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Travel Cat as seen in the film Argylle, modeled by Claudia Schiffer

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Michelle Fern: Hello, pet lovers, welcome to Best Bets for Pets.

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Michelle Fern: I'm your show host, Michelle Fern.

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Michelle Fern: So, seen any good movies lately?

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Michelle Fern: Especially where there was an adorable cat featured?

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Michelle Fern: Well, stay tuned.

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Michelle Fern: You'll find out what movie, and we're gonna talk about the movie and some of the great products that were in that movie.

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Michelle Fern: Stay tuned, we'll be right back.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome back, everyone.

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Michelle Fern: I'd like to welcome Emily Meithner.

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Michelle Fern: She is the co-founder of Travel Cat.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome, Emily.

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Emily Meithner: Hi, thank you so much for having me.

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Michelle Fern: Great to have you here.

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Michelle Fern: We're talking, of course, about Argylle, the movie, and Travel Cat created a lot of the cool products that were featured in this movie, especially a really unique backpack.

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Michelle Fern: And thank you for the sample.

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Michelle Fern: I don't think I've ever had before something that, and we'll talk about this later, a supermodel has, so it's a first.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, so what is the movie about?

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Emily Meithner: Well, so Argylle, first of all, it's super fun.

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Emily Meithner: That's like the number one thing about this movie.

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Emily Meithner: And we're so excited to be involved in working with Marvel Studios, the production company behind the movie.

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Emily Meithner: So it's a really fun spy thriller, and it has an incredible A-list cast.

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Emily Meithner: So Sam Rockwell, Dua Lipa, Henry Cavill, Samuel L.

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Emily Meithner: Jackson, Catherine O'Hara.

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Emily Meithner: It's like somebody, there's somebody for everyone in this movie.

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Emily Meithner: And the main character is played by Bryce Dallas Howard, and she carries her cat around with her in a cat backpack.

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Emily Meithner: So that is the reason that we got involved since, as you mentioned, so I'm the co-founder of Travel Cat, and we're the number one most trusted cat travel company in the world.

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Emily Meithner: And so we're really excited to partner together on this movie to create some really unique products for fans.

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Michelle Fern: Well, we're going to talk more about the product a little later, but let's talk about the cat.

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Michelle Fern: So the cat is Chip, and little nepotism here, because Chip is the cat of Claudia Schiffer Vaughn, who Claudia Schiffer, some gen, I don't know what gen, might not know who she is, but she's a supermodel, kind of retired now, but big in the like 90s and the aughts, I think.

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Michelle Fern: And so she is married to the director Matthew Vaughn.

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Michelle Fern: So that's how Chip got on, I think, right?

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Michelle Fern: But he's an adorable cat.

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Emily Meithner: Yes, and well, it's a funny story because they actually did hire a quote unquote actor cat.

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Emily Meithner: And that actor cat spent, I think, about one day on set, and Matthew was not happy with how they went or how it went.

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Emily Meithner: And so he ended up, you know, barring Chip the family cat for the months of shooting.

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Emily Meithner: And it worked out really well.

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Emily Meithner: I mean, it's very impressive.

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Emily Meithner: And the cat does have a pretty big role in the film.

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Michelle Fern: OK, so I take back my nepotism.

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Michelle Fern: So that's a great story.

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Michelle Fern: Now, what type of cat is Chip?

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Michelle Fern: So people can get a good image.

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Emily Meithner: He is a Scottish Fold.

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Emily Meithner: And in the movie, his name is Alfie.

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Michelle Fern: Alfie.

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Michelle Fern: OK.

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Michelle Fern: I wonder if this is going to go to his head.

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Michelle Fern: He'll have salmon for dinner or something.

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Emily Meithner: Yes.

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Emily Meithner: And there's definitely, they totally embrace, and he embraces the nepotism.

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Emily Meithner: He's definitely a nepo cat, for sure.

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Michelle Fern: OK.

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Michelle Fern: We talked a little bit about the backpack and that was something unique.

