Fearful Fido: A Breakdown of Common Canine Fears and How to Help
In this episode, Hannah Alsup, CPDT-KA of 3DogPet, a North Dallas-based pet care company, offers insights into the world of dog training. With over two decades of experience providing dog walking, pet sitting, and training services, 3DogPet has become a trusted name in the pet care industry.
As the daughter of the company's founder, Hannah shares her knowledge of positive reinforcement training, the significance of the acronyms often found behind professional dog trainers' names, and the common causes of fear and stress in dogs. This conversation invites listeners to identify their dogs' fears and share their own pet-related experiences with others as they grow as pet parents.
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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Let's talk pets.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome to Covered In Pet Hair, a boozy show for pet lovers on Pet Life Radio.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with a dog lover and pet professional that has a special place in her heart for fearful dogs.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will tell you all about her and introduce you as soon as we come back from these messages from our sponsors.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Hi, I'm Isabel Alvarez Arata, the host of Covered In Pet Hair.
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Announcer: Let's Talk Pets on petliferadio.com.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata, and today I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with a pet parent, a dog trainer.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's a professional dog walker and pet sitter.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's an adventure seeker, a road tripper, a foodie, a cocktail connoisseur.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's a coffee lover that was born and raised in Texas.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She is a fur mom to six pets.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: No, eight pets, nine pets, ten pets.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is it ten?
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, it's ten pets.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's a fur mom to six dogs, Cash, Madison, Maya, Ellie, Jackson, and Marlo.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Two cats, Remy and Finnegan, and two horses, Grace and Phoenix.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She is Hannah Alsup and she is with 3DogPet out of Keller?
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Hannah Alsup: Yes.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Keller, Texas.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome, Hannah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so great to have you on the show.
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Hannah Alsup: Thank you for having me.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's my pleasure.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I so enjoyed meeting you at the Texas Pet Sitters Conference.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I do plan to ask you about that.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before we get into all the things that you do for pets, including dog training, pet sitting, all the things, I want to introduce our drinking game today.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Anybody at home participating in our drinking game, anytime you hear this word.
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Announcer: The secret word is 3.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Take a drink of whatever you're enjoying, but please be over 21 in the US to partake, never drink and drive and always drink responsibly.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What are you having today, Hannah?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I saw a beautiful red cocktail over there.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah, I'm having a raspberry lemonade kombucha.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is there any alcohol in there?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is there any spirit in there?
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, there is vodka, some lemon juice and then berries.
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Hannah Alsup: It's supposed to be like a punch with cement and then the kombucha.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That sounds amazing and so refreshing.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah, it really was after today's heat.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well I'm actually having a little less refreshing.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm having something a little more coffee inspired.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is an amaretto mudslide because I really wanted coffee.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I really wanted that like latte but it's after 3 p.m.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: and if I drink any coffee after 3 p.m.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm up like vacuuming for the rest of the day.
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Hannah Alsup: Oh my gosh, yes.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So this is delicious.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you for being on the show.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's great to see you after the Texas Petsitters Conference.
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, it really is.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: First of all, how did you like the conference?
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Hannah Alsup: I loved it.
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Hannah Alsup: Not only was it a great disconnect, like connecting with people in the industry, but also just gaining different knowledge.
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Hannah Alsup: I cannot remember his name but just loved the speaker that we had talking about the aquariums and how to properly take care of them.
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Hannah Alsup: For all of the aquatic animals that we have, was super great information as well as loved having the dog trainers there because they're able to speak to a large crowd of people that work with dogs 24-7 and they gave some great tips and tricks.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Totally.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I agree.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It was aquarium keepers that was there.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I agree.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't take care of pets anymore and I have no interest in having an aquarium at any point in time in my life.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But it was really cool to learn about what petsitters should be looking for so that they can do right by the little creatures in the aquarium.
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Hannah Alsup: Absolutely.
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Hannah Alsup: I gained a lot of knowledge there and I was like, okay, I've got to make sure I write all this down.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so funny because I always say that the pet sitting industry is like the ugly stepchild of the pet industry.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like it's totally underrepresented, underappreciated and people have no idea that petsitters go to these conferences and we learn about dog training, cat care, we learn about enrichment, we learn about fear aggression, leash aggression, aquarium keeping, bookkeeping, all the things that we learn about as professional petsitters.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm no longer in the pet industry, but I consider myself adjacent to it since I still work with professional pet sitting businesses on their online presence team.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love to hear you say that you enjoy it.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Have you been to any of the conferences before?
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Hannah Alsup: No, this is actually my first one.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Amazing.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's so cool.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It is one of the best ones to go to Texas Pet Sitters.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I just feel like it's a really well put on conference, but it's also very friendly and laid back.
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Announcer: Yes.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's not as intimidating as going to some other industry events where you feel like, I don't know anybody, what am I going to do?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Who am I going to talk to?
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Hannah Alsup: Well, it definitely helps that we had a great bubbly host, because that always makes the things a way less business feel.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm the MC for this conference.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've done it two years in a row.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So are you going to be joining us for the cruise next year?
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Hannah Alsup: Oh, absolutely.
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Hannah Alsup: I'm so excited about that.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's going to be so great.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So the Texas Petsitters Association is exactly what the name implies, but they've had a conference for nine years.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: This was the ninth year here now in 2024.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So the 2025 conference is going to be on a cruise ship.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We're leaving out of Galveston next year in February.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We're all going to get our slimming swimsuits since we're all dog walkers and petsitters, not supermodels.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Everybody was talking about how they needed to lose weight in time.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're like, we have a year to lose weight.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm like, just come as you are.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's going to be great.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We're all friends here.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Nobody's trying to impress anybody.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think it's going to be great to get to know each other completely differently than a conference setting.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's going to be a conga line setting.
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Hannah Alsup: That is.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love it.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I can't wait.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I always introduce this show with a game and you are a professional dog walker, professional pet sitter and you are a professional dog trainer.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So what acronym do you have behind your name and what does that mean?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.
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Hannah Alsup: So it's the CCPDTKA and it is one of the standardized tests, kind of one of the only available standardized tests in my field.
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Hannah Alsup: You can't even apply to take it unless you've had, I believe, 300 hours of working with dogs and clients.
