Covered In Pet Hair

In today's episode, Isabel interviews Rob Kovler, CEO of Therapetixx. Therapetixx is a brand of plant-based pet products that offer therapies for common pet ailments. In the episode, Isabel asks Rob to identify key differences in the way in which conventional veterinary medicine approaches pet-related health conditions and how a holistic approach might look. Together, Isabel and Rob learn what makes grass turn yellow and burn when a pet pees on it and how this unsightly side effect of having a dog can be remedied. Because people love their pets and their lawns, Therapetixx designed a product to keep the grass greener and grasses thriving. Enjoy!

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BIO:

Robert Kovler is the CEO of Therapetixx, a brand of pet care products that offers natural solutions for dogs, cats, horses, and other companion animals. Their products are formulated by veterinary holistic specialists and offer a variety of targeted therapies including supplements for gut health, skin and allergies, immune system support, and joint health, calming and behavioral aids, urinary tract support products, ear cleansers, skin and eye care products, and a line of puppy and adult vitamins and senior care products.

Transcript:

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And today, I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with a pet parent, an inventor, a researcher, an entrepreneur.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's a foodie, a world traveler, and an expert on pharmacognosy.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is originally from Queens, New York, and lives in Westchester County, New York.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He has a girlfriend named Marissa and a pit bull named Amber.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: He is the founder and CEO of Therapetixx, a line of holistic pet products that is formulated for various health and behavioral conditions in dogs, cats, horses, and exotic.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: His name is Robert Kovler.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome, Robert.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's so good to have you on the show.

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Robert Kovler: Well, thank you.

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Robert Kovler: It's a pleasure to be here.

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Robert Kovler: I'm excited.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Did I pronounce your last name okay?

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Robert Kovler: It's good enough.

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Robert Kovler: It's Kovler.

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Robert Kovler: It's Kovler.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Robert Kovler.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Can I call you Rob?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Let's keep it cash here, Rob.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have so many questions for you about your new line and your 25 plus years in the pet industry.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before I ask you all those questions, I want to introduce our drinking game today.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Anybody at home participating in our drinking game, anytime you hear this word, "the secret word is greener".

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Take a drink of whatever you're enjoying, booze it up if you're boozy, have a sip of tea if you're not boozy.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But whatever you do, do not drink and drive.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Always drink responsibly and be of age wherever you're joining us from.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: There'll be time to drink when you're of age.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Don't rush it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So what are you having today, Rob?

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Robert Kovler: I am having a Cuba Libra.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Cuba Libra.

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Robert Kovler: Yeah.

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Robert Kovler: So that's a good guessing.

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Robert Kovler: I don't know.

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Robert Kovler: Most people don't know what a Cuba Libra is.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, I grew up in Miami.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Of course I know what a Cuba Libra is.

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Robert Kovler: Yes.

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Robert Kovler: By the sound of your last name, you better know what it is.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

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Robert Kovler: Or we're kicking you out of the tribe.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I have to turn in my Latina card.

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Robert Kovler: Oh, I love the way you said Latina.

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Robert Kovler: So it is a Roman Coke, little piece of lime, a couple of ice cubes in there.

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Robert Kovler: You don't want to dilute it too much.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: No.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What's your favorite rum?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you have a favorite rum that you drink?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you a Bacardi guy or something different?

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Robert Kovler: You know what?

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Robert Kovler: I like a good Jamaican rum.

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Robert Kovler: So Bacardi, as you know, is a Puerto Rican rum, which is excellent.

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Robert Kovler: Excellent rum.

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Robert Kovler: I like Bacardi black, but I like a nice Jamaican rum.

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Robert Kovler: I like tasting different rums.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I agree.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think rum is a great spirit.

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Robert Kovler: Yeah, I'm not set on one particular rum.

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Robert Kovler: You know, I like to try different things, like whiskeys, you know, it's like whiskeys, right?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, I agree.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't drink whisky, but I get like the fascination with trying different ones.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And there's such a way I just did an episode with Sid Chonch, who founded Booze for Paws, and they have different whiskeys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And we I learned all about whiskeys.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I couldn't tell you what it was because I didn't retain any of it, because I'm not a whiskey drinker.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But if you are a whiskey drinker, that is an episode everybody has to watch because Sid gives 100% of his Booze for Paws sales to Animal Rescue.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So he is a super cool guy and he is an expert on whiskey.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I'm drinking gin and tonic today because I just got back from Spain and the best place to get a gin and tonic is Spain.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So cheers, Rob.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thanks for being on the show.

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Robert Kovler: Cheers that is true.

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Robert Kovler: I'm going to drink to that.

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Robert Kovler: Marisa and I actually went to Spain to Sevilla and to Barcelona last October and she is a huge gin and tonic person.

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Robert Kovler: So I knew you guys would connect some way, you know, so I agree with that.

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Robert Kovler: I agree.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, if you have not had a gin and tonic in Spain, it's the first thing you do when you get off that plane.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't care what time it is.

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Robert Kovler: Absolutely.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, Rob, I have a game.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I always introduce the show with a game and the first game is actually a pretty interesting game.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I think a lot of our pet parents can learn the difference between holistic veterinary approaches and conventional veterinary approaches.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: And because you have a line that is formulated by holistic veterinarians, I would love to hear your input on how the holistic veterinarian would handle something differently from a conventional veterinarian.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So are you ready to play?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's called Holistic vs Conventional.

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Robert Kovler: Let's do it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Alright, the first ailment that I want your input on is arthritis.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How would a holistic veterinarian handle vs a conventional veterinarian?

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Robert Kovler: Sure.

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Robert Kovler: Oh, that's a really good one.

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Robert Kovler: So a holistic…well, let's go with the traditional general practitioner who knows Western medicine.

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Robert Kovler: They went to school to learn this.

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Robert Kovler: By the way, a lot of doctors right now, it's a prerequisite for them to learn holistic and natural medicine right now.

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Robert Kovler: And that has only happened like in the past like 6 to maybe 10 years, but it's very big right now.

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Robert Kovler: But with that particular subject, and this is a good one, a lot of Western medicine is based on like pharmaceutical medicine, gabapentin.

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Robert Kovler: Gabapentin and you know, when given by actually a doctor, a veterinarian, it can make dogs a little lethargic, and it's one of the big things you're always going to hear.

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Robert Kovler: So if there's anybody in your audience, which I'm sure there's many, gabapentin is actually one of the biggest pharmaceutical medications that are being sold right now through doctors.

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Robert Kovler: It's also happens to be used for other things like seizures.

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Robert Kovler: And that's what it was originally made to do for seizures.

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Robert Kovler: And so they found that gabapentin works really well.

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Robert Kovler: Also doctors with rimidil.

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Robert Kovler: Rimidil is a very, very big drug out there.

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Robert Kovler: You also have medicam.

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Robert Kovler: Medicam is given to more like cats to feline instead of dogs.

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Robert Kovler: They give them the rimidil, gabapentin, duramax, which is another product made by Norvatus.

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Robert Kovler: So, an eastern medicine doctor, a holistic doctor, they would go of the more natural approach.

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Robert Kovler: And what we've been finding when a product is really made very well, a holistic product, a natural product, and with proven clinical ingredients that are going there like glutosamine, chondroitin sulfate, ashwagandha is another big one.