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Michelle Fern: And most people, when they're picturing a backpack, are not picturing anything to do with a cat, because a cat can claw its way out of a backpack.

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Michelle Fern: Cats don't like to be carried, but there's something really unique about the backpack that's created.

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Michelle Fern: I don't know if it was specially created for the movie or it was, maybe it's a special design, but how did that come about?

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Emily Meithner: So first of all, everyone should just, if they haven't already, Google Argylle trailer, watch the trailer and you'll see the backpack featured right front and center in the trailer.

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Emily Meithner: It's actually the thumbnail for the trailer and the movie is still in theaters and it'll be out on Apple Plus for streaming in April.

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, so we create cat backpacks that are super safe to help people do more with their cats or at least do more with their cats in a less stressful way.

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Emily Meithner: So a lot of cats actually will prefer backpacks, the backpacks that we make to carriers.

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Emily Meithner: And one of the reasons is because our backpacks all have some sort of opportunity for the cat to look out and see what's going on in the world around them.

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Emily Meithner: And so it's a really great way to give the cat some visibility and let them experience some enrichment of just watching, again, watching the world go around.

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Emily Meithner: So the backpack in the film has the little bubble viewer for Alfie, you know, acted by Chip, to look out.

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Emily Meithner: And so throughout a good chunk of the movie, you know, when you see her carrying Alfie around, he's looking out the little plastic dome astronaut bubble.

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Michelle Fern: It's such a cute backpack.

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Michelle Fern: Thanks for the sample.

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Michelle Fern: Dennis liked it.

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Michelle Fern: He's not as good as Chip.

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Michelle Fern: He didn't last that long in it.

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Michelle Fern: I've seen a few cats in backpacks and you do a double take because you don't expect a cat in the backpack, but it does seem like a much better way to carry your cat around because most cats don't do good on leashes, but some do because you also created a leash for this movie.

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, yeah.

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Emily Meithner: So we have a full product line.

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Emily Meithner: So we have two backpacks.

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Emily Meithner: So one is called the replica.

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Emily Meithner: And as you can guess, it is the exact backpack that is seen in the movie.

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Emily Meithner: So that backpack holds up to 15 pounds of cat.

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Emily Meithner: So if you have a more, you know, smaller medium sized cat, that's a really good option.

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Emily Meithner: And then we also created another backpack that we called the spy backpack, which is based on our best selling backpack of all time, the fat cat backpack.

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Emily Meithner: And as you can imagine, that backpack holds a bit more as per its name.

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Emily Meithner: So the spy backpack holds up to 25 pounds of cat.

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Emily Meithner: So if you have a larger breed or just a bigger cat, chunkier cat, the spy backpack is a great option.

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Emily Meithner: And then yes, we also created our version of our best selling harness, the True Adventure Harness and Leash set.

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Emily Meithner: And also for the less adventurous, but still stylish kitties, we created a bandana and collar set based off of the movie poster design as well.

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Emily Meithner: So we have a full line for people to do more safely with their cat while giving sort of an ode to this awesome movie, Argylle.

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Michelle Fern: What are the safety features that are in the backpack?

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, absolutely.

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Emily Meithner: Well, so we really pride ourselves as a company on creating the safest, most comfortable products for both the cat and the human.

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Emily Meithner: So all of our products have tullation, you know, mesh and holes, air holes and that sort of thing, high quality zippers so cats aren't, you know, clawing their way out.

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Emily Meithner: And all of our backpack products for this movie and just in general, I'll also have a clip inside that you can clip the cat's harness or leash to.

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Emily Meithner: So just another point of security.

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Emily Meithner: And then for the harness, one of the reasons that it's our best selling harness is because it has two points of security.

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Emily Meithner: So it both velcros shut and adjusts on the back.

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Emily Meithner: And then it also has four adjustable straps as well.

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Emily Meithner: And the collar that all the collars that we sell are also breakaway collars.

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Emily Meithner: So safety, number one priority and lots of safety features on all the products.

