to make sense of it, because I don't want to pop out of signal.
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Genie Joseph: Exactly.
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Genie Joseph: So you're staying in the state of really being connected with this horse and offering up that information, and they can go, Oh, yeah, you know, we were wondering about that.
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Genie Joseph: And then they can get the verification through medical testing and so on.
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Genie Joseph: So what happened?
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Genie Joseph: We're going to take a short little break.
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Genie Joseph: But when we come back, I want you to tell me what happened as a result of this reading.
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Genie Joseph: We'll be right back in just a moment.
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Genie Joseph: Don't go anywhere.
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Genie Joseph: Welcome back to The Human-Animal Connection podcast.
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Genie Joseph: I'm here, Jeanne Joseph, with Adele Kristiansson, an energy healer and telepathic interspecies communicator.
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Genie Joseph: And we're hearing this wonderful story about a trainer who was concerned that his horse was having a behavioral issue that was gonna create problems in continuing to compete and in continuing to have good riding experiences.
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Genie Joseph: Adele connected with this horse.
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Genie Joseph: The horse told them her about an injury, which he later confirmed with MRIs of the horse.
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Genie Joseph: So what happened?
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Genie Joseph: How did that, you know, like he was worried, oh, I gotta get rid of this horse because he's not jumping anymore.
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Genie Joseph: What happened between them after you explained this?
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Adele Kristiansson: Well, the trainer was able to advance care and apply the better care.
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Adele Kristiansson: So he put the horse on, his horse on rest, but most importantly recognized that this was not a behavioral issue or shirking duty or a lapse in work ethic, that it was in fact, and I could feel how hard this horse was struggling to keep his rider safe.
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Adele Kristiansson: That's something I have noticed about the nature of horses that they are very, very concerned with their own safety and the safety of their riders and their herd.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah, well, this is so important because I know there are a lot of situations where horses get sold off or put out to pasture or something because there's a so-called behavior issue and it really is pain.
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Genie Joseph: And it is something that the vet hasn't noticed because the horse is not necessarily obviously showing it.
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Genie Joseph: I mean, you have to be really paying attention to notice that there is some kind of a change, but that it might not be a behavioral issue.
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Genie Joseph: It might be physical.
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Genie Joseph: So that's really wonderful that you're able to help people do that.
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Genie Joseph: I want to talk a little bit about how you have come to understand the true nature of horses from the work that you've been doing communicating with so many horses over the years.
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Adele Kristiansson: Horses are exceptionally telepathic.
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Adele Kristiansson: Because they are herd animals and prey animals, they have an amazing ability to collaborate telepathically.
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Adele Kristiansson: And I have come to revere equine wisdom.
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Adele Kristiansson: The first wild Mustang, her name is Phoenix, with whom I ever communicated, immediately started to tell me about her pride in her heritage.
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Adele Kristiansson: And she said, she showed me the plains out west, and she showed me herself galloping in a herd of 40 horses.
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Adele Kristiansson: They were being hunted by helicopter, by people who wanted to kill them and use them for dog food.
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Adele Kristiansson: And the way she phrased it was, they were sweeping us up from the plain like so much garbage to be disposed of.
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Adele Kristiansson: And she said, and she was actually rescued by my client from a kill sanctuary.
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Adele Kristiansson: And she's living a wonderful life now, but she wanted me to understand the importance of wild horses to the world.
00:20:15.643 --> 00:20:27.443
Adele Kristiansson: She said, our hoofbeats caress the earth, and we hear her, and we contribute our hoofbeat to her own drum roll.
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Adele Kristiansson: We carry an ancient wisdom that's wild.
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Adele Kristiansson: And her view was that the use of purebred horses was actually breeding, man is breeding the wildness out of nature.
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Adele Kristiansson: And she feels that it's very important for us to be able to not go deaf to the wild tones of nature which she represents.
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Genie Joseph: Wow.
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Genie Joseph: Yeah.
00:20:58.363 --> 00:20:59.983
Genie Joseph: That's just absolutely beautiful.
00:21:00.123 --> 00:21:08.083
Genie Joseph: I mean, the wild horses are really carrying the spirit of the nation, you know, the country, and we are not doing good by them.
00:21:08.103 --> 00:21:10.423
Genie Joseph: So we definitely have to do better.
00:21:11.003 --> 00:21:12.103
Genie Joseph: We definitely have to do better.