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Robert Kovler: It actually happens to help just as well.

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Robert Kovler: And you have to give that a few more days or weeks to work, unlike a pharmaceutical medication.

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Robert Kovler: And a lot of it has to do, believe it or not, with the client.

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Robert Kovler: The doctor knows these things.

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Robert Kovler: So they want to give something that the client could see the dog or the cat.

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Robert Kovler: The pet parent wants to see that dog or cat out of pain immediately.

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Robert Kovler: Yes.

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Robert Kovler: So that is my take.

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Robert Kovler: So like, for example, our product has a lot of natural medicinal herbs in there and proven ingredients.

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Robert Kovler: So that's the way we always go.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How about for stomach upset?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What would your traditional Western vet get versus a holistic vet?

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Robert Kovler: Well, something really simple for stomach upset, they would actually get Pepto-Bismol.

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Robert Kovler: Yep.

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Robert Kovler: They get Pepto-Bismol in a lot of ways when there's a stomach upset.

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Robert Kovler: Really they don't want to give, and if you really think about this logically, they don't want to give anything too hard on the stomach.

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Robert Kovler: So they don't want to upset the stomach any more than it is already.

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Robert Kovler: So the thing is that now we have these doctors that are learning about natural medicine.

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Robert Kovler: And so what we really do for a stomach upset, use these words like diarrhea, any kind of gastrointestinal pain.

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Robert Kovler: And actually one of the big things is that meds, as I was saying, cause a lot of stomach upset to start off with.

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Robert Kovler: And then the pet parent goes in and says, my dog has diarrhea.

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Robert Kovler: Well, guess what it's from?

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Robert Kovler: The medicines, the pharmaceuticals, and especially older dogs can't really handle it too well.

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Robert Kovler: So, they would give a pro or prebiotic or both, which is the best thing to do.

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Robert Kovler: Also like sweet potato is excellent to give.

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Robert Kovler: Again, these are some of the things that we use in our products.

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Robert Kovler: And again, with us being around for so long, we know what to do at this point.

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Robert Kovler: We better know what to do after 22 years.

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Robert Kovler: So at any rate, so that is on that side of the coin.

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Robert Kovler: So like a very good pro and prebiotic.

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Robert Kovler: Yeah, absolutely.

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Robert Kovler: And obviously, you know, when your dog has a stomach ache, and if the grass is out there, they start eating grass.

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Robert Kovler: They instinctively know to start eating grass.

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Robert Kovler: Very unusual, but it is true.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So do we let them eat the grass?

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Robert Kovler: I wouldn't let my dog eat the grass.

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Robert Kovler: And I'll tell you why.

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Robert Kovler: You don't know what other dog has passed it.

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Robert Kovler: I'll put it nice and plain like that.

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Robert Kovler: But also, there's another reason, you know, again, logically thinking, we don't know what kind of pesticides is on it.

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Robert Kovler: You know, if you're walking your dog down your beautiful lane and the dog goes off really quickly and starts eating the grass, we don't know what that person did, you know, pesticides or anything.

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Robert Kovler: We're hoping they're not using that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's exactly why I don't allow, we don't use any herbicides.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So we don't use like Roundup or anything like that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: But we do spray for mosquitoes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: So whenever I see my dog eating grass, I'm like, eat out of here.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Because yeah, I don't want her ingesting that stuff, which is not a good idea.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Alright, next one is anxiety.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How do you see traditional vets dealing with anxiety and how is it different for holistic vets?

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Robert Kovler: Well, you know, with anxiety, there's a number of things they could use.

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Robert Kovler: Gabapentin, believe it or not, is also used.

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Robert Kovler: It's, you know, Gabapentin is almost like a shotgun approach to everything.

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Robert Kovler: And what happens, and I hate to say this, doctors use it off label sometimes.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right.

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Robert Kovler: Well, most of the time.

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Robert Kovler: So they use that.

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Robert Kovler: But what we're doing right now on the holistic side, we're working with CBD.

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Robert Kovler: We've been, you know, being that we are experts in pharmacognosy, which is the study of medicinal plants.

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Robert Kovler: We would have had CBD a long, long time ago, but it was illegal, as you have.

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Robert Kovler: A lot of the laws have eased up right now.

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Robert Kovler: And you know what?

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Robert Kovler: A lot of people, and I like to say this really quickly, a lot of people, they don't understand what CBD is.

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Robert Kovler: They think it's marijuana.

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Robert Kovler: So there's two different plants, actually.

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Robert Kovler: There's the marijuana plant, and then you got extract, you got a hemp extract.

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Robert Kovler: Exactly.

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Robert Kovler: Hemp extract, you know, hemp has been used for 100 years for rope, for soap, salad dressing, so on and so forth.

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Robert Kovler: So CBD is very big, you know, it's another thing that we use.

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Robert Kovler: But there are people that don't understand CBD, and they want to stay away from it.

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Robert Kovler: They think it's marijuana.

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Robert Kovler: It's not.

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Robert Kovler: It has to be under a particular THC level for it to be legal.

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Robert Kovler: So there's other things that you could use, which is ashwagandha.

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Robert Kovler: You could use, as we all know, in Turkey, is tryptophan.

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Robert Kovler: And it should be called L, capital L, hyphen tryptophan.

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Robert Kovler: That's the type you want to use in a calming formula, again, with ashwagandha and go the natural route.

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Robert Kovler: And you would be really shocked of how well these work.

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Robert Kovler: And it also depends, you know, what you're using it for, for anxiety, for stress.

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Robert Kovler: So there's a lot of things, especially stress-related issues with people going back to work right now.

00:14:09.695 --> 00:14:11.115
Robert Kovler: It's a big thing.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, moving and new baby and going back to work and any kind of change in the routine.

00:14:18.535 --> 00:14:27.675
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I love those, those holistic approaches because they're so subtle sometimes and they address what you need to address, but they don't like knock the dog out.

00:14:27.695 --> 00:14:32.595
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I had a dog on some kind of pharmaceutical tranquilizer once for a road trip.

00:14:33.155 --> 00:14:36.015
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And for 24 hours, this was the first time we gave her it.

00:14:36.935 --> 00:14:38.815
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And she was like walking into walls.

00:14:38.835 --> 00:14:45.135
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She was so like, you know, and it turns out as we learned about her, she was very sensitive to medication.

00:14:45.155 --> 00:14:48.895
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So even like antibiotics and stuff, even though she was a big dog, she was very sensitive.

00:14:48.915 --> 00:14:54.555
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you don't know about these things, but when it comes to holistic products, you can kind of start slow.

00:14:54.775 --> 00:14:56.135
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You can see how they react.

00:14:56.155 --> 00:14:58.895
Isabel Alvarez Arata: You can start like a couple months before the move.

00:14:58.915 --> 00:15:03.415
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So you can start preventing the anxiety before you even make the move.

00:15:03.415 --> 00:15:08.555
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So I really like the, I have an anxious dog and we use a lot of holistic options here.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:15:09.275 --> 00:15:12.355
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So the next one is pain, chronic pain.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: How do other than gabapentin, how do conventional vets deal with chronic pain?

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Robert Kovler: Well, you know, it's the same thing when you look at chronic pain in an animal in any type of a pet, we have to identify what a doctor is going to do.