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Michelle Fern: We're going to take a quick break and then we'll talk more about Argylle and the products that Travel Cat makes.

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Michelle Fern: Be right back.

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Announcer: Let's Talk Pets.

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Michelle Fern: Welcome back everyone.

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Michelle Fern: We're talking to Emily, the co-founder of Travel Cat, who had several products featured in the movie Argylle.

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Michelle Fern: So you had a backpack in the movie, you had the leash, you had a collar, and anything else?

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Emily Meithner: Well, so the only product that's in the movie is the backpack, that one backpack.

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Emily Meithner: So the other products are just products we created in conjunction with the movie as well, and they're all inspired by the visuals of the movie.

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Emily Meithner: So those are, yeah, that's the line that we created for the movie.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, so Emily, right before the break, you talked about the different backpacks that you have, you know, your main one that's up to 15 pounds, and then the fat cat backpack should probably be for at least two of my cats.

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Michelle Fern: So if someone's thinking, you know, that would be a great way to travel with my cat, especially, you know, we're pet parents, we're traveling more with our fur babes.

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Michelle Fern: So what would you tell someone who's thinking, yeah, but how am I gonna get my cat in the backpack and are they gonna like it?

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Michelle Fern: Cats usually don't like movement that much.

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Michelle Fern: So what would you say to that listener that's saying great idea, but I don't know, how would I do that?

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Michelle Fern: How would I get started?

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Emily Meithner: Sure, sure.

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Emily Meithner: So we always provide a lot of education along with our products.

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Emily Meithner: So every time you purchase a product, you're gonna get a booklet that has a bunch of tips on both general traveling with your cat and also backpack and harness specific training tips.

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Emily Meithner: So we always wanna encourage people to take it slow with their cat and really give themselves and their cat time to warm up and get used to the idea of being carried in a backpack or walking on a harness and a leash because cats are not dogs, right?

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Emily Meithner: We all know this and this is why we love cats because they're not dogs.

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Emily Meithner: So from the backpack side of things, one of the biggest tips is first to, when you get the backpack, let the cat explore and put the backpack in a spot where the cat normally likes to sleep, likes to hang out, likes to lay down, and also put what we would call a scent soaker inside the backpack.

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Emily Meithner: So maybe that's a bed or a towel or a shirt that smells like you, something that will remind them of something familiar.

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Emily Meithner: You put that in the backpack and then beyond that, you can do other things like playing with the cat, with their favorite toy when they're in the backpack or to get them to go in the backpack.

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Emily Meithner: Some people will even feed their cat in the backpack, literally put the dish of food in the backpack.

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Emily Meithner: So that way it's creating just a lot of positive associations with being inside the backpack.

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Emily Meithner: Then again, slow and steady, so zipping the cat up when they're in there and walking them for a few minutes around the house and just lengthening the amount of time that the cat is spending zipped up in the backpack before you even go outside with them.

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Emily Meithner: Then once they're ready to go outside, doing short trips, being really thoughtful about where you're taking them.

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Emily Meithner: For instance, bringing them to a park that's always empty or bringing them to a pet store where you know they'll be welcome.

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Emily Meithner: Just being really thoughtful about where you bring them and then ultimately, you can extend those trips.

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Emily Meithner: Then the number one thing we also say is just it's really important to be present and pay attention to your cat's body language.

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Emily Meithner: You know your cat best.

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Emily Meithner: If you feel like your cat's not having it, they're not into it, it's time to cut the trip short.

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Emily Meithner: Those are just a few of our basic tips, but then also very high level before you take your cat out for any reason.

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Emily Meithner: We of course highly recommend making sure your cat is microchipped, making sure they have an ID tag, making sure they're up to date on their flea and tick vaccinations.

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Emily Meithner: All those basics, of course, before you do go out at all with your cat are really important.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, so that's getting the cat comfortable and it's great tips.

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Michelle Fern: And as you were describing getting used to the backpack for the cat, I thought, oh, it's the same thing when you have a carrier for the cat.

