Oh Behave!

Viral TikTok content creator and personality who is recognized for sharing comedy videos on his abrameng account. Many of his videos included his cat Kurt which led to him amassing more than 10 million fans.

 

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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets.

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Announcer: It's OBEA with Arden Moore.

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Announcer: This show that teaches you how to have harmony in the household with your pets.

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Announcer: Join Arden as she travels coast to coast to help millions better understand why cats and dogs do what they do.

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Announcer: From famous pet experts and bestselling authors to television and movie stars, you'll get the latest buzz from wagging tongues and tails, garner great pet tips and have a doggone fur-flying fun time.

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Announcer: So get ready for the pause and applause as we unleash your OBEA host, America's pet edutainer, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: Welcome to the Oh Behave show on Pet Life Radio.

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Arden Moore: I'm your host, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: I say this, real men love cats.

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Arden Moore: And we have a great one on our show today.

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Arden Moore: He is a major cat dad influencer on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, you name it.

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Arden Moore: And I love this.

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Arden Moore: He partners with a real cool cat named Kurt.

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Arden Moore: Please welcome to our show, I call him a perfect guest.

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Arden Moore: His name is Abram Engle.

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Arden Moore: Hey, Abram, meow, welcome to the show.

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Abram Engle: Thank you.

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Abram Engle: Thank you for having me.

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Arden Moore: Now, I know that I'm not sure when this will air, but Father's Day always lands in June.

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Arden Moore: But what I love about you is, you know, it's time to have feline Father's Day celebrations.

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Arden Moore: Do you agree?

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Abram Engle: Oh, yes, of course.

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Arden Moore: So my father was great.

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Arden Moore: We always gave him a tie and a coffee mug.

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Arden Moore: But what do you think feline fathers should get for Father's Day?

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Arden Moore: Or what's something cool to celebrate that connection between the per machine and the dude?

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Abram Engle: Anything that's going to be fun for the cat, of course, you know, because it's always about the cat.

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Arden Moore: I like that.

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Abram Engle: Yeah, you know, you have the hoodies with Felix, obviously, cat insurance.

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Arden Moore: We'll talk about that in a second.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: But I would say a good bonding thing.

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Abram Engle: Like, obviously, I don't want to just always milk the hoodies.

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Abram Engle: The hoodies are going to be awesome.

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Abram Engle: But something that is like between the dad and the cat, like something with a pouch or, I mean, even interactive, like a fishing pole.

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Abram Engle: You ever have one of those fishing poles?

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Announcer: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Abram Engle: The cat, Kurt has broken three of those, but we're on our fourth and he loves it.

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Arden Moore: And he hasn't landed a salmon yet, right?

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Abram Engle: Not yet, not yet.

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Arden Moore: So for the folks, we want to bring people up to speed.

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Arden Moore: We're going to dive into who the heck Abram is and Kurt.

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Arden Moore: And he's partnering up with Felix Cat Insurance because you guys, you know, you want to make sure that cats are safe.

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Arden Moore: Medical costs can be pretty expensive.

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Arden Moore: So I understand that you are teaming up with Felix Cat Insurance.

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Arden Moore: They're coming out with some cool hoodies for cat daddies.

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Arden Moore: And they're bringing out CDE.

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Arden Moore: What the heck is that?

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Abram Engle: Cat dad energy, cat dad energy.

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Arden Moore: All right.

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Arden Moore: I've heard of CBD.

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Arden Moore: I've never heard of CDE.

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Arden Moore: Right?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, no, CDE.

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Abram Engle: It's new.

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Abram Engle: It's new.

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Abram Engle: Cat dad energy.

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Arden Moore: So why do you think guys would like hoodies with a cat on it?

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Arden Moore: What's the deal?

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Arden Moore: Real men.

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Arden Moore: We're talking real men love cats.

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Arden Moore: Come on.

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Arden Moore: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: I mean, it's like the hoodie with the pouch, you know, for the cat.

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Arden Moore: Oh, the cat can slide in.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: Like a kangaroo pouch.

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Abram Engle: So it's a nice, like, you know, the cat's comfortable chilling.

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Abram Engle: You feel close to them.

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Abram Engle: And then it's just awesome.

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Abram Engle: It really is.

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Abram Engle: I have had one before, like the furry ones.

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Abram Engle: You know, those like super furry ones for the winter.

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Abram Engle: It's like a not so heavy duty one of those.

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Abram Engle: And yeah, pretty exciting.

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Arden Moore: Well, what I understand is the company Felix Cat Insurance, they want to give back.

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Abram Engle: Yes.

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Arden Moore: So 100 percent right of all the hoodie proceeds, I think it's cost about 50 bucks.

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Arden Moore: You're going to donate it to the Nashville Humane Association.

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Arden Moore: What?

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Arden Moore: Nice.

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Arden Moore: Tell us about that.