00:15:28.115 --> 00:15:29.275
Robert Kovler: What kind of pain is it?

00:15:29.275 --> 00:15:31.095
Robert Kovler: Was it because of an accident?

00:15:31.575 --> 00:15:31.955
Robert Kovler: Right?

00:15:32.335 --> 00:15:42.935
Robert Kovler: It could also be pain is old age, you know, when dogs, when a dog is actually about a year, a year and a half, they're considered an adult dog.

00:15:42.955 --> 00:15:44.155
Robert Kovler: They're not a puppy anymore.

00:15:44.495 --> 00:15:47.535
Robert Kovler: Even though we always like to think they're a puppy, you know, it's like your child.

00:15:47.815 --> 00:15:49.735
Robert Kovler: Yeah, they're always your baby, you know.

00:15:50.295 --> 00:15:56.735
Robert Kovler: But in reality, a dog, once they go over a year, a year and a half, they're considered an adult dog.

00:15:57.135 --> 00:16:06.035
Robert Kovler: But there's many clinical studies out of Tufts University, out of Cornell Veterinary Medicine, which again, we are also a scientific company.

00:16:06.055 --> 00:16:07.275
Robert Kovler: We look at these things.

00:16:07.775 --> 00:16:10.175
Robert Kovler: And they're very important that they're evaluated.

00:16:10.575 --> 00:16:16.655
Robert Kovler: What ends up happening is pain is, you know, they'll use gabapentin, they'll use rimidil.

00:16:17.335 --> 00:16:32.695
Robert Kovler: And if I may say for an older dog, which is about 10 years of age, there is going to be, there are clinical studies, nine out of 10 dogs, age 10 or 11, will have some form of an arthritic condition.

00:16:32.935 --> 00:16:35.675
Robert Kovler: It's hard to take notice of these things sometimes.

00:16:36.055 --> 00:16:40.695
Robert Kovler: So though a traditional doctor will give gabapentin, rimidil, duramax.

00:16:41.515 --> 00:16:44.795
Robert Kovler: And again, the same subject we were talking about is CBD.

00:16:46.455 --> 00:16:50.835
Robert Kovler: People are using CBD, which is really very big right now.

00:16:51.555 --> 00:16:58.235
Robert Kovler: And I'm going to let you know, anybody in your audience that is looking at CBD, I want to tell you something very important.

00:16:58.655 --> 00:17:13.235
Robert Kovler: Whoever you get it from, make sure when you go on their website, they have a third-party analysis on the CBD for heavy metals, or for any yeast, mold, all these things.

00:17:13.475 --> 00:17:17.075
Robert Kovler: And pesticides, we were just talking about pesticides.

00:17:17.535 --> 00:17:23.895
Robert Kovler: When a hemp extract from a hemp plant, a lot of people use pesticides on this.

00:17:24.075 --> 00:17:26.935
Robert Kovler: So you want to get an organic type of CBD.

00:17:27.195 --> 00:17:30.435
Robert Kovler: So these are things that you should definitely look out for.

00:17:30.455 --> 00:17:36.615
Robert Kovler: So a little tip for your audience, whoever you buy it from, make sure they're reputable.

00:17:37.135 --> 00:17:46.235
Robert Kovler: They've been around for a little while, and they have something called the third-party analysis, and always look at the date.

00:17:46.395 --> 00:17:52.475
Robert Kovler: If the date on the third-party analysis says four or five years ago, then it's not an updated one.

00:17:52.835 --> 00:17:53.335
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right.

00:17:53.455 --> 00:17:53.795
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah.

00:17:53.815 --> 00:17:55.655
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's probably not the product they're selling.

00:17:55.675 --> 00:17:56.155
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So yeah.

00:17:56.755 --> 00:17:57.475
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Last one.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Chronic UTIs.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: What's the difference of approach between a holistic vet and a conventional vet?

00:18:05.475 --> 00:18:10.735
Robert Kovler: So, this is the one besides pain management in dogs and cats.

00:18:11.575 --> 00:18:13.275
Robert Kovler: This is the biggest one.

00:18:13.875 --> 00:18:24.295
Robert Kovler: 35 million dogs out of the 68 to 70 million dogs have some type of a urinary, kidney or bladder issue.

00:18:24.835 --> 00:18:30.435
Robert Kovler: It is one of the top diseases in feline health that doctors deal with.

00:18:31.335 --> 00:18:45.715
Robert Kovler: So, a veterinarian, again, tries to do an approach, and I'm going to give your audience a couple of tips because I speak to so many pet parents and they're very confused about certain things.

00:18:45.735 --> 00:18:47.815
Robert Kovler: So, I'm going to tell you really quickly about that.

00:18:48.015 --> 00:18:52.015
Robert Kovler: What a doctor is basically going to use is an antibiotic.

00:18:53.335 --> 00:18:54.375
Robert Kovler: Or you're in their tracks.

00:18:54.395 --> 00:19:05.855
Robert Kovler: So, you're very familiar with this and I want to let you know something, and this is to educate your audience and I really want them to understand this because it's of key importance.

00:19:06.495 --> 00:19:14.555
Robert Kovler: There's something called in human medicine and in animal health called antibiotic resistance.

00:19:15.375 --> 00:19:23.515
Robert Kovler: I could guarantee you, you could open up any major newspaper, any article, go on as I like to say Dr.

00:19:23.535 --> 00:19:29.915
Robert Kovler: Google and you could type it in and you could read about antibiotic resistance and how does this happen.

00:19:30.215 --> 00:19:43.255
Robert Kovler: Doctors in veterinary, I hate to say this, and in human medicine will give you an antibiotic before understanding if it's a bacterial infection.

00:19:44.135 --> 00:19:50.755
Robert Kovler: An antibiotic does not work on a viral infection, it only works on a bacterial infection.

00:19:51.375 --> 00:20:06.835
Robert Kovler: So here's the tip, do not accept an antibiotic unless the doctor tells you in veterinary and human medicine that they know absolutely sure that it happens to be a bacterial infection.

00:20:07.295 --> 00:20:09.195
Robert Kovler: So let me tell you what doctors do.

00:20:09.535 --> 00:20:19.735
Robert Kovler: And again, I'm not trying to hurt my community, I love the veterinary community, they're incredible people, they really are, and they need to be a detective.

00:20:20.495 --> 00:20:24.355
Robert Kovler: You know, veterinarians are detectives, you and I say what's hurting us.

00:20:25.035 --> 00:20:31.035
Robert Kovler: But a poor animal, a poor pet cannot, right?

00:20:31.575 --> 00:20:40.335
Robert Kovler: So a doctor is going to give a client an antibiotic before they do and get the results back.

00:20:41.155 --> 00:20:44.975
Robert Kovler: You also want to do something called a proper culture.

00:20:45.715 --> 00:20:46.755
Robert Kovler: And they're expensive.

00:20:46.775 --> 00:20:52.295
Robert Kovler: They're anywhere from $100 to $150, $75, depending on where you live.

00:20:52.315 --> 00:20:55.415
Robert Kovler: If you live in Beverly Hills, it's $200.

00:20:55.635 --> 00:20:55.995
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:20:57.315 --> 00:20:59.435
Robert Kovler: But you get the basic idea.

00:20:59.595 --> 00:21:03.195
Robert Kovler: But it's so important that the doctor does a culture.