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Hannah Alsup: And then once you have that 300 hours, it is just a very formal sit down test where they're going over just again, that knowledge or that KA at the end is knowledge assessed.
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Hannah Alsup: So they're just going over all of the dog training knowledge and making sure that you are suitable to be working with people professionally.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, yes.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And that you have enough knowledge.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: There's too many dog trainers out there that have zero idea what they're doing.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They've never been tested because it's an unregulated industry and they're doing more harm than good.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I always say to people, if you have the choice between somebody who has acronyms behind their name and doesn't, definitely choose the one that's actually studied dog cognition and behavior.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Please, I beg you.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because I mean, I'm not a dog trainer, but I probably know more than the person who just started a dog training business down the street.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I can tell you that.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, I mean, whoo.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I always introduce this show with a game because it kind of like gets us to get to know you.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So this game is all about getting to know your pet peeves as a professional pet care provider and dog trainer.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So all of us have kind of like things that irk us a little bit when we're working with animals all day long.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And so this game is called Pet Peeves.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it's basically from a one to ten scale.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You're going to tell me how much these behaviors that are very common dog behaviors irk you.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you ready to play?
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, for sure.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: First and foremost, dogs off leash.
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Hannah Alsup: That goes straight to ten.
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Hannah Alsup: No, like absolutely ten.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Same, same, same.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It makes my blood boil.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The dog that jumps up on you.
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Hannah Alsup: I'd probably say that's like a six.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm five one.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like that's like a nine to me.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Especially if it's a big dog.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like little dogs too.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Big dog, nine.
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Hannah Alsup: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Barking incessantly where you feel like your head's gonna explode.
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Hannah Alsup: That'd probably be an eight.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Eight, at least.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know that as a dog walker, I remember I would come in and they would like be pacing and whining because they were so excited that you couldn't even get their harness on and you were like following them around being like, stop so I can get you outside.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What number do you give that behavior?
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Hannah Alsup: I will say there's a reason that some of my numbers are a little bit lower than maybe other people's and it's mainly just because I know the reasoning as to why these behaviors are happening.
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Hannah Alsup: But for me for that one is probably going to be like a four.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How about happy peeing?
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Hannah Alsup: I'd probably say that's like a three, four as well.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's not like it's voluntary, but it's still annoying to clean up and then they're stepping in it.
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, for sure.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: For those who don't know what happy peeing is, it's submissive urination.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's when dogs get kind of excited, especially if they're younger and they haven't mastered holding their bladder.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They can do a little, what is it?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Pibble a little bit.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah, a little little piddle.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Piddle.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's what it is.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Piddle.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So loving you or each other.
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Hannah Alsup: I'd probably say that's like a four or five.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's not.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
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Hannah Alsup: Mainly because I know that it's like with the submissive peeing, a lot of times it's an involuntary behavior.
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Hannah Alsup: Depending on the dog and their personalities, they can even be a little bit confused or embarrassed about it.
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Hannah Alsup: Not all, but just because again, it is just from an excitement situation, I would probably rate that like a three to five scale.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Pulling on leash, like where you're flying down the street, you feel like a cartoon.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah, that'd probably be like a seven or eight.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think that that one is not just a little perturbing, it's just stress-inducing because you feel like, I mean, this dog's going to drag me down the street.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Danger, danger.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Isabel's flying down the street.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Dealing food from a mate.
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Hannah Alsup: That's probably going to be like an eight or a nine.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's not fair, right?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And some of them are like perpet, like they're like repeat offenders.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So where they like are always like bullying the other dog in the house out of their food, that bothers me.
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Hannah Alsup: And again, it's going to wear a lot of some of these numbers might be a little bit lower because for me, that's a management on the client dog.
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Hannah Alsup: People want to put dogs too close together when it comes to eating.
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Hannah Alsup: I mean, people will have multiple dogs and have them eating like in a line down a row.
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Hannah Alsup: And that's just such a setup for a disaster.
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Hannah Alsup: I have six dogs and all of them eat extremely separate from each other.
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Hannah Alsup: So because of that reason, I it's more of like a management thing.
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Hannah Alsup: So I'm a little bit more lower on some of those numbers because, again, I know the reasoning is behind them and how to have that conversation with the client and have to fix that.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And also the pet peeve would be then a human peeve because the human did not set them up for success, right?
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, absolutely.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: There's a lot of human peeves, but we won't go into those.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Alright, last one, counter surfing.
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Hannah Alsup: I probably put that as like an eight.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Eight because, I mean, it's so hard to like these dogs that are like really good counter surfers are so quick at it that like you're like putting away your groceries and there went the bread.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So yeah, it can be, it can be counter surfer.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Her name was Sox and boy was she good at it.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But also it was all about management, like you said.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if I didn't mention it or maybe I did, what is your biggest pet peeve ever?
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Hannah Alsup: I will say you did already nail it on the head because it's awfully strong.
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Hannah Alsup: I will say that is going to be the number one biggest pet peeve overall of everything.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh, me too.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I see a dog off leash and I think, and it's always, okay, not to be like judgy, but it's usually like a young guy who thinks it's really cool for his dog to be off leash because he's such a good dog trainer and he's such a macho guy, you know?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That the dog listens to him so well and I'm like, get your dog on a leash.
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Hannah Alsup: Yes.
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Hannah Alsup: And it's one of those things that, one of the reasons why it's probably like my biggest pet peeve is because I've had so many clients come to me, specifically because now their dog is reactive because it's gotten attacked by off leash dogs.
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Hannah Alsup: I've had a dog who, like one of my dog training friends, I mean, her dog was attacked three times, three separate occasions by off leash dogs.
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Hannah Alsup: And she's a dog trainer, but it still set her and her dog back on their training and their progress so much.
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Hannah Alsup: So that's like a consistent thing.
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Hannah Alsup: You know, you think that your dog is trained until they run away and they attack another dog or they get into a scuffle.
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
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Hannah Alsup: So it's always going to be my top.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Same, same, same, same, same, so much same.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So how did you end up in the pet industry?
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
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Hannah Alsup: So I work for 3DogPet and it is a family owned business.
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Hannah Alsup: So my mom opened that about 20 years ago.
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Hannah Alsup: I started working for her doing pet sitting kind of in high school and in college.