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Abram Engle: They let me pick something that I am tied into.

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Abram Engle: And so that is a local humane association that I have worked with a lot.

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Abram Engle: I actually did a Mutt Gala with them this year.

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Arden Moore: Say it again.

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Arden Moore: What?

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Abram Engle: A Mutt Gala.

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Abram Engle: It was like a dog walk.

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Abram Engle: And so I participated in that and I've done some charity work with them.

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Abram Engle: So I was super excited when they said that because I was like, yes, let's do it with Nashville Humane Association.

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Abram Engle: And they worked it out.

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Abram Engle: So 100 percent of the proceeds are going to them.

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Arden Moore: That is really nice.

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Arden Moore: Abram, I mean, you live in Nashville now, right?

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Abram Engle: Yes.

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Arden Moore: But you came from a little tiny town.

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Arden Moore: Where did you come from?

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Abram Engle: Purvis, Purvis, Mississippi.

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Arden Moore: It is Purvis, Mississippi.

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Arden Moore: Where is Purvis, Mississippi?

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Abram Engle: It's like 15, 20 minutes away from Hattiesburg, Mississippi, which is like an hour away from the coast.

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Abram Engle: That's like kind of a bigger city.

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Abram Engle: But yeah, it's a it's a small, small town down there.

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Arden Moore: How small was your high school graduating class?

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Abram Engle: I think around 115 or 120.

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Arden Moore: So you knew everybody in your class?

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Abram Engle: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Abram Engle: 100 percent.

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Arden Moore: So if you told everybody that you graduated like 20th in your class, you know, I came from a school where we had 563 graduate.

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Arden Moore: You would have sounded like a genius, right?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, I know.

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Abram Engle: See, I don't remember exactly where I graduated.

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Abram Engle: It was between 10 and 20.

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Abram Engle: And so when I tell people that, it sounds like...

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Arden Moore: Don't tell them how many seniors were there.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: Just don't mention the size.

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Arden Moore: So you graduate and you say, I think I'm going to be a major cat dad influencer on social media.

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Arden Moore: I mean, your timing, you're a young man.

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Arden Moore: Your timing is perfect because if you were born 20 years earlier, you would not be having a job yet.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: Oh, yeah.

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Arden Moore: So tell us about the transition.

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Arden Moore: What happened when you graduated from high school?

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Arden Moore: And you said, you know, I think I've got this talent, this skill.

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Arden Moore: And tell us about that.

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Abram Engle: So the way it started was I was still a senior in high school when I posted a video of Kurt for the first time.

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Abram Engle: And it was just when I got him as a kitten and it kind of started gaining traction.

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Abram Engle: And then I still when I graduated high school, which I was a 2020 graduate, so it was a big.

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Arden Moore: That was a fun time.

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Arden Moore: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: That was didn't even graduate technically, but got the diploma.

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Abram Engle: But after that, yes, because it was all during COVID.

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Abram Engle: But, oh, no, after I think I had like I had some followers on social media, like from senior high school.

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Abram Engle: But I was like, it still wasn't enough to make like anything out of it.

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Abram Engle: So I still I went to college at first.

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Arden Moore: OK, was it in Mississippi?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, it was a small junior college.

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Abram Engle: It was Jones Community College.

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Arden Moore: Did they have more than 100 students?

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Abram Engle: Yes.

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Abram Engle: But it was still a small, small school.

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Abram Engle: And it got to a point where I was focusing a little bit more on social media as it was growing compared to school.

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Abram Engle: And I was just like, you know what?

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Abram Engle: I can always go back to school.

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Abram Engle: I'm about to take a risk on social media and see what comes from it.

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Arden Moore: I like that.

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Arden Moore: What were you thinking about majoring in?

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Abram Engle: I was majoring in business at the time.

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Abram Engle: Very simple.

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Abram Engle: I mean, I didn't really know exactly what I wanted to do yet.

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Abram Engle: And so I just kind of chose business because it's always been interesting to me.

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Arden Moore: And I ask you because I just feel for you all that graduated in the class of 2020, 2021.

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Arden Moore: I mean, how hard was that?

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Arden Moore: You were at home, right?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, it was weird.

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Abram Engle: They kind of sent us off and was like, all right, you get a two week spring break and then never saw anyone again.

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Abram Engle: So it was it was pretty it was pretty crazy.

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Abram Engle: And then that also went into college of like we couldn't even go to college.

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Abram Engle: I was just doing online college.

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Abram Engle: And then eventually when we could go back to campus, it was like you had to go to a station and get covid tested every time.

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Abram Engle: So it was just my college experience wasn't amazing because of that.

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Abram Engle: So that probably also played a part.

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Arden Moore: Well, you're at home and you're in front of a screen.

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Arden Moore: It's almost like destiny knocked on your door and said, Abram, I think you need to look into social media, right?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, yeah.

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Arden Moore: So you took a really crappy time.