00:21:12.503 --> 00:21:24.723
Genie Joseph: And have you seen, like in your work with healing or communication that one horse, oh, you've mentioned that a little bit earlier that sometimes one horse will not know what's bothering them, but their friend in the herd will explain.
00:21:24.743 --> 00:21:28.103
Genie Joseph: Can you tell us a story about that where one horse helped you understand what was going on?
00:21:28.503 --> 00:21:30.163
Adele Kristiansson: I have lots of stories.
00:21:31.583 --> 00:21:42.423
Adele Kristiansson: So horses not only collaborate with one another, but they collaborate with their people, and they are excellent business partners as well.
00:21:42.863 --> 00:21:53.323
Adele Kristiansson: My client, Martha, has a gelding Yorka, and Yorka will tell her when she's, and she always consults him for business questions.
00:21:53.423 --> 00:21:58.923
Adele Kristiansson: And he'll say, when you don't know what to do, do nothing, and it will be made clear.
00:22:00.823 --> 00:22:08.723
Adele Kristiansson: He also has a really good understanding of the interrelational dynamics among people.
00:22:09.423 --> 00:22:17.803
Adele Kristiansson: And at one point, she was balancing the horses she was working with, with the clients.
00:22:18.603 --> 00:22:31.363
Adele Kristiansson: And he recognized that one client needed to be led by her more, encouraged her to take a leadership role with this client.
00:22:32.263 --> 00:22:40.203
Adele Kristiansson: And he encouraged her to also, make different, very specific decisions in her business.
00:22:40.703 --> 00:22:50.643
Adele Kristiansson: At one point, he told us, this farrier is no good, and the next one you're going to be working with will be coming from the West.
00:22:50.743 --> 00:22:58.823
Adele Kristiansson: And he actually foresaw this farrier, who did come from the West, who is now working with her.
00:22:59.603 --> 00:23:19.543
Adele Kristiansson: Another horse in this cohort, Kilimanjaro, was weighing the business of her business and decided that he should volunteer to work with a specific client whose needs best met his abilities.
00:23:20.843 --> 00:23:44.503
Adele Kristiansson: He was graduating from being a top competitor into an older horse, and he recognized that as his abilities were starting to decline, his performance level, that he would actually be better suited for her to pair with a rider who was suited to his capacity.
00:23:44.523 --> 00:23:49.603
Adele Kristiansson: So the horses are able to act as agents of the business.
00:23:49.623 --> 00:23:57.223
Adele Kristiansson: They're able to identify where they are best needed from a business perspective.
00:23:57.423 --> 00:23:58.463
Genie Joseph: Yes, that's wonderful.
00:23:58.883 --> 00:24:05.783
Genie Joseph: I know you told me one story about a client was asking you about a vet, and you talked to three horses and got three opinions.
00:24:05.803 --> 00:24:06.983
Genie Joseph: Can you tell that story?
00:24:07.623 --> 00:24:09.983
Adele Kristiansson: Well, actually, that was about a trainer.
00:24:10.003 --> 00:24:10.963
Genie Joseph: Oh, a trainer.
00:24:11.343 --> 00:24:20.863
Adele Kristiansson: I was very apprehensive because this is affecting somebody's livelihood, and I want to not be judgmental.
00:24:20.923 --> 00:24:25.743
Adele Kristiansson: I want to be clear that I am just in the flow of what they are saying.
00:24:26.083 --> 00:24:41.223
Adele Kristiansson: But what was very interesting is all three horses agreed on how this trainer came across, and the trainer had a very authoritative, hardline demeanor.
00:24:42.203 --> 00:24:59.823
Adele Kristiansson: One horse called the trainer a Prussian, and while one horse in this group was feeling overwhelmed and not able to express himself, there was an older mayor in the group who said, basically, bring it on, buddy.
00:24:59.843 --> 00:25:05.183
Adele Kristiansson: I know you're a big name brand, and I'm going to ride you to the finish line.
00:25:05.403 --> 00:25:07.363
Adele Kristiansson: That's an expression.
00:25:07.403 --> 00:25:09.563
Adele Kristiansson: They're actually hunter jumpers.
00:25:09.963 --> 00:25:16.503
Adele Kristiansson: But her point was, I can ride his branding just like he's going to ride me.
00:25:16.523 --> 00:25:20.203
Adele Kristiansson: And her perspective was, hey, riders come and go.
00:25:20.223 --> 00:25:25.143
Adele Kristiansson: I'm not going to get too caught up in you, but I'll use you just like you're using me.