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Hannah Alsup: I went to school for animal behavior and I kind of already knew that I wanted to do something with animals, but I hadn't pinpointed it exactly.
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Hannah Alsup: And then I did an internship at the Global Freemane Society working and training their dogs just to make them a little bit more appealing to people to come in to kind of get them off of that adoptive lure quicker.
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Hannah Alsup: And again, I was kind of working to leave their day-to-day stress because there's a lot of stress that goes into our shelter dogs.
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Hannah Alsup: And I really fell in love with dog training there and kind of the rest is history.
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Hannah Alsup: I came home and I started working for a facility or two.
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Hannah Alsup: And then after a while, we just decided to open it up under her business just to kind of keep everything under one umbrella.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's amazing.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I would assume based on what we've talked about so far that you are a positive based dog trainer.
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Hannah Alsup: Yes, all positive.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So all positive.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She has acronyms behind her name and she uses positive only, not balanced, not aversive, just a positive reinforcement dog trainer.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you don't know what that is and you're talking to a dog trainer, ask them.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And if you trust us, send them on their way if they don't say that they are positive reinforcement dog trainer, please.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Please, please, please.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You will pay the consequences later.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Trust me when I tell you that.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so you work full-time in the industry, you work with your family-based business, you are a dog walker, pet sitter and dog trainer.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I assume you work with a variety of species because you're in Texas.
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Hannah Alsup: Anything and everything that we can care for animal-wise, we take care of.
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Hannah Alsup: Except snakes.
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Hannah Alsup: My mom has never gotten into the reptile field very much.
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Hannah Alsup: That's kind of the only one.
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Hannah Alsup: Everything else we take care of.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What's really funny is when I started my dog walking, pet sitting business in Northern Virginia, I was like, I don't want to do snakes.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I never ever really had to get to take care of snakes because exotics were illegal in that county that we served.
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Hannah Alsup: Ah, yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank goodness.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, I had a little lizard at some point that I would just throw little critters in, and that was okay, but bull snake, no way, not happening.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so because you work with so many animals, but you're also a dog trainer, what do your days look like?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How much is spent with pet care?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How much is spent dog training?
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Hannah Alsup: Mine, I would say nowadays is really quite balanced, and it's more balanced just because a lot of my pet sitting clients have transitioned over to dog training clients.
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Hannah Alsup: Actually, just like as an example, one of the dogs that I had today, he started out as pet sitting, and now I see him Monday through Friday, and we do a combination of just drop-ins and doing dog walks, and then doing training.
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Hannah Alsup: I do what I call a dog about town service.
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Hannah Alsup: I go to the client's house, I pick up their dog, and then we frequent dog-friendly locations that's just near their house, whether that is a pet store, a dog-friendly restaurant, just local parks, or even the vet, just to again make those experience positive for the dog, so that way when the client takes them out, it's not as overwhelming for the client.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is such a good idea.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like I've never really heard of dog-specific care services, offering something like that.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's a really great idea.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you do a debrief after your visit to the vet or to the restaurant to tell your client what it is you worked on, what they need to do at home?
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
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Hannah Alsup: It really depends on the dog and where they're at in their training journey.
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Hannah Alsup: We as a company use a software called Precise Pet Care, which I know that you are familiar with.
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Hannah Alsup: We're able to give a general update in the Precise Pet Care.
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Hannah Alsup: Then again, depending on where their dogs are at in their training.
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Hannah Alsup: For the dog that I had today doing the dog about town, he's still very fresh into it.
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Hannah Alsup: I'm probably going to be having a meeting with his mom probably about every week, week and a half, whether that's just a quick chat or an actual in-depth in-person training review.
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Hannah Alsup: Just again, make sure that there's no questions, no issues with the dog when the owner is trying to do the things that I have trained and making sure that everyone is just happy overall.
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Hannah Alsup: Again, it really depends.
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Hannah Alsup: Another dog that I had, I've had since he's eight weeks old, and we are still doing the dog about town service for him.
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Hannah Alsup: For him, it's mainly just like a socialization, and his mom is just busy through meetings, so it's just a nice relief for her that I'm able to take him.
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Hannah Alsup: He gets that socialization practice, he gets tired, and then I can bring him back home.
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Hannah Alsup: For her, we don't do as many check-ins, just whenever she is there and I can chat with her, we just go over it.
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Hannah Alsup: But he's definitely a lot further in his training progress.
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Hannah Alsup: It's just, hey, all is good, we had a good encounter or hey, this we need a little bit more work on.
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Hannah Alsup: That is so cool.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think that's such a great idea because a lot of these things are really necessary, maybe the first year or two of life, and then you reap the benefits of those kind of, it is an expense and it's an investment.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And so you reap the benefits of those for the 15, hopefully, years that you have that dog.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I can't think of a better way to invest in your pet than having somebody come in, give them exercise, give them entertainment, give them enrichment, teach them manners, get them socialized.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like it's so important for dogs to not just live in a room.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: My dog right now is laying on my office floor.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I think it's so important.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's like literally like, when are we going for our WAL pay?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And because it's usually around this time, and they look forward to these things, and they like to kind of relate to the environment.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And they like these adventures if you start them early.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Obviously, if you wait too long, then it's the dog that you can never leave alone.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's the dog that doesn't do well with the pets that are, if you never start these things early.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I think that's such a great idea.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you do dog walking for, you know, potty breaks, you do pet sitting while people are traveling, you do the dog about town that is kind of like an enhanced dog walk, I would say.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What other services do you guys offer?
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Hannah Alsup: So for, we do all kind of like pet sitting.
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Hannah Alsup: So we do cat care, other animals, farm care, et cetera.
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Hannah Alsup: But when it comes to dog training, we also do essentially kind of like a reverse board and train.
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Hannah Alsup: So instead of the dog coming to my house, the humans go on vacation.
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Hannah Alsup: And when the humans go on vacation, I have a list of things that the client is wanting their dog to cover or work on.
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Hannah Alsup: And then we will spend that time through the pet sits, whether that's just my 30 minute, 45 minute drop-ins or if I'm doing like an overnight with the client.