00:21:03.395 --> 00:21:04.435
Robert Kovler: And what is a culture?

00:21:04.815 --> 00:21:21.835
Robert Kovler: A doctor or a technician is going to, I know this is not going to sound pretty, is going to take, but I have to tell you, they're going to take a needle, put it into the bladder wall, and that is the, and extrude the urine, and now it's sterile.

00:21:21.955 --> 00:21:30.535
Robert Kovler: They put it into a Petri dish, they send it out, a culture, they get the results back, and then that's when you should get the antibiotic.

00:21:31.195 --> 00:21:32.335
Robert Kovler: Not beforehand.

00:21:32.635 --> 00:21:41.855
Robert Kovler: And never allow an office or a clinic to collect urine from an exam table or ask you to collect it in your house.

00:21:42.255 --> 00:21:42.475
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right.

00:21:42.495 --> 00:21:46.235
Robert Kovler: Because it could be compromised, and you won't get a perfect reading.

00:21:46.635 --> 00:21:48.735
Robert Kovler: So that's a really big tip.

00:21:49.435 --> 00:22:01.035
Robert Kovler: And again, cranberry extract, as far as a holistic, D-Manos is very good, nettle leaf is excellent, dandelion whole plant.

00:22:01.675 --> 00:22:14.055
Robert Kovler: Again I'm telling you all these because this is what we put in our formulas, among other things, to really combat the whole picture what's going on.

00:22:14.455 --> 00:22:17.735
Robert Kovler: So I hope that helped your audience as far as an antibiotic.

00:22:18.435 --> 00:22:23.915
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, I had a dog, Sox, that is her paw print right there.

00:22:24.155 --> 00:22:27.175
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She has since passed, but that is her paw print.

00:22:27.555 --> 00:22:29.735
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And Sox had chronic UTIs.

00:22:30.155 --> 00:22:34.955
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She had a physical anatomical reason for them.

00:22:35.535 --> 00:22:38.175
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And she should have had surgery as a puppy.

00:22:38.435 --> 00:22:41.675
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I won't go into the details because it's unnecessary.

00:22:41.695 --> 00:22:46.615
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But she had an anatomical reason why bacteria and such was trapped.

00:22:46.615 --> 00:22:49.935
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I had three veterinarians be like, she doesn't need the surgery.

00:22:49.955 --> 00:22:50.915
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She doesn't need the surgery.

00:22:51.235 --> 00:22:54.355
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They just kept treating her with antibiotics, treating her with antibiotics.

00:22:54.355 --> 00:22:58.975
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She got to the point where the antibiotics would destroy her stomach and she wouldn't be growing up.

00:22:59.255 --> 00:23:04.695
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it would so upset her stomach that we had to go with a different one.

00:23:04.715 --> 00:23:06.935
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then we're starting and finishing courses.

00:23:06.935 --> 00:23:13.155
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I don't think she lived her life as long as she otherwise would have based on the fact that we gave her so many antibiotics.

00:23:13.415 --> 00:23:14.035
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you know what?

00:23:14.055 --> 00:23:18.895
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Finally at eight years old, I met a veterinarian that said, why haven't you done the surgery?

00:23:18.915 --> 00:23:21.855
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I was like, well, they told me it was like kind of a big deal.

00:23:22.235 --> 00:23:23.235
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It wasn't a big deal.

00:23:23.235 --> 00:23:25.055
Isabel Alvarez Arata: She was fine two days later.

00:23:25.075 --> 00:23:33.795
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, it looked kind of crazy at first, but let's just say that I paid $1,500 to give my dog a booty lift, but it solved the problem.

00:23:33.815 --> 00:23:43.615
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I wish I had done the booty lift when she was six months instead of when she was eight or nine when I finally did it after what was easily a quarterly course of antibiotics.

00:23:43.815 --> 00:23:45.895
Robert Kovler: Well, you know, I'm glad you brought that up.

00:23:45.975 --> 00:23:49.475
Robert Kovler: And real quickly, that is the easiest way.

00:23:50.035 --> 00:23:52.615
Robert Kovler: And we spoke about this early on.

00:23:52.635 --> 00:23:56.175
Robert Kovler: It is for the pet, but the doctor should not be doing that.

00:23:56.195 --> 00:23:56.915
Robert Kovler: They know better.

00:23:57.275 --> 00:23:58.995
Robert Kovler: That's Veterinary Medicine 101.

00:23:59.015 --> 00:24:00.495
Robert Kovler: But you know who it's really for?

00:24:00.655 --> 00:24:01.395
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The pet parents.

00:24:01.495 --> 00:24:02.035
Robert Kovler: That's right.

00:24:02.335 --> 00:24:09.455
Robert Kovler: Because they beg when a dog or a cat is urinating out of the box, the dog is urinating all over the place.

00:24:09.755 --> 00:24:11.635
Robert Kovler: Or the dog can't urinate.

00:24:12.035 --> 00:24:15.955
Robert Kovler: It's with a calcium, they're called calcium oxalate stones.

00:24:16.315 --> 00:24:22.195
Robert Kovler: And then when you treat like this, let me tell you, you got away really inexpensively.

00:24:22.215 --> 00:24:23.635
Robert Kovler: $1500.

00:24:23.915 --> 00:24:26.775
Robert Kovler: You know that and you're smiling because you know that.

00:24:26.935 --> 00:24:40.215
Robert Kovler: There are people that spend thousands of dollars, max out their credit cards, God bless them, because they will do more for their pet than they will do for themselves.

00:24:41.055 --> 00:24:46.475
Robert Kovler: And they get into a big bill and they still don't take care of the problem.

00:24:46.915 --> 00:24:52.595
Robert Kovler: And then they finally realize, let me try a product for urinary tract disease.

00:24:52.715 --> 00:24:55.455
Robert Kovler: And lo and behold, a really good product, they work.

00:24:57.195 --> 00:25:00.615
Robert Kovler: You can never really guarantee that a holistic product is going to work.

00:25:01.015 --> 00:25:04.755
Robert Kovler: But to be on the safe side, you use it and you see what happens.

00:25:05.115 --> 00:25:09.155
Robert Kovler: I'd rather not go the antibiotic route.

00:25:09.295 --> 00:25:09.875
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Absolutely.

00:25:09.895 --> 00:25:16.215
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And you know, it's funny, because of her anatomy, there was always bacteria there, but it wasn't necessarily an infection.

00:25:16.415 --> 00:25:19.575
Isabel Alvarez Arata: The bacteria was present, but it wasn't necessarily systemic.

00:25:23.795 --> 00:25:26.015
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it was something that taught me so much.

00:25:26.035 --> 00:25:30.575
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And the procedure she got was a pesioplasty.

00:25:30.755 --> 00:25:32.495
Robert Kovler: Yes, very good.

00:25:32.655 --> 00:25:42.735
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And let me tell you, if I had known that the booty lift was going to save her from all of this nonsense, I would have done it so much earlier, but I guess it was just easier.

00:25:42.815 --> 00:25:54.555
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They thought it was easier for me as a pet parent to just give her a round of antibiotics instead of putting her under and having her undergo this surgery, which as a professional pet person, it wasn't really that serious a surgery.