00:25:26.963 --> 00:25:28.223
Adele Kristiansson: For my performance.
00:25:28.403 --> 00:25:31.983
Adele Kristiansson: And her performance was very self-referenced.
00:25:32.923 --> 00:25:42.783
Adele Kristiansson: That was just one example of two horses having a very different take on the same trainer and having very different results with that individual.
00:25:43.183 --> 00:25:45.903
Genie Joseph: So that's why you really have to ask the horse.
00:25:46.083 --> 00:25:52.603
Genie Joseph: Because if you have a horse and you're not asking the horse their opinion, you're really missing out on getting the whole picture.
00:25:53.303 --> 00:25:59.203
Genie Joseph: Because somebody could decide, oh, this trainer is so famous and so important, and how could I be wrong?
00:25:59.223 --> 00:26:04.523
Genie Joseph: But if you recognize that one of the horses is not doing well with this trainer, we need to really tune in.
00:26:05.083 --> 00:26:05.703
Adele Kristiansson: Exactly.
00:26:05.723 --> 00:26:08.123
Adele Kristiansson: And not everybody is right for everybody.
00:26:09.643 --> 00:26:22.043
Adele Kristiansson: But also, I find the best trainers are the ones who are very curious about what their horses want and what they want to say.
00:26:22.203 --> 00:26:29.023
Adele Kristiansson: And they're also, they have cultivated their intuition and their deep contact.
00:26:29.903 --> 00:26:32.903
Adele Kristiansson: And I can sense these people a mile off.
00:26:32.963 --> 00:26:39.063
Adele Kristiansson: They just inherently want the best for their horse and no questions asked.
00:26:39.143 --> 00:26:45.923
Adele Kristiansson: And they have and maintain a yes connection, and you see it in their riding.
00:26:45.943 --> 00:26:49.943
Adele Kristiansson: You see it the way they collaborate in union.
00:26:50.143 --> 00:26:57.463
Adele Kristiansson: And that's what I do to try to cultivate the relationships between my clients and their horses.
00:26:57.663 --> 00:26:58.063
Genie Joseph: Yeah.
00:26:58.643 --> 00:27:05.863
Genie Joseph: I think the more we move into partnership with animals rather than the ownership model, the better it's going to be for us and for them.
00:27:06.203 --> 00:27:06.603
Genie Joseph: Yeah.
00:27:07.303 --> 00:27:19.703
Genie Joseph: So when is the time that maybe a horse told you something that just completely surprised you, you weren't expecting, but that really maybe was a valuable lesson or experience for you, that a horse taught you something.
00:27:20.043 --> 00:27:21.583
Genie Joseph: I know you have a million of those stories, but...
00:27:23.043 --> 00:27:28.883
Adele Kristiansson: And I'm hoping to bring in a trainer to talk about some of these stories.
00:27:29.123 --> 00:27:29.883
Genie Joseph: Yes, we will.
00:27:29.983 --> 00:27:31.263
Genie Joseph: We'll do that in our next episode.
00:27:31.283 --> 00:27:32.363
Adele Kristiansson: Podcasts.
00:27:32.463 --> 00:27:45.883
Adele Kristiansson: But this trainer was getting ready to transport one of her horses overseas, and she wanted me to tell him that the flight was going to be delayed, the transatlantic flight.
00:27:45.903 --> 00:27:48.363
Adele Kristiansson: And this was my first connection with him ever.
00:27:49.123 --> 00:27:53.483
Adele Kristiansson: And the first thing out of his mouth was, well, I expected better from Lutonza.
00:27:54.703 --> 00:27:57.163
Adele Kristiansson: And I just dropped my jaw.
00:27:58.203 --> 00:28:01.583
Adele Kristiansson: I got back to her and I said, is the carrier Lutonza?
00:28:01.603 --> 00:28:04.463
Adele Kristiansson: She said, yes, the carrier Lutonza.
00:28:04.823 --> 00:28:14.443
Adele Kristiansson: So here I am talking to like some fat cat in the airport lounge who has his opinions about the carrier, has his opinions about delay.
00:28:15.683 --> 00:28:18.843
Adele Kristiansson: And was a little frustrated by it.
00:28:19.143 --> 00:28:20.883
Adele Kristiansson: That blew my mind, actually.
00:28:20.903 --> 00:28:21.923
Genie Joseph: That's mind blowing.
00:28:22.343 --> 00:28:24.823
Adele Kristiansson: And here's the thing, that was not my thought.