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Hannah Alsup: And then when they came home, we have a debrief of everything that has been going and trained during the time that they were away.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that so much.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think that's such a great idea.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Again, keeping the pet in their home environment, teaching them what they need to learn, starting at home.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Not to say that they don't ever practice these skills elsewhere, but they start at home where they're going to be most of the time.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that so much.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What is the name of that service?
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Just so that I'm familiar.
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Hannah Alsup: We don't necessarily have it.
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Hannah Alsup: It's really just kind of like a board and train really is kind of how we have it labeled.
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Hannah Alsup: It's just we have it in the description that it's where the humans leave instead of the dog coming to us.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is brilliant.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I really truly believe it's brilliant.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know that you have so much to offer dogs as far as skills and things that you can teach them, but you have a special place in your heart for fearful dogs and dogs that need a little confidence boost.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So don't go anywhere.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: When we come back, I'm going to ask Hannah all about dog fears, what makes them scared, what doesn't, and how we can help our beloved dogs.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You know, get a little more confident living in the world that, well, we run for them.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So don't go anywhere.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will be right back with Hannah Alsup.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And today, I'm speaking to Hannah Alsup, a 3DogPet, who is a dog trainer, pet sitter, dog walker, who does so much for the pets in her care.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She can, like many pet sitters who do both pet sitting and dog walking and dog training, she can kind of overlap her services so that the dogs are not only having their needs met, but also learning skills in the process.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I know that one of the skills that Hannah, you like to teach is confidence.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So for our second game today, I want to invite you to play Fear Factor Dog Edition.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I'm going to give you one minute on my handy dandy clock here.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Come on, clock, turn on.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I'm going to give you one minute.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And all you have to do is tell me things that scare dogs.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you ready to play?
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Hannah Alsup: I'm ready.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Three, two, one, go.
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Hannah Alsup: All right.
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Hannah Alsup: So we got all the sounds, we got garbage trucks, we got garbage disposals, ice makers, we have textures, whether that's tile, gravel, carpet.
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Hannah Alsup: We have people who are wearing different types of attire, sunglasses, hats, people who are tall, people who are wearing baggy clothes.
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Hannah Alsup: I've had dogs get afraid of a bag on a counter.
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Hannah Alsup: I've had them get afraid of a trash bag.
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Hannah Alsup: I've had a dog become afraid of a skateboard, their own toys.
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Hannah Alsup: I've had a dog become afraid of like, I have a gardening bed outside.
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Hannah Alsup: My puppy for the first time was like, whoa, what the heck is this?
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Hannah Alsup: Let's see.
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Hannah Alsup: They're on food bowl.
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Hannah Alsup: I've had that a time or two where out of the context of being actually given food, they're like, whoa, this is scary and what is this?
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Hannah Alsup: I've had a dog be afraid of a water bowl before, again as well when it's empty, whole different realm for whatever reason.
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Hannah Alsup: Now I'm coming close.
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Hannah Alsup: Let's see.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Great job.
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Hannah Alsup: Oh my God.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, you did a great job.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have a dog that is very, very sensitive.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She's scared of thunderstorms, she's scared of fireworks.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thankfully, in El Paso, we don't get a lot of either one of those things.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But she's so sensitive that even the storm is coming in, you see her shaking.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's not even noise, it's just that change in the atmospheric pressure, whatever it is that she's sensitive to.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But also she's very scared of hardwood floors and tile floors.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: When we were traveling a year ago, we went to this Southwestern hotel that had these, I can't remember what they're called, but they're like clay tiles, like red clay Mexican tiles.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: They have a name, I just can't remember.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: She, during the day, was terrified of them at night, didn't even notice them.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And we realized that it was not just texture of the tile, it was also potentially the reflection of the light, the way that it looked to her, the shadows.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it's really interesting to me when I see fears, because I feel like some of it is really an investigative process.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you find that like you have to kind of go full like a detective on certain behaviors to find out what is actually causing the fear?
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Hannah Alsup: Absolutely.
00:26:02.672 --> 00:26:06.392
Hannah Alsup: There's been a lot of times where a client will tell me, you know, hey, this is what's going on.
00:26:06.392 --> 00:26:11.772
Hannah Alsup: And without, you know, being in their home, we'll go through a few things and then, you know, hey, that's not working.
00:26:11.772 --> 00:26:13.192
Hannah Alsup: It's still this, this, this.
00:26:13.192 --> 00:26:15.852
Hannah Alsup: And then I'll even go over to their house, we'll work on it.
00:26:15.852 --> 00:26:18.292
Hannah Alsup: Sometimes it does take a whole like a whole village though.
00:26:18.292 --> 00:26:28.432
Hannah Alsup: I mean, I have a dog that I've been working with for a few years and he's definitely has some anxiety, has some just kind of little quirks to his personality, love him just as much.
00:26:28.432 --> 00:26:32.552
Hannah Alsup: But recently he's actually even developed some more kind of troubling things.
00:26:32.552 --> 00:26:35.832
Hannah Alsup: They started talking to specialists and reaching out to different people.
00:26:35.832 --> 00:26:40.932
Hannah Alsup: So sometimes it really does just take a whole village to really be able to figure out what's going on.
00:26:40.932 --> 00:26:48.372
Hannah Alsup: They were finally able to kind of narrow it down to a traumatic incident happening when he was a puppy, surrounding with potting training actually.
00:26:48.372 --> 00:26:51.112
Hannah Alsup: And so that's kind of what we've narrowed it down to.
00:26:51.112 --> 00:26:53.532
Hannah Alsup: But again, sometimes it does just take like a whole village.
00:26:53.852 --> 00:26:54.492
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.
00:26:54.492 --> 00:26:55.012
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.
00:26:55.012 --> 00:27:03.652
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so important to see what the dog trainer is seeing, what the veterinarian is seeing, what the specialist, like neurologist might be seeing, what the pet parent is seeing.
00:27:03.652 --> 00:27:07.312
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because when we start making assumptions, we might miss something.
00:27:07.312 --> 00:27:12.412
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it's really like what you are observing without any assumptions, without any like preconceived notions.
00:27:12.412 --> 00:27:13.232
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This is what I'm seeing.
00:27:13.232 --> 00:27:21.632
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then together, you can always, potentially, and some mysteries will never be solved, but potentially at least manage or work your way around them, right?
00:27:21.872 --> 00:27:22.212
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.