00:25:54.575 --> 00:26:03.715
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I've seen much more serious surgeries because I used to take care of dogs with ACL and surgeries where they couldn't move for a year.

00:26:03.735 --> 00:26:06.995
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So this was really like the post-op of this was a breeze.

00:26:07.315 --> 00:26:11.315
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, anyway, I want to learn about you and how long you've been in the pet industry.

00:26:11.335 --> 00:26:18.275
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know Therapetixx is relatively new, but you have another company and you yourself have been around for a while.

00:26:18.295 --> 00:26:18.935
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell us about that.

00:26:19.155 --> 00:26:20.435
Robert Kovler: I've been around for a while.

00:26:20.595 --> 00:26:24.455
Robert Kovler: Most of my 35-year career has been in the vet business.

00:26:24.475 --> 00:26:33.075
Robert Kovler: So I've dealt with a lot of experts, a lot of doctors in the veterinary field, orthopedic surgeons, gastroenterologists, urologists.

00:26:33.655 --> 00:26:36.735
Robert Kovler: It's really wonderful because really you learn a lot.

00:26:36.735 --> 00:26:40.315
Robert Kovler: So I've been in that field for 35 years and presently.

00:26:40.915 --> 00:26:45.475
Robert Kovler: I started my company and I'll tell you why I started my company.

00:26:45.495 --> 00:26:49.235
Robert Kovler: I was working for a pathology lab just very quickly.

00:26:49.435 --> 00:26:55.175
Robert Kovler: Unfortunately, when you work for somebody, sometimes they don't do right by you.

00:26:55.195 --> 00:27:01.715
Robert Kovler: I decided to start a company back in 2001 out of Brooklyn, New York.

00:27:02.215 --> 00:27:04.015
Robert Kovler: That's where I was living at the time.

00:27:04.035 --> 00:27:08.775
Robert Kovler: I really wanted to do something that I knew what to do.

00:27:09.155 --> 00:27:13.315
Robert Kovler: I had an expertise in it and the doctors all knew me.

00:27:13.495 --> 00:27:14.455
Robert Kovler: They trusted me.

00:27:14.475 --> 00:27:18.475
Robert Kovler: They know if I'm coming to see them, I had something.

00:27:18.795 --> 00:27:23.855
Robert Kovler: So I decided to eat macaroni salad and tuna fish.

00:27:24.235 --> 00:27:28.835
Robert Kovler: I make a really excellent macaroni salad and tuna fish for one year.

00:27:30.155 --> 00:27:31.355
Robert Kovler: Pretty close to it.

00:27:31.815 --> 00:27:34.315
Robert Kovler: My friends felt sorry for me.

00:27:34.335 --> 00:27:38.095
Robert Kovler: They took me out to a steak dinner and maybe Taco Bell every now and then.

00:27:39.435 --> 00:27:44.135
Robert Kovler: I actually had some very good friends invest in me and my business.

00:27:44.615 --> 00:27:50.215
Robert Kovler: I'm going to tell you when I started my company out of Brooklyn, New York, September 1st, 2001.

00:27:50.335 --> 00:27:50.715
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Nice.

00:27:51.555 --> 00:27:54.575
Robert Kovler: Then 10 days later was 9-11.

00:27:54.835 --> 00:27:55.575
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Oh, no.

00:27:56.295 --> 00:27:59.115
Robert Kovler: So it was very tough.

00:27:59.135 --> 00:28:02.955
Robert Kovler: Even thinking about it right now, it was very tough to do it.

00:28:03.175 --> 00:28:18.735
Robert Kovler: But I decided that I really wanted to go forward, and I was doing a good thing because I think we could look at it as like the pandemic that we had COVID that people really needed their pets.

00:28:18.755 --> 00:28:27.155
Robert Kovler: It was a time when people really needed to have solace, to have their pets because it brings back a lot of memories for me.

00:28:27.235 --> 00:28:27.855
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Of course.

00:28:28.155 --> 00:28:30.355
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Having been in New York when it happened.

00:28:30.375 --> 00:28:31.495
Robert Kovler: Having been in New York.

00:28:31.515 --> 00:28:36.015
Robert Kovler: Having been in New York, I've actually, you know, yeah, it was, it was bad.

00:28:36.255 --> 00:28:37.875
Robert Kovler: And, but we all came together.

00:28:38.275 --> 00:28:41.035
Robert Kovler: And what we did have is we had our pets with us.

00:28:41.295 --> 00:28:41.675
Robert Kovler: Yes.

00:28:41.755 --> 00:28:46.795
Robert Kovler: And we all, even people that were lonely, they needed, they needed something.

00:28:47.195 --> 00:28:49.515
Robert Kovler: They needed, they needed their companion.

00:28:50.555 --> 00:28:54.075
Robert Kovler: And so we went forward.

00:28:54.375 --> 00:29:00.195
Robert Kovler: We had a little bit of a tough time in the beginning, but we prevailed because of the situation.

00:29:00.575 --> 00:29:06.515
Robert Kovler: And now 22 years later, I still have that company, Animal Nutritional Products, that is going strong.

00:29:06.975 --> 00:29:12.375
Robert Kovler: And that product, Animal Nutritional, is geared more towards the veterinary community.

00:29:12.915 --> 00:29:14.655
Robert Kovler: Hospitals, animal hospitals.

00:29:14.815 --> 00:29:30.435
Robert Kovler: So about two and a half years ago, I decided to work with some holistic vets who are experts in every single field on what we do, every single product, gut health, urinary, joint, so on and so forth.

00:29:31.035 --> 00:29:34.655
Robert Kovler: Mushroom products for immune health.

00:29:37.255 --> 00:29:46.995
Robert Kovler: So I decided to make sure that anybody, with any budget, could afford a top quality product.

00:29:47.615 --> 00:29:57.275
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We do need to take a break here, and when we come back, I'm actually going to ask you, Rob, about a product for urinary health that also saves people's grafts.

00:29:57.275 --> 00:30:01.475
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So don't go anywhere, I will be right back after these messages from our sponsors.

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00:31:13.340 --> 00:31:14.960
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Welcome back to Covered In Pet Hair.

00:31:14.980 --> 00:31:16.800
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm your host, Isabel Alvarez Arata.

00:31:16.800 --> 00:31:22.840
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And today, I have the pleasure of having a drink and a chat with Robert Kovler of Therapetixx.

00:31:23.180 --> 00:31:30.100
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And he is going to tell us about this new product, or one of his new products, that has a bit of a superpower.

00:31:30.320 --> 00:31:40.640
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before we get into that, I want to actually talk to you about grass and how our dogs specifically, because most cats are not peeing on our grass.

00:31:40.820 --> 00:31:42.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Some are, but not all of them are.

00:31:43.260 --> 00:31:46.960
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And how dogs cause urine spots.

00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:54.740
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But before I actually ask you about that and your product, I want to play a game with you that it's called, and it's called Grass is Greener.

00:31:54.760 --> 00:32:06.080
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And it's a true or false game where we're going to learn about urine spots, what causes them, why they happen, why there's such a pain, what grasses are more susceptible.

00:32:06.100 --> 00:32:06.880
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Are you ready to play?

00:32:07.100 --> 00:32:08.140
Robert Kovler: Let's give it a shot.

00:32:08.560 --> 00:32:09.620
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, here we go.