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Michelle Fern: But you could use possibly the backpack instead of a carrier.

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Michelle Fern: So what about for the pet parent?

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Michelle Fern: Because I know how I normally get my backpack on when I'm traveling.

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Michelle Fern: There's a laptop and like 40 pounds of stuff, but that kind of movement will not fly with my cat.

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Michelle Fern: You can't just swing the backpack around with the cat.

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Michelle Fern: You're going to get poor pukes on the backpack and on you and the cat.

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Michelle Fern: How do you do that part?

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, well, a lot of people will keep the backpack in a position that's high up and easy for them to put on.

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Emily Meithner: So maybe it's on a table, on a counter, on a couch.

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Emily Meithner: So like you're saying, the distance between where you're grabbing them from and them ultimately going on your back is a bit shorter.

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Emily Meithner: Another reason a lot of people buy our products and our backpacks are really also just for essential travel because like you said, everybody needs a carrier, right?

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Emily Meithner: It's really important to take your cat to the vet and also in case of emergencies, right?

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Emily Meithner: So we find a lot of folks who are in areas where there's a lot of natural disasters or they want to be able to take their cat out quickly if there's a fire or a fire drill.

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Emily Meithner: We've had customers reach out to us and share stories of a fire in their apartment building and how grateful they were that they were able to get their cat into the backpack quickly because their cat was used to going out in the backpack and that they were able to have their hands free for walking down the stairs when they couldn't really see because there's smoke in the hallway.

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Emily Meithner: There's definitely a wide range of reasons that people are buying our products.

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Emily Meithner: So again, that essential travel, making visits to the vet less stressful.

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Emily Meithner: Or if you have multiple pets, I think you mentioned you have two cats.

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Emily Meithner: So we have people who will have like a backpack of ours on the front with one cat and on their back with the other cat.

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Emily Meithner: You can, if the cats meet the weight limit, we do have a number of products like the fat cat and the navigator backpack that fit two cats as well.

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Emily Meithner: So yeah, you have that sort of bucket of people, the essential travel, the emergencies, and then you have the other bucket of people who are using our products for stimulation for their cats.

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Emily Meithner: It's really important that cats get stimulation, they get play and taking your cat safely outside is a really great way to do that, whether it's on a harness or a leash or in a backpack.

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Michelle Fern: That was my other thought, that it's a great way for cats to, you know, it's like cat TV on steroids because in the world, you know, you know, where I once saw a cat and I couldn't believe it.

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Michelle Fern: I won't say the name, but it's a big mass, mass volume store of which there's really just two, there's Target and Walmart.

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Michelle Fern: So and the person was on the aisle, all right, it was Target.

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Michelle Fern: So the person was on the aisle and he had a black cat and it was the backpack was like greenish and I looked twice because I saw something moving inside this backpack and I said, well, it's that your cat and he goes, yeah, I said, that is a good cat.

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Michelle Fern: He goes, loves be riding around in the backpack.

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Michelle Fern: He had, he, you know, had to get him used to it, but loves it.

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Michelle Fern: So now what about if your cat's older?

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, I mean, that's a question we get a lot too.

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Emily Meithner: And we have a lot of folks in our community who have trained older cats.

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Emily Meithner: So it's definitely possible.

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Emily Meithner: Of course, it might and oftentimes could take longer to get them used to it.

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Emily Meithner: So, you know, it's really every cat is different too, you know, like I mentioned, a big part of, you know, our company ethos is just providing a lot of education and community support to people who are purchasing our products, whether that's the training guides that we create, the articles we create.

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Emily Meithner: We also host free virtual events all throughout the year.

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Emily Meithner: We have a lot of recorded virtual events about backpack and harness training to really help people just figure out how to do these things with their cats, you know, at their own pace and also to be realistic about it.

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Emily Meithner: So, you know, there's always an opportunity to, you know, teach an old cat new tricks.