00:27:22.212 --> 00:27:30.312
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I remember one of my friends who's a dog trainer online, or somebody was posting a situation with a dog that was scared of the refrigerator.
00:27:30.312 --> 00:27:34.192
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Probably the reflection wouldn't come into the kitchen because of it.
00:27:34.192 --> 00:27:37.072
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And so they were never going to get rid of the refrigerator.
00:27:37.072 --> 00:27:40.812
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They weren't going to be able to explain to the dog what the refrigerator does.
00:27:40.812 --> 00:27:42.992
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like, we like the refrigerator.
00:27:42.992 --> 00:27:47.172
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So they started just like just putting peanut butter all over the fridge.
00:27:47.172 --> 00:27:50.152
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, it's messy, but apparently it works.
00:27:50.192 --> 00:27:54.792
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So like, you know, it's knowing where the fear comes from and then we can work through it.
00:27:54.792 --> 00:27:58.172
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So what fears do you find are pretty common in your area?
00:27:58.172 --> 00:28:01.112
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know Dallas is terrible, terrible weather.
00:28:01.112 --> 00:28:05.412
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So do you find that like storm aversion, noise aversion?
00:28:05.412 --> 00:28:11.852
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you find other kind of fears are more common for your clients or what you're experiencing?
00:28:11.852 --> 00:28:13.732
Hannah Alsup: Definitely thunder is always a big one.
00:28:13.732 --> 00:28:22.292
Hannah Alsup: For most clients, I would say that already have like an anxious dog or maybe have some anxious tendencies, thundering, the storms are always kind of added into that.
00:28:22.292 --> 00:28:26.492
Hannah Alsup: But I would definitely say socialization, just kind of like the lack of that.
00:28:26.492 --> 00:28:28.112
Hannah Alsup: So just different textures.
00:28:28.112 --> 00:28:32.872
Hannah Alsup: A lot of people focus on making sure that our dogs are comfortable with people and dogs.
00:28:32.872 --> 00:28:34.932
Hannah Alsup: And I mean, that's great and it's great to check off.
00:28:34.932 --> 00:28:39.232
Hannah Alsup: But we always really want to make sure that we're covering all four parts of socialization.
00:28:39.232 --> 00:28:42.912
Hannah Alsup: So not only is my dog comfortable with surface, different surfaces.
00:28:42.912 --> 00:28:48.532
Hannah Alsup: So whether that's tile, wood flooring, bubble wrap, things that have grip, things that don't have grip.
00:28:48.972 --> 00:28:58.652
Hannah Alsup: And then noise socialization, making sure that they're comfortable with the garbage truck, because I have so many clients that will tell me, why I really can't go for my, I can't take my dog for a walk because they don't like this noise.
00:28:58.652 --> 00:29:07.972
Hannah Alsup: Whether that's construction going on down the street, whether that's dogs barking from their backyard at the dog, whether that's the garbage truck going down the street.
00:29:07.972 --> 00:29:14.092
Hannah Alsup: And then of course too, ever since kind of COVID happened, our dogs have just been a little under socialized even more.
00:29:14.092 --> 00:29:23.872
Hannah Alsup: So also just the unfamiliarity of seeing random people on the street or people who look different and have dogs with them or are just walking and they're not paying attention to the dog.
00:29:23.872 --> 00:29:26.032
Hannah Alsup: Sometimes that can be very unsettling.
00:29:26.032 --> 00:29:28.212
Hannah Alsup: They're like, oh, should I be nervous?
00:29:28.392 --> 00:29:32.092
Hannah Alsup: You're looking at your phone, you're walking very stiff, etc.
00:29:32.092 --> 00:29:35.012
Hannah Alsup: So I would say it really kind of just comes back to the socialization.
00:29:35.012 --> 00:29:41.452
Hannah Alsup: And that's kind of a lot of what I deal with is just making sure that our dogs are comfortable in all aspects.
00:29:41.452 --> 00:29:43.972
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, just living the life that they live.
00:29:43.972 --> 00:29:48.112
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's funny that you should say the whole hat thing when you were talking about the fears.
00:29:48.112 --> 00:29:57.872
Isabel Alvarez Arata: When I was a professional pet sitter and I had employees, and I always told, especially the men, because women don't always wear hats, so it wasn't that common.
00:29:57.872 --> 00:30:00.692
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But the men on my team always wear a cap.
00:30:00.692 --> 00:30:03.692
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I even gave out an embroidered, the wag-pack cap.
00:30:03.692 --> 00:30:13.832
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And when I gave it out, I was like, guys, if the dog seems to be a little nervous around you, the first thing you do is take your sunglasses, take your hats off so they can see you because they don't know you.
00:30:13.832 --> 00:30:15.372
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They don't know if you're there for good reason.
00:30:16.612 --> 00:30:20.532
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And even the friendliest dog could be like, hey, you look different than you did last week.
00:30:20.532 --> 00:30:21.232
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.
00:30:21.232 --> 00:30:25.492
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So because your physical appearance has changed and their physical appearance doesn't change that much.
00:30:25.492 --> 00:30:26.592
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're not used to that.
00:30:26.592 --> 00:30:30.312
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They're the, we're able to like go from, I can go blonde.
00:30:30.312 --> 00:30:38.852
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I actually, little anecdote, I actually had a Britney Spears brunch at my house because we were reading her book and I wore blonde wig.
00:30:38.852 --> 00:30:42.052
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And when my dog saw me, she was like, you're not my mom.
00:30:42.052 --> 00:30:43.952
Hannah Alsup: She was like, what is that?
00:30:44.552 --> 00:30:51.192
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So really they do like even if it is you and they smell you and they know you, they can still be like, hey, what is going on with you today?
00:30:51.192 --> 00:30:53.992
Hannah Alsup: Well, kind of like what you were saying is about your dog with like shadows.
00:30:53.992 --> 00:30:56.772
Hannah Alsup: Actually, I had that encounter with my puppy.
00:30:56.772 --> 00:30:58.792
Hannah Alsup: She's only about like a year old right now.
00:30:58.792 --> 00:31:05.172
Hannah Alsup: And my dad was walking into the house over like Easter weekend and it was just a dark hallway.