00:32:11.020 --> 00:32:14.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, the first question, I think you're going to have the answer to this one.

00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:17.860
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Nitrogen in urine causes the yellowing or burning of grass.

00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:18.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: True or false?

00:32:18.840 --> 00:32:19.200
Robert Kovler: True.

00:32:19.780 --> 00:32:20.780
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is true.

00:32:21.500 --> 00:32:22.200
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is true.

00:32:22.980 --> 00:32:29.580
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's best to fertilize grass where dogs pee to prevent the urine spots.

00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:30.260
Isabel Alvarez Arata: True or false?

00:32:30.860 --> 00:32:33.180
Robert Kovler: I would say that one to fertilize it.

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.740
Robert Kovler: I would say that would be false.

00:32:36.100 --> 00:32:39.940
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That is false because it's too much nitrogen.

00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.060
Robert Kovler: Yeah, it's too much.

00:32:41.080 --> 00:32:42.420
Robert Kovler: Yeah, just yes.

00:32:43.040 --> 00:32:43.420
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:32:43.800 --> 00:32:48.020
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So it says fertilized lawns may already have as much nitrogen as they can handle.

00:32:48.040 --> 00:32:53.280
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if you add urine to the fertilized grass, now you're going to even more burning.

00:32:53.820 --> 00:32:54.220
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:32:54.580 --> 00:32:59.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Spraying areas where a dog urinates with water helps reduce the damage to the grass.

00:32:59.460 --> 00:33:00.000
Isabel Alvarez Arata: True or false?

00:33:01.220 --> 00:33:03.700
Robert Kovler: I would say that would be false.

00:33:04.700 --> 00:33:05.660
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Why do you think it's false?

00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:12.840
Robert Kovler: Well, I don't know what the purpose of that would exactly be if you're spraying it all, you know, in one spot.

00:33:13.220 --> 00:33:19.060
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I guess it's to dilute the nitrogen, but I feel like the nitrogen's already done its damage by then, right?

00:33:19.100 --> 00:33:20.080
Robert Kovler: Yeah.

00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.220
Robert Kovler: That one, I don't, you know.

00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That one, according to…

00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:25.220
Robert Kovler: We'll put it in the middle.

00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:26.220
Isabel Alvarez Arata: How about we put it in…

00:33:26.620 --> 00:33:28.020
Robert Kovler: I have to do more research.

00:33:28.460 --> 00:33:32.420
Isabel Alvarez Arata: According to my personal experience, that does not work.

00:33:34.040 --> 00:33:35.220
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This one was really interesting.

00:33:35.300 --> 00:33:36.940
Isabel Alvarez Arata: This one, I've taught me a bit.

00:33:37.780 --> 00:33:41.860
Isabel Alvarez Arata: There are urine-resistant strains of grass on the market, true or false?

00:33:42.460 --> 00:33:43.620
Robert Kovler: Urine-resistant…

00:33:43.900 --> 00:33:44.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: types of grass.

00:33:45.300 --> 00:33:55.540
Robert Kovler: I'll be honest with you, I've never heard of that before, and I would be extremely careful and I would want to know what is in the grass.

00:33:56.060 --> 00:33:56.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Okay.

00:33:56.560 --> 00:33:58.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So this is just strains of grass.

00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:08.840
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Ryegrass and fescue are the most urine-resistant types of grass, while Kentucky bluegrass and Bermuda are the most sensitive to urine and grass.

00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:10.700
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I have Bermuda, so that's good to know.

00:34:11.020 --> 00:34:11.440
Robert Kovler: Really?

00:34:11.460 --> 00:34:12.540
Robert Kovler: That's very interesting.

00:34:12.680 --> 00:34:13.300
Robert Kovler: Well, you know what?

00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.240
Robert Kovler: You're teaching me something about grass.

00:34:15.660 --> 00:34:16.300
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, I know.

00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:21.040
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I got this from, I got this from like duty calls or something like that.

00:34:21.060 --> 00:34:22.360
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Duty calls, yeah.

00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:23.480
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know who they are.

00:34:23.640 --> 00:34:24.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yeah, it's one of those…

00:34:25.200 --> 00:34:26.800
Robert Kovler: They clean up your yard full of duty.

00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:28.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Exactly.

00:34:28.180 --> 00:34:29.660
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, they had a vlog about this.

00:34:29.680 --> 00:34:30.600
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's where I got this.

00:34:31.500 --> 00:34:38.960
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But it's good to know that Bermuda is not good because I will have dogs my whole life, so I need to start thinking about planting a different strain of grass.

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:39.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:34:39.740 --> 00:34:40.140
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Here we go.

00:34:40.420 --> 00:34:44.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Your dog's hydration affects the amount of damage their urine will do to the grass.

00:34:44.420 --> 00:34:45.020
Isabel Alvarez Arata: True or false?

00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:47.440
Robert Kovler: I would say that would be false.

00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:53.100
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It's actually, according to them, true because it's more dilute, so there's less nitrogen in the urine.

00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:53.840
Robert Kovler: Hmm.

00:34:54.020 --> 00:34:54.660
Robert Kovler: Interesting.

00:34:55.240 --> 00:34:56.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I mean, we'd have to do the test.

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:57.280
Robert Kovler: I'll go with duty.

00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:57.820
Robert Kovler: I'll go with…

00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.220
Robert Kovler: Is that duty calls again?

00:34:59.240 --> 00:34:59.920
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Duty calls.

00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:01.920
Isabel Alvarez Arata: That's all of this is from duty calls, yeah?

00:35:02.340 --> 00:35:02.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right.

00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, Therapetixx has a product that reduces damage in grass.

00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:07.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell us about that.

00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:09.000
Isabel Alvarez Arata: How does it do that?

00:35:09.240 --> 00:35:11.960
Robert Kovler: It's called Greener Grass Saver Product.

00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:22.720
Robert Kovler: And what it is, it's a product to help with the urinary tract and also to lower the acidity in the urine.

00:35:22.740 --> 00:35:30.280
Robert Kovler: And so, sort of like our game we were playing, which I've learned a lot about grass, and I got a call of duty calls, you know.

00:35:32.120 --> 00:35:34.220
Robert Kovler: I should have had duty call make my product.

00:35:35.700 --> 00:35:36.960
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Well, you got to partner with them.

00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:39.340
Robert Kovler: You want to know something?

00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:40.340
Robert Kovler: That's a great idea.

00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.040
Robert Kovler: I should partner with Scots.

00:35:43.240 --> 00:35:43.600
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:44.820
Robert Kovler: Turf Builder.

00:35:45.200 --> 00:35:45.560
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:35:45.580 --> 00:35:46.440
Robert Kovler: There you go.

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:48.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Plant the grass and protect it.

00:35:48.560 --> 00:35:49.640
Robert Kovler: That's right.

00:35:49.700 --> 00:35:50.340
Robert Kovler: That's right.

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:54.960
Robert Kovler: It's going to help that blue grass and green grass and purple grass, you know?

00:35:55.240 --> 00:35:57.280
Robert Kovler: It has cranberry extract in it.

00:35:57.820 --> 00:36:00.000
Robert Kovler: It has D-Manos in it.

00:36:00.500 --> 00:36:04.580
Robert Kovler: It also helps out very, very importantly with the pH level.