00:28:25.403 --> 00:28:26.523
Adele Kristiansson: Yes, exactly.
00:28:27.703 --> 00:28:29.183
Genie Joseph: Yeah, that's wild.
00:28:29.263 --> 00:28:30.303
Genie Joseph: That's absolutely wild.
00:28:30.743 --> 00:28:32.123
Genie Joseph: Well, that's wonderful.
00:28:32.143 --> 00:28:34.903
Genie Joseph: So what is up next for you?
00:28:34.923 --> 00:28:38.583
Genie Joseph: You've had such a wonderful career, but I know you have some directions.
00:28:38.603 --> 00:28:42.203
Genie Joseph: You're in training to become an animal chaplain.
00:28:42.643 --> 00:28:45.383
Genie Joseph: And what would you hope to do with that with horses?
00:28:45.843 --> 00:29:20.403
Adele Kristiansson: Well, ideally, I would like to work in-house for an event, say, the Hamptons Classic or even the World Equestrian Center in Ocala as an in-house chaplain to help sanctify the events, to help make meaning in what happens, to help everyone up well their best performance, and to open a full circuit of appreciation and performance.
00:29:21.943 --> 00:29:22.743
Genie Joseph: That's beautiful.
00:29:22.903 --> 00:29:31.063
Genie Joseph: Well, have you ever had a horse tell you, no, I don't want to compete or do something that was maybe different from what the owner had in mind for the horse?
00:29:31.083 --> 00:29:32.523
Genie Joseph: Have you ever had a situation like that?
00:29:33.063 --> 00:29:34.063
Adele Kristiansson: Absolutely.
00:29:35.243 --> 00:29:41.603
Adele Kristiansson: As a matter of fact, I know you were curious about how horses work together.
00:29:41.623 --> 00:29:52.123
Adele Kristiansson: And one of my clients has a horse named Yorka, and she was considering retiring one of her mares named Penny.
00:29:52.143 --> 00:30:05.043
Adele Kristiansson: And Yorka stepped in to the communication and let us know, one, that Penny would be fine retiring.
00:30:05.263 --> 00:30:11.283
Adele Kristiansson: Secondly, he knew where Martha was considering sending Penny.
00:30:11.303 --> 00:30:34.303
Adele Kristiansson: He sent me an image of this place, and he had already telepathically connected with other retired horses there and was able to assure us that all her needs would be met by the woman running the sanctuary and that Martha should drive Penny to the sanctuary herself.
00:30:34.383 --> 00:30:50.643
Adele Kristiansson: And Martha said this was a huge revelation to her because it enabled her and her clients to have a very meaningful farewell and to really personally bring Penny into her new home.
00:30:51.563 --> 00:30:52.263
Genie Joseph: Beautiful story.
00:30:52.283 --> 00:30:54.363
Adele Kristiansson: And that was only Yorke's recommendation.
00:30:54.623 --> 00:30:55.003
Genie Joseph: Wow.
00:30:55.023 --> 00:31:03.503
Genie Joseph: So one horse looking out for another horse and being able to see what is best, past what we humans with all her ideas might have been thinking.
00:31:03.523 --> 00:31:06.883
Genie Joseph: So that's just an inspiring and beautiful story.
00:31:07.223 --> 00:31:09.563
Genie Joseph: Well, Adele, I want to thank you so much for being with us.
00:31:09.583 --> 00:31:21.623
Genie Joseph: I know we're going to have you on again, because we're going to have you and the trainer you've worked with so she can corroborate some of these stories of how communication has really transformed relationships between her and the horses that she works with.
00:31:21.903 --> 00:31:25.143
Genie Joseph: So how can people get a hold of you if they'd like to connect with you?
00:31:25.563 --> 00:31:45.863
Adele Kristiansson: Well, you can email me at adelekristi at gmail.com, and I have a website, rippleeffecthealing.com, and you can send me a message through that, and I would love to hear from your listeners.
00:31:46.123 --> 00:31:46.803
Genie Joseph: Thank you.
00:31:46.823 --> 00:31:49.483
Genie Joseph: Thank you for being with us, and we'll see you again very soon.
00:31:49.963 --> 00:31:54.063
Genie Joseph: So thank you for being tuned in to our Human-Animal Connection podcast.
00:31:54.083 --> 00:31:58.723
Genie Joseph: We hope to see you very soon, or hear you very soon in the next episode.
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Genie Joseph: We'll say aloha for now.
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