00:31:05.172 --> 00:31:07.872
Hannah Alsup: And I think he was also wearing a hat during the time.
00:31:07.872 --> 00:31:10.512
Hannah Alsup: My dog is very familiar with my dad and knows who he is.
00:31:10.512 --> 00:31:19.912
Hannah Alsup: But just in that moment, walking down a dark hallway, he's also a very tall man and having his hat on, she like did a whole alert bark and was like, oh my gosh.
00:31:19.912 --> 00:31:22.412
Hannah Alsup: And then he got to where she could actually see him in the light.
00:31:22.412 --> 00:31:23.752
Hannah Alsup: And she was like, oh, exactly.
00:31:23.752 --> 00:31:24.192
Hannah Alsup: It's cool.
00:31:24.192 --> 00:31:24.812
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.
00:31:24.812 --> 00:31:25.612
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.
00:31:25.612 --> 00:31:29.792
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thankfully, thankfully he didn't get bit or he didn't get lunched at.
00:31:29.792 --> 00:31:30.572
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right.
00:31:30.572 --> 00:31:34.892
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But that is sometimes we say there was no reason for the dog to attack.
00:31:34.892 --> 00:31:39.752
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But we don't know that because for the dog, the dog might have been like, who the heck are you?
00:31:39.752 --> 00:31:41.432
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you are not allowed in here.
00:31:41.792 --> 00:31:42.752
Hannah Alsup: Absolutely.
00:31:42.752 --> 00:31:48.792
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay, so I know you probably design your treatment.
00:31:48.792 --> 00:31:55.412
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Let's just call it treatment or your methods according to the fear, the dog, their age, all those things.
00:31:55.412 --> 00:32:01.352
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But what do you use that's kind of like common in your toolbox to address fears in dogs?
00:32:01.352 --> 00:32:01.912
Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
00:32:01.912 --> 00:32:04.692
Hannah Alsup: So I mean, like you said, it's definitely an assessment.
00:32:04.692 --> 00:32:09.772
Hannah Alsup: So kind of figuring out is my dog so afraid that he's not able to even take food?
00:32:10.092 --> 00:32:11.712
Hannah Alsup: Is my dog able to take food?
00:32:11.712 --> 00:32:15.212
Hannah Alsup: But is it only able to take food if it's five feet away from the scary thing?
00:32:15.212 --> 00:32:17.952
Hannah Alsup: Or so I definitely have to do like the assessment.
00:32:17.952 --> 00:32:30.992
Hannah Alsup: And then I would say one of the biggest tools and one of the biggest things that people kind of just overlook is especially when you're working with a, you know, under confident or under socialized fearful dog, always make the problem so much easier.
00:32:30.992 --> 00:32:31.872
Hannah Alsup: Slice it thinner.
00:32:31.872 --> 00:32:39.412
Hannah Alsup: So take what you have at hand and make it like the tiniest portion of that problem and work on that and then slowly build and build and build.
00:32:39.772 --> 00:32:44.072
Hannah Alsup: So, you know, if my dog is not comfortable five feet away, okay, we're going to work seven feet away.
00:32:44.072 --> 00:32:48.852
Hannah Alsup: We're going to start here where you are comfortable and then we'll see if we can bridge that gap and continue to work.
00:32:48.852 --> 00:32:54.392
Hannah Alsup: So I'd say that's the biggest thing is people don't have the patience to want to wait that out and take the time.
00:32:54.392 --> 00:32:55.652
Hannah Alsup: They want to get quick results.
00:32:55.652 --> 00:32:58.932
Hannah Alsup: They want to see results by the end of that 30 minute session.
00:32:58.932 --> 00:33:01.172
Hannah Alsup: And that's just not, that's not reality.
00:33:01.172 --> 00:33:02.792
Hannah Alsup: That's not practical.
00:33:02.792 --> 00:33:08.252
Hannah Alsup: So I'd say that that's probably the biggest thing and one of the biggest things in my toolbox and something that people comment on all the time.
00:33:08.572 --> 00:33:11.532
Hannah Alsup: It's just how patient I am and I will wait a dog out.
00:33:11.532 --> 00:33:13.412
Hannah Alsup: I will work with them wherever they're at.
00:33:13.412 --> 00:33:17.312
Hannah Alsup: And I definitely think that I had a little bit of a help in that field with one of my dogs.
00:33:17.312 --> 00:33:30.492
Hannah Alsup: We were doing agility work and she was, she was very under confident in that area and being able to really just take the problem really small and work through it and then be able to see her actually be able to like write a full agility course.
00:33:30.492 --> 00:33:32.152
Hannah Alsup: It was like a huge thing at the very end.
00:33:32.152 --> 00:33:36.732
Hannah Alsup: So be patient, take your time, make things small and then slowly work your way up.
00:33:36.892 --> 00:33:44.792
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love that so much because I know that some people are like, hey, the dog is scared of the trash truck, let's leash them up and go to the trash truck.
00:33:44.792 --> 00:33:48.412
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it's like, no, you're only going to make it worse.
00:33:48.412 --> 00:33:50.332
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do not do that.
00:33:50.332 --> 00:33:56.032
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Maybe, you know, give, know when the trash truck is coming and have treats ready.
00:33:56.032 --> 00:34:02.712
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then like in the house in a safe space, try to see if they'll take a treat even though the trash truck is driving by.
00:34:02.712 --> 00:34:07.652
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Whatever it may be, start really small before you go lazy and take them.
00:34:07.652 --> 00:34:14.212
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, I just, I see people doing things even with kids, like where they just like, your kid scared of water, let me throw them in.
00:34:14.212 --> 00:34:16.372
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You're not throwing my kids in the pool, that's for sure.
00:34:16.372 --> 00:34:22.732
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you're not my scared dog up to what they're scared of because that's traumatic and horrible to do.
00:34:22.732 --> 00:34:23.432
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.
00:34:23.432 --> 00:34:27.232
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So what can pet parents who really do want to do something, right?
00:34:27.332 --> 00:34:28.672
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We want to do some things.
00:34:28.672 --> 00:34:33.272
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We definitely now learn that it's not just throwing them full throttle into their fear.
00:34:33.272 --> 00:34:47.552
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do not crate them with their panic, like my friend Milena DiMartini said, like when people are like a dog is scared of being alone, so we're going to crate them and we're going to like use the like heavy duty crate and we're going to just like close them in with their panic.