00:36:05.160 --> 00:36:05.380
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:09.620
Robert Kovler: So you don't want a pH level that is too high and too low.

00:36:09.640 --> 00:36:10.980
Robert Kovler: You want a normal pH.

00:36:11.460 --> 00:36:18.280
Robert Kovler: And obviously, pet parents out there, if they're concerned about pH levels, it's very easy to test it with the sticks.

00:36:18.660 --> 00:36:18.960
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes.

00:36:18.980 --> 00:36:20.800
Robert Kovler: So you can get that and you can test it out.

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.500
Robert Kovler: And yeah, but it is a product that could be given every day.

00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:33.540
Robert Kovler: So once you start giving it again, it's something that you got to give it about a week or two weeks as a preventative.

00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:38.540
Robert Kovler: And you just keep giving it because it's also good for the urinary tract and the bladder.

00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:40.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So from my…

00:36:40.420 --> 00:36:41.640
Robert Kovler: It's a two-fold product.

00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:49.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So from my understanding, you developed the urinary tract product and then you found this this secondary benefit of it.

00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:50.740
Isabel Alvarez Arata: How did that happen?

00:36:51.220 --> 00:37:00.140
Robert Kovler: Well, we have a urinary tract product, very, very specific for urinary kidney and bladder that has a few different ingredients in there.

00:37:00.680 --> 00:37:11.300
Robert Kovler: And then one of the holistic doctors, we were just discussing it, who is a urologist, and he came up with the idea, I will not take credit for it.

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:31.340
Robert Kovler: He said that, you know something Rob, we should really discuss and think about another product very specific for people that want to keep their two, three thousand dollar lawns, you know, very healthy.

00:37:31.540 --> 00:37:34.020
Robert Kovler: People spend a lot of money and time on their lawns.

00:37:34.420 --> 00:37:43.260
Robert Kovler: It's their pride and joy during the summer or in, you know, hotter climates in California, Hawaii, so on and so forth.

00:37:43.860 --> 00:37:47.360
Robert Kovler: Now we did test it and we were very successful.

00:37:47.560 --> 00:37:55.380
Robert Kovler: I was actually not so surprised, but also surprised in the sense that it worked so well.

00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:59.600
Robert Kovler: But again, you have to give it every day.

00:37:59.620 --> 00:38:05.380
Robert Kovler: You don't want to skip these things, but that goes with any supplement that you want to give.

00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.940
Robert Kovler: You know, you can't try to stretch the product out.

00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:15.440
Robert Kovler: You either follow the directions or don't really use it at all, because it's not going to be a benefit.

00:38:15.460 --> 00:38:25.340
Robert Kovler: You know, we're the experts and we know, again, with all the background that we have and pharmacognosy.

00:38:26.540 --> 00:38:29.540
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm one of those people that takes pride in our backyard.

00:38:29.600 --> 00:38:36.500
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We're in El Paso, Texas, so water is very expensive, but also green is not very common here.

00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:42.100
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, we have rocks in our front yard, which is a very nice setup with rocks and a couple plants.

00:38:42.520 --> 00:38:45.620
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And then in the backyard, when we bought the house, there was grass.

00:38:45.640 --> 00:38:50.020
Isabel Alvarez Arata: They had planted more sustainable strains of grass.

00:38:50.040 --> 00:38:51.040
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We have clove out there.

00:38:51.060 --> 00:38:52.000
Isabel Alvarez Arata: We have Bermuda.

00:38:52.600 --> 00:38:59.500
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But we love to see lush grass because we have a dog, we have a cat that's hardest trained and we have two young children.

00:38:59.500 --> 00:39:01.180
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So, our grass is a lot.

00:39:01.200 --> 00:39:03.520
Isabel Alvarez Arata: My husband, like you said, takes pride in it.

00:39:03.540 --> 00:39:04.860
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's out there looking at it.

00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.480
Isabel Alvarez Arata: He's out there seeding it and doing it, you know.

00:39:07.580 --> 00:39:08.060
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And we…

00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.800
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I remember being on the phone with my sister in Spain and they mostly live in apartments in Europe, right?

00:39:14.020 --> 00:39:19.120
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So her friend was on FaceTime with us and he was like, wow, that's your yard.

00:39:19.140 --> 00:39:20.140
Isabel Alvarez Arata: It looks like a park.

00:39:20.220 --> 00:39:25.360
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And my husband was so excited and so proud of his grass.

00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:29.220
Isabel Alvarez Arata: But yeah, I mean, we can tell where Kira pees, like we can see that.

00:39:29.420 --> 00:39:35.160
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And if we're not careful with it, then yeah, I mean, it kind of destroys the beauty of that grass.

00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:41.820
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I see your background says an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:51.000
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And I do find that when it comes to supplements, a lot of us give them because we want to prevent or because we want to ensure longevity.

00:39:51.240 --> 00:39:58.760
Isabel Alvarez Arata: So if I had to ask you right now for pet parents in the US specifically, what are what should they be preventing?

00:39:58.780 --> 00:40:05.660
Robert Kovler: Well, most illnesses in humans and in pets, you know where they come from?

00:40:05.680 --> 00:40:08.000
Robert Kovler: I'm going to do a game with you right now.

00:40:08.020 --> 00:40:10.720
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know the answer.

00:40:10.740 --> 00:40:17.060
Robert Kovler: You got me on a couple of grass questions from Duty Calls, which I'm going to have to have a talk with this Duty Calls.

00:40:17.120 --> 00:40:19.240
Robert Kovler: I want to know where they got their information from.

00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.580
Robert Kovler: I'm going to do a game with you now.

00:40:23.260 --> 00:40:29.260
Robert Kovler: What is the most important part of an animal and a human in their body?

00:40:29.520 --> 00:40:30.540
Robert Kovler: The gut.

00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:31.680
Robert Kovler: You're so good.

00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.400
Robert Kovler: Did you get that from Duty Calls, too?

00:40:35.900 --> 00:40:44.680
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Health starts with the gut, and there is a gut brain, and there is a brain brain, and the gut is so important for so many reasons.

00:40:44.900 --> 00:41:03.480
Robert Kovler: Well, I'm going to tell you, and you don't have to buy our products, but just get a good product, a gut and pre and probiotic combination, with some other healthy ingredients, you know, I don't want to go into details of how many billions of…

00:41:03.620 --> 00:41:04.500
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Yes, right.

00:41:04.500 --> 00:41:11.920
Robert Kovler: You know, I don't want to get into that right now, those are details, but you could definitely go on our site, and you could look at them.

00:41:12.040 --> 00:41:14.980
Robert Kovler: If you have any questions, you could always give us a call, too, as well.

00:41:15.340 --> 00:41:15.980
Robert Kovler: You know what?

00:41:16.240 --> 00:41:18.880
Robert Kovler: We will always help you out with questions, as well.

00:41:18.900 --> 00:41:22.880
Robert Kovler: So, you might even get me on the phone, which is extremely possible.

00:41:22.900 --> 00:41:27.240
Robert Kovler: I speak to a lot of people, but you know, the gut is so important.

00:41:27.940 --> 00:41:36.320
Robert Kovler: So if you were to ask me, what is the most important supplement, they're all important.

00:41:37.080 --> 00:41:43.800
Robert Kovler: You get a good gut and pro and prebiotic and a very good immune product.