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Emily Meithner: It just might take a bit more time than if you were to start early.

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Emily Meithner: It's definitely recommended, you know, when possible, if you have a kitten, if you have a younger cat and you're interested or know you might need to travel with them.

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Emily Meithner: Of course, the earlier you can start them getting used to doing these things, the better.

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Emily Meithner: But it's always possible to try.

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Michelle Fern: So we talked about the backpacks, the leashes, the collars and the harnesses that Travel Cat makes.

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Michelle Fern: What other products do you have?

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, well, we have, we also carry beds and other supplies you might need for traveling, like our Porta Potty travel litter box.

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Emily Meithner: We have travel bowls and, you know, really just the scratchers, beds, all that mostly have some sort of collapsible, easy to travel with component to them.

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Emily Meithner: But we do also, we're more and more just expanding to, you know, essential cat products, fun cat products.

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Emily Meithner: We also for our best selling products will release new colorways from time to time, so our actual newest best seller is our product that we just released at the beginning of this year.

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Emily Meithner: So we've had a backpack for a few years called the Navigator.

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Emily Meithner: And that backpack is really, I call it the Cadillac of cat backpacks.

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Emily Meithner: It's really meant for people that are going to be doing longer trips or hikes with their cats, doing more sort of outdoorsy adventures or just have a larger cat because it's got great features for the human as well, like a waist strap and a chest strap for comfort.

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Emily Meithner: But so we just released that product in a new colorway called the Navigator Earth.

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Emily Meithner: And that one's been super popular and we're doing more fun collaborations, you know, like with we did with the movie Argylle.

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Emily Meithner: We recently did a collaboration with a amazing YouTuber, Simply Nailogical and their company, Holo Taco, where we made like a really fun cat bed.

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Emily Meithner: So yeah, that's a big part of our company is just creating, always coming up with new products, new colors, new designs, and you're giving our communities new things to gift to their cats and themselves.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, so, you know, it's interesting how you have this great, successful business, Travel Cat, and you think as you were talking, I was thinking, boy, who knew, like, maybe even 20 years ago, that people would even think about traveling with their cats, right?

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Michelle Fern: You'd say, oh, my cat, you know what I'm...

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Michelle Fern: And people would say, what are you crazy?

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Michelle Fern: Because you just don't think of them as traveling.

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Michelle Fern: But it's obviously changed a lot because, you know, you're, hey, hello to your business, right?

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Michelle Fern: So how have you seen the change as far as, you know, how people are changing their minds about your cat and just, hey, I could take my cat with me if I'm going on vacation.

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Michelle Fern: Why not?

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, you know, I think a part of it is just the larger trend with pets and people and the bigger and bigger roles that pets are having in people's lives, you know, like you said, for babies, right?

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Emily Meithner: Like the humanization of pets and people just wanting to, like, do more, you know, and spend more time with their pets, including cats.

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Emily Meithner: So, yeah, you know, it's been a sort of a slow, I think a slow change.

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Emily Meithner: And it's still something where, you know, like you said, if people see a cat out, it's like, whoa, you know, I don't know when and if it's going to be become commonplace.

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Emily Meithner: I think it will be a while to get there.

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Emily Meithner: But I mean, one of the reasons it was so fun to partner with the movie Argylle is because this cat backpack had, you know, such a big sort of front and center role in the movie and then also in the marketing of the movie.

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Emily Meithner: And we were just really excited to be the partner for Marv and for Matthew Vaughn and in helping people see like, look, this is this is possible.

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Emily Meithner: And, you know, here are all the tips and the education and, you know, really safe products to do this.

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Emily Meithner: You know, we were sure that many people saw this trailer and are going to see this movie and have never before realized that people take their cat anywhere.

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Emily Meithner: So it's really exciting.

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Emily Meithner: And it was also exciting to share the partnership with our community.

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Emily Meithner: We have a really incredible community of, you know, our like super VIP folks who have really played a big part in the education of our community.