00:34:47.552 --> 00:34:49.672
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We don't want to close them in with their panic in a crate.
00:34:49.672 --> 00:34:52.512
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We don't want to throw them with their panic on a leash.
00:34:52.512 --> 00:34:54.752
Isabel Alvarez Arata: No keeping a dog with his panic.
00:34:54.892 --> 00:35:02.692
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But like let's say that we want to do something, even a little something every day where we can boost our dog's confident.
00:35:02.692 --> 00:35:03.572
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What would that be?
00:35:03.572 --> 00:35:04.792
Isabel Alvarez Arata: What it should look like?
00:35:04.792 --> 00:35:05.472
Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
00:35:05.472 --> 00:35:09.572
Hannah Alsup: So definitely kind of depends on what the total outcome is being.
00:35:09.572 --> 00:35:13.572
Hannah Alsup: So let's say that your dog, let's just take the garbage truck as an example.
00:35:13.572 --> 00:35:15.792
Hannah Alsup: So let's say that my dog is afraid of the garbage truck.
00:35:15.792 --> 00:35:20.812
Hannah Alsup: Instead of like we said, taking my dog out there and walking him up to the garbage truck, start inside.
00:35:20.812 --> 00:35:22.212
Hannah Alsup: YouTube is actually a great resource.
00:35:22.312 --> 00:35:26.912
Hannah Alsup: There's tons of socialization noise videos on YouTube.
00:35:26.912 --> 00:35:38.072
Hannah Alsup: It's actually what I tell a lot of my clients that have puppies at home, that maybe are not able to fill every evening with going out to have our dogs check out all these environments, to check out all these different sounds.
00:35:38.072 --> 00:35:39.612
Hannah Alsup: So, okay, let's go to YouTube.
00:35:39.612 --> 00:35:42.072
Hannah Alsup: Let's take part of their meal because they're puppies, they're young.
00:35:42.072 --> 00:35:44.212
Hannah Alsup: Even if they're older, you know, grab a few treats.
00:35:44.212 --> 00:35:45.532
Hannah Alsup: But let's go to YouTube.
00:35:45.532 --> 00:35:48.272
Hannah Alsup: Let's type in garbage truck socialization video.
00:35:48.272 --> 00:35:54.972
Hannah Alsup: Guarantee you're going to pull up like a huge construction video, just different noises, and it'll actually go through all of them.
00:35:54.972 --> 00:35:57.372
Hannah Alsup: I mean, some of these videos are like over an hour long.
00:35:57.372 --> 00:36:01.032
Hannah Alsup: And I would just sit there and just feed your dog while they're listening to it.
00:36:01.032 --> 00:36:04.592
Hannah Alsup: And if your dog's not taking it, just sitting right next to you, move away from the noise.
00:36:04.592 --> 00:36:08.812
Hannah Alsup: So maybe have the computer play and go to the next room and feed them.
00:36:08.812 --> 00:36:12.792
Hannah Alsup: So again, if the problem is still hard where you're at, make it smaller.
00:36:12.792 --> 00:36:16.312
Hannah Alsup: So, okay, hey, you can't take the food right here like this close.
00:36:16.312 --> 00:36:19.332
Hannah Alsup: Let's just go to the next room and then tomorrow maybe we'll try to work in there.
00:36:20.052 --> 00:36:21.732
Hannah Alsup: And then just slowly build it up from there.
00:36:21.732 --> 00:36:23.772
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is such a good idea, YouTube, man.
00:36:23.772 --> 00:36:24.592
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I did not know.
00:36:24.592 --> 00:36:26.292
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And would that be helpful for a puppy?
00:36:26.292 --> 00:36:30.092
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Like you just brought home a puppy and you want to like socialize them to noise.
00:36:30.092 --> 00:36:34.392
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But maybe you don't like I live in El Paso where we don't have a lot of thunderstorms.
00:36:34.392 --> 00:36:36.452
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Maybe I could play something like that for them.
00:36:36.452 --> 00:36:36.852
Hannah Alsup: Yeah.
00:36:36.852 --> 00:36:42.012
Hannah Alsup: And I would say really for all ages, I mean, it's great for puppies because of course during that socialization window, it's key.
00:36:42.012 --> 00:36:47.072
Hannah Alsup: But even if you have an older dog who is afraid of noises, it's not a bad idea to start counter-conditioning.
00:36:47.472 --> 00:36:52.812
Hannah Alsup: The progress will be slower just because they have a different reinforcement history than a puppy would be.
00:36:52.812 --> 00:36:57.272
Hannah Alsup: But it's still the same thing that I would do with an older dog who's showing the same problems.
00:36:57.272 --> 00:37:03.052
Hannah Alsup: It's still start with the YouTube videos, make it a small proper, make it a small thing and then slowly build from there.
00:37:03.052 --> 00:37:05.952
Hannah Alsup: But it is a great resource if you have a brand new puppy too.
00:37:05.952 --> 00:37:06.332
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.
00:37:06.332 --> 00:37:11.772
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Is there something that we do with our pets when we raise them that actually hinders their confidence?
00:37:12.012 --> 00:37:15.352
Hannah Alsup: So I would say it's a lot of again kind of in the socialization.
00:37:15.352 --> 00:37:19.352
Hannah Alsup: So if your dog is not comfortable saying hi to someone, don't force them to say hi.
00:37:19.352 --> 00:37:23.292
Hannah Alsup: Don't force them to say hi even though people will be like, but they have a cookie so it's fine.
00:37:23.292 --> 00:37:29.812
Hannah Alsup: It can still make a lasting impression to where they're just either off put with people and they're just like, I don't care to interact with you.
00:37:29.812 --> 00:37:35.312
Hannah Alsup: Or it can make them to where they're like, I want nothing to do with you and I'm going to start to show you that I don't want anything to do with you.
00:37:35.312 --> 00:37:38.952
Hannah Alsup: So I would always just say make sure that you're observing your dog's body language.
00:37:38.952 --> 00:37:43.452
Hannah Alsup: If you're unfamiliar with dog body language, again, there's tons of online helpful tools.