00:41:44.640 --> 00:41:52.660
Robert Kovler: Mushrooms, shiitake, reshi, chaga, these mushrooms are so important.

00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:58.820
Robert Kovler: Don't foo foo mushrooms, they've been used for a thousand years.

00:42:00.100 --> 00:42:04.060
Robert Kovler: A thousand years, we're just getting to know how powerful they are right now.

00:42:04.580 --> 00:42:07.040
Robert Kovler: And they're very powerful for immune support.

00:42:07.460 --> 00:42:19.340
Robert Kovler: So if it was me, I would get an immune mushroom product, a really good one, and also a gut and pro and prebiotic, right?

00:42:20.060 --> 00:42:21.880
Robert Kovler: And that's what you want to start off with.

00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:28.000
Robert Kovler: And then if you start to see signs of urinary tract problems, you start on a urinary tract product.

00:42:28.560 --> 00:42:33.200
Robert Kovler: And it might be ten years before you see a urinary tract problem in your dog.

00:42:33.220 --> 00:42:33.440
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Right.

00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:34.520
Robert Kovler: Or your cat.

00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:35.320
Robert Kovler: Right.

00:42:35.420 --> 00:42:39.800
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Tell me, how can my audience learn more about Therapetixx and all that you offer?

00:42:40.300 --> 00:42:41.920
Robert Kovler: Well, a couple of ways.

00:42:41.980 --> 00:42:45.920
Robert Kovler: I mean, the easiest way is to go on to therapeutixx.com.

00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:53.520
Robert Kovler: Our 800 number is 800-224-6805.

00:42:54.700 --> 00:42:56.720
Robert Kovler: I'm Rob, as you already know.

00:42:56.740 --> 00:42:57.840
Robert Kovler: You know what?

00:42:58.560 --> 00:42:59.260
Robert Kovler: Ask for me.

00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.720
Robert Kovler: If I'm able to come to the phone, I will come to the phone.

00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:09.180
Robert Kovler: We don't read from a piece of paper with the top, you know, frequently asked questions.

00:43:10.180 --> 00:43:11.980
Robert Kovler: We're extremely knowledgeable.

00:43:12.420 --> 00:43:17.880
Robert Kovler: We have licensed veterinary technicians, which they're not called LVTs anymore.

00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:19.440
Robert Kovler: They're called animal nurses now.

00:43:19.460 --> 00:43:22.300
Robert Kovler: So we have animal nurses that work for us.

00:43:22.620 --> 00:43:24.320
Robert Kovler: You know, test us.

00:43:24.940 --> 00:43:25.780
Robert Kovler: Yes.

00:43:25.780 --> 00:43:32.660
Isabel Alvarez Arata: And if ever there's a fear about, like, contraindications, I'm sure you're happy to answer those questions, right?

00:43:33.620 --> 00:43:34.980
Robert Kovler: 100 percent.

00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:40.280
Robert Kovler: You know, I always start off, I'm not a doctor, and I'm not going to supersede your veterinarian.

00:43:40.820 --> 00:43:51.700
Robert Kovler: But I'm very safe to tell you, since I've been doing this for a long time, and by the way, we are an A-plus business on the Bed of Business Bureau.

00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:55.760
Robert Kovler: I know all the younger crowd out there, they don't know what the Bed of Business Bureau is.

00:43:55.940 --> 00:43:56.960
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I know what it is.

00:43:57.300 --> 00:43:59.620
Robert Kovler: All right, well, you know a lot.

00:43:59.720 --> 00:44:02.380
Robert Kovler: You know a whole lot more than I do.

00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:05.360
Robert Kovler: My girlfriend knows a whole lot more than I do, too.

00:44:07.180 --> 00:44:07.900
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I believe that.

00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:08.400
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm just kidding.

00:44:08.420 --> 00:44:10.520
Isabel Alvarez Arata: I don't know her, but I believe that.

00:44:10.540 --> 00:44:11.280
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Girl power.

00:44:11.420 --> 00:44:13.520
Isabel Alvarez Arata: Girl power.

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Robert Kovler: But what I will say is that, do you know, and I know this is going to sound outrageous, but it is true, in 22 years of being on the Bed of Business Bureau where A+, we have never had a complaint against us.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: That says a lot.

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Robert Kovler: Well, the Bed of Business Bureau said to us, if this is extraordinary, and I think it's because we really speak from the heart, we're pet people, we want to help you, and we do right by you.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I just want to propose a toast to you.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: For all the good that you've been doing for over 20 years in the pet industry, for all your knowledge, thank you so much for being my guest.

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Robert Kovler: I really appreciate it.

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Robert Kovler: I'll drink to that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Drink to that.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I also want to drink and propose a toast to my executive producer, Mark Winter.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Here's to you, Mark, and to our audience for joining us for these awesome conversations.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I hope you enjoyed this.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I'm sure that we can find you on social media, is that right?

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Robert Kovler: You can on Instagram, Therapeutics.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: All right, perfect.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: We'll be sure to follow.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do we ever get to see you?

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Do you ever do like videos and stuff?

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Robert Kovler: I'm going to start doing videos.

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Robert Kovler: Believe it or not, I really don't like to be in front of the camera too much.

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Robert Kovler: I told you, I only have a face a mother could love.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: I do not believe that you do not want to be on video.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You are a natural.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: The camera loves you.

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Robert Kovler: Okay, well, I'll take your word for it.

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Robert Kovler: If anybody out there disagrees, send me an email.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Nah, go on TikTok and start teaching.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You're wasting such a talent.

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Robert Kovler: You know what?

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Robert Kovler: I do it in front of doctors.

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Robert Kovler: I give lectures to veterinarians on orthopedics and urinary tract.

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Robert Kovler: And you know what?

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Robert Kovler: I will start doing it.

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Robert Kovler: If you say that I look okay on camera, I will start doing it.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You've got the ring light.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You've got the background.

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Robert Kovler: I got the ring light.

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Robert Kovler: I got a microphone.

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Robert Kovler: I feel like a disc jockey.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You are ready.

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Robert Kovler: I got a record player in the back with my violin going.

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Robert Kovler: I got some jazz happening right now.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You are ready to go.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: You are going to be TikTok famous in a year.

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Robert Kovler: We'll see about that.

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Robert Kovler: Don't push me.

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Robert Kovler: Don't push me.

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Robert Kovler: I'm concentrating on more great products to come out with.

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Robert Kovler: We're going to be coming out with some really other amazing products to help pets, for birds, for exotics too.

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Robert Kovler: Birds pick their feathers out terribly.

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Robert Kovler: We actually are coming out with a CBD spray to spray on the food.

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Robert Kovler: We've tested it out.

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Robert Kovler: I have to tell you, I am so excited about it.

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Robert Kovler: So I'm not going to waste any more time.

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Robert Kovler: You've seen enough of me.

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Robert Kovler: That's for sure.

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Robert Kovler: But what we'll do is you visit us, we'll help you, and it's a pleasure to help anybody out there.

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Robert Kovler: That's what we live for.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Here's to a life covered in pet hair, because there's no better way to live.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: To learn more about Covered In Pet Hair, please visit coveredinpethair.com or petliferadio.com.

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Isabel Alvarez Arata: Thanks for watching and for listening on Pet Life Radio.

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