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Emily Meithner: Like they've spoken at events or come with us to, you know, either virtual events or in-person events, and they were just all so excited about the movie.

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Emily Meithner: You know, it's kind of like such a win for cat people, you know, to have a movie where even just a cat is so front and center, like a real cat too, not like a Garfield cat, you know.

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Emily Meithner: You know, it's sort of a, you know, it's sort of a continued theme that cat people and cats often are, you know, second fiddle to dogs, whether that's, you know, entertainment or media or products, right?

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Emily Meithner: Which is one of the reasons my husband and I, so my co-founder is my husband, one of the reasons we started the company is because we saw that lack of premium cat products and products focused specifically and solely on cats, you know.

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Emily Meithner: And that's one of the reasons our cat customers, as we lovingly call them, really love Travel Cat because they know, you know, this is not a pet company where cats are the afterthought like in so many other brands.

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Emily Meithner: This is a purely dedicated to cats company.

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Emily Meithner: So, yeah, I think, you know, we're excited for that.

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Emily Meithner: We think this, you know, Argylle movie and the partnership is a big win for the cat community in general, but the traveling cat community as well.

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Emily Meithner: So we're excited to continue to play a part in just expanding what people have thought that they can do with their cats.

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Michelle Fern: Well, I love that idea.

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Michelle Fern: So Emily, where can people buy their own Travel Cat, Argylle Backpack or maybe the Navigator, the Fat Cat, a leash or, you know, all of it, who knows?

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Emily Meithner: Yeah, absolutely.

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Emily Meithner: So people can go to travelcatshop.com.

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Emily Meithner: And I always like to share that we can ship anywhere in the world in three to five business days.

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Emily Meithner: So if you're outside of the US we got you covered.

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Emily Meithner: And we are also carried in over 500 indie pet stores across the US and also internationally.

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Emily Meithner: So if you go to our site, we have a store locator as well.

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Emily Meithner: And if we're not carried in the local pet store near you, you should tell them to carry us.

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Michelle Fern: Okay.

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Michelle Fern: Can they order directly from you at travelcat.com?

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Emily Meithner: travelcatshop.com, yes, absolutely.

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Michelle Fern: travelcatshop.com.

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Michelle Fern: Okay, great.

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Michelle Fern: Emily, thank you so much for coming on Best Bets for Pets and sharing this exciting, interesting information on traveling with your cat and, of course, TravelCat and your great success with the movie Argylle.

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Emily Meithner: Thank you so much for having me.

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Emily Meithner: Really appreciate it.

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Michelle Fern: I hope you all enjoyed this show.

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Michelle Fern: The movie Argylle is adorable.

00:26:13.454 --> 00:26:14.694
Michelle Fern: Chip is adorable in it.

00:26:14.714 --> 00:26:16.674
Michelle Fern: And that backpack, wow.

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Michelle Fern: So it was wonderful having Emily from TravelCat on Best Bets for Pets.

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Michelle Fern: I'd like to thank my tester, Dennis.

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Michelle Fern: I didn't have a lot of time to get them used to the backpack.

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Michelle Fern: I got them in it and held them for maybe, I don't know, two or three minutes.

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Michelle Fern: And then I thought, I don't know if I was going to go for this, but I was not patient.

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Michelle Fern: You must be patient if you're teaching your cat new tricks.

00:26:40.594 --> 00:26:45.294
Michelle Fern: And thanks to the watching crew, which was Charlotte and Molly, because that's what they did.

00:26:45.314 --> 00:26:47.674
Michelle Fern: They watched Dennis go into the backpack.

00:26:47.814 --> 00:26:51.354
Michelle Fern: Thanks, of course, to everyone that listens to Best Bets for Pets.

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Michelle Fern: I so appreciate it.

00:26:52.954 --> 00:26:59.834
Michelle Fern: And of course, thank you to my producer, Mark Winter, who works his magic and makes me and my guests sound amazing.

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Michelle Fern: And remember, you never know what we're going to have next on Best Bets for Pets.

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