00:37:43.452 --> 00:37:48.032
Hannah Alsup: Google dog body language even if you want to do it more specific to your specific breed.
00:37:48.032 --> 00:37:49.812
Hannah Alsup: Type in, I have a healer right next to me.
00:37:49.812 --> 00:37:56.432
Hannah Alsup: I type in healer body language just so I can get clear examples of what I should and shouldn't be looking out for.
00:37:56.432 --> 00:37:58.512
Hannah Alsup: Then when you're out in public, watch your dog.
00:37:58.512 --> 00:38:09.452
Hannah Alsup: I see so many times people go to a farmer's market and they pay no attention to their dog because they're absorbed in the environment themselves, and you have this terrified dog that's walking next to you.
00:38:09.452 --> 00:38:19.812
Hannah Alsup: If you're going to take your dog out in the world, make sure that you have some time to be able to just solely focus on them and not everything else that's going on, because we want to make it a positive experience.
00:38:19.812 --> 00:38:23.252
Hannah Alsup: The more you take them out, the more enjoyable it is for the both of you.
00:38:23.432 --> 00:38:27.832
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, checking ourselves probably has a lot to do with it too.
00:38:27.832 --> 00:38:46.332
Isabel Alvarez Arata: A lot of these behaviors when it comes to fear, and I know because my fearful girl over here who's yawning right now, appeasing over there, it's very easy to be like, come on, let's go, don't be scared of the pile, it's fine.
00:38:46.332 --> 00:38:53.692
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But I feel like they pick up on that and it's probably counterproductive for us to be a little irritated when they show these behaviors.
00:38:53.692 --> 00:38:54.732
Hannah Alsup: Absolutely.
00:38:54.732 --> 00:38:55.852
Hannah Alsup: That brings up a great point.
00:38:55.852 --> 00:39:13.652
Hannah Alsup: I always just tell my clients to make sure whatever you do, it doesn't matter what it is, whether that's sitting outside in the front porch, drinking coffee and just watching the world go by, or if I'm going to take my dog to my kid's soccer game and we're going to work through exposing them through that, make sure it's enjoyable for you and the dog.
00:39:13.652 --> 00:39:17.092
Hannah Alsup: Because if it's not enjoyable for you, the dog is going to feel that.
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Hannah Alsup: Sometimes they're like, well, I don't really want to continue to do this because it's not fun.
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Hannah Alsup: I feel that you are frustrated or we do get on to them because we're like, hey, we're at a baseball game, you won't sit down, just sit down.
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Hannah Alsup: So make sure that you have the time to want to focus on them.
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Hannah Alsup: Make sure it's something that you are enjoying because it's only going to make your relationship better in the long run.
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Hannah Alsup: It's going to make spending time with your dog and doing those activities more fun and craveable not only for you but also your dog.
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Hannah Alsup: Looking forward to that during the day where you're like, hey, it's that time that we normally get to do that fun day, let's go do it.
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Hannah Alsup: So always, always say, just make sure that you're enjoying your time with your dog, whatever that looks like.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is so good.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's actually so true about everything.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I am a parent to children and pets, and anytime that I'm rushing out the door, all of my lofty goals for parenting, pet parenting, dog training, just go out the window because I'm stressed, the pet gets stressed, the kid gets stressed.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Nothing goes the way you want it to.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So definitely make the time for these things, plan accordingly, don't rush it.
00:40:20.932 --> 00:40:27.232
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Take a deep breath because the outcome is just not going to be what you want it to be if you're just like scrambling.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It really is so hard to like put yourself in a good place when you're already stressed out and everybody's looking to you to be that like guiding light, right?
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Hannah Alsup: Absolutely, absolutely.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Alright, so how can my audience learn more about you and all the wonderful things that you can teach them?
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Hannah Alsup: Yeah, so right now we have a few things kind of in the works for future, but right now you can always find us and access us at 3dogpet.com or on Instagram.
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Hannah Alsup: We have other social media platforms popping up soon as well as hoping to do some online dog training, whether that's just a course that you can purchase and take as you go or doing like Zoom meetings like this.
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Hannah Alsup: I'm hoping that that'll start to become available to clients in the next few months.
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Hannah Alsup: And then we're even looking at possibly purchasing a facility.
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Hannah Alsup: But while those things are in the process, 3dogpet.com is a perfect place to access us.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is so cool to have a facility where you could play those YouTube videos and have like the ideal dog, the dog that's super socialized kind of model the behavior for other dogs.
00:41:29.992 --> 00:41:40.712
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I feel like there's so many things you can do with fear and helping dogs with their fear in a group setting under the right circumstance with the right leader, you.
00:41:40.712 --> 00:41:45.972
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Making sure that everybody's comfortable, observing everybody's body language, human and canine.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think it's such a great idea.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I wish you nothing but the best in all of these plans.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Please let me know how I can support you.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I just want to propose to us to you and everything that you're doing for the pets in your area.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cheers.
00:41:58.052 --> 00:41:58.772
Hannah Alsup: Cheers.
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Hannah Alsup: Thank you.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: No, thank you.
00:42:00.512 --> 00:42:02.012
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Seriously, for being my guest.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've so enjoyed our chat.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It really is such an important topic.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I also want to propose a toast to our executive producer, Mark Winter.
00:42:08.932 --> 00:42:09.892
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you, Mark.
00:42:09.892 --> 00:42:13.372
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And to our audience for joining us for these awesome conversations.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: If you enjoyed this podcast, we have so many experts talking about pet-specific concerns like fear, separation anxiety, nutrition, all the things that you're curious about.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: My podcast has been in this fun, enjoyable movie format.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So make sure that you listen to past episodes, like and subscribe.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Rate this podcast if you enjoyed it and make sure that you follow Hannah for all the awesome things that she's coming up her way, because I have no doubt that she's going to be somebody that we look to for dog guidance for a long time to come.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So here's to a life covered in pet hair because there's no better way to live.
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Hannah Alsup: Cheers.
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Hannah Alsup: Thank you so much for having me.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh my gosh.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's my pleasure.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thank you so much for being here.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I also want to remind you if you want to learn more about covered in pet hair, please visit coveredinpethair.com or petliferadio.com.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thanks for watching and for listening on Pet Life Radio and on all the podcasting platforms.
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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I will see you next time.
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