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Arden Moore: I'm proud of you.

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Arden Moore: And you said, I'm going to do something with this, right?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, yeah.

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Arden Moore: So do you have some tips that you could offer people that are thinking about starting a TikTok, Instagram, Facebook?

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Arden Moore: I'm finally monetized.

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Arden Moore: Woo, woo, woo, woo.

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Arden Moore: I have almost 800 videos on YouTube.

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Arden Moore: I got TikTok and Instagram, but I'm late to the party.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Arden Moore: But I love it because when you were in school, I wrote 27 pet books, which who cares about pet books?

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Arden Moore: Now they want the videos.

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Arden Moore: So you can reach anybody at any age.

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Arden Moore: So do you have a few tips that you can help people?

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Arden Moore: They're just, I mean, you got a cool side guy, Kurt, the cat.

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Arden Moore: But tell us a little bit about maybe a few tips starting out or where you went for help.

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Abram Engle: So back then, when I first started TikTok, the algorithm was a little different.

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Abram Engle: It was a lot like you just had to get people's attention, really, basically.

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Abram Engle: So that was very important.

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Abram Engle: So and that still is today.

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Abram Engle: The first thing I would say is always make it something that you would watch yourself.

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Abram Engle: Because a lot of times people get in a groove of like, they'll just make something to say they made it, and then it's not even something they're interested in.

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Abram Engle: So make sure it's good just to you.

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Abram Engle: Because if it's just good to you at first, then some other people will also share that insight.

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Arden Moore: That's a good tip.

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Arden Moore: I like that.

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Abram Engle: That and then this one's typical, but consistency.

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Abram Engle: I mean, that is absolutely massive.

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Abram Engle: When I started YouTube, I didn't grow at all for a year and a half.

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Abram Engle: And I just kept doing it and kept doing it.

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Abram Engle: Kept doing it.

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Abram Engle: And that's when it like consistency is just huge on platforms like that.

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Arden Moore: Just keep posting, keep posting.

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Abram Engle: Like YouTube, especially.

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Abram Engle: That's what I would say for YouTube is keep posting.

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Arden Moore: I mean, how many times a week are you doing it?

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Arden Moore: Seven times a day.

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Arden Moore: Are you doing it seven times a week?

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Abram Engle: What's a good good back when I first started, I was doing twice a day.

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Abram Engle: And now I just do one time a day for shorts.

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Abram Engle: That's for YouTube shorts for long form.

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Abram Engle: I'm like once or twice a week.

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Abram Engle: I'm trying to do more long form, long form.

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Abram Engle: I'm still trying to figure out that myself.

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Abram Engle: Long form content is hard.

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Arden Moore: Well, that's what the show is going to be on my YouTube channel.

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Arden Moore: So you are going to raise your right paw and say, I promise Arden to subscribe to your show.

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Abram Engle: Yes, yes.

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Arden Moore: Right.

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Arden Moore: OK, you raise your right paw.

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Abram Engle: I got you.

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Arden Moore: All right, because I'm going to subscribe to yours.

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Arden Moore: But shorts versus something like this, which is a show that's going to be now on YouTube, tell people the difference because I think there's Benny's to both.

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Abram Engle: Yeah, so shorts is vertical versus horizontal.

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Abram Engle: That's the biggest difference.

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Abram Engle: And then shorts is also has to be under 60 seconds.

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Abram Engle: And it's a completely different like monetary.

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Abram Engle: The adsense on them are both completely different.

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Abram Engle: But YouTube shorts is basically YouTube's counter to TikTok.

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Abram Engle: So it's just like basically TikTok and Instagram Reel style videos on YouTube.

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Arden Moore: You're doing really good.

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Arden Moore: You sure you're not a professor?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, I'm sure I'm positive.

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Arden Moore: Hey, everyone.

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Arden Moore: We're speaking with Abram Engle.

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Arden Moore: We're going to dive in a little bit because he's got the secret weapon that purrs.

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Arden Moore: And that is a beautiful bud named Kurt.

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Arden Moore: And we're going to talk more about his role, his life and why real men love cats.

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Arden Moore: After we take this break, you all know the drill.

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Arden Moore: We got to sit purr.

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Arden Moore: We'll be right back.

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Announcer: Here's Arden.

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Arden Moore: Welcome back to the Oh Behave show on Pet Life Radio.

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Arden Moore: I'm your host, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: I am getting schooled in a great way with a young genius by the name of Abram Engle.

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Arden Moore: He's out of Nashville now, and for those that can see this on YouTube, he's dedicated his probably entire apartment to a four-legged bro.

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Arden Moore: There's a bro-mance going, and the bro is named Kurt.

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Arden Moore: I understand you have what is called half birthday anniversaries.

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Arden Moore: Did I do my homework?

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Abram Engle: Yes.

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Abram Engle: That's crazy.

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Abram Engle: That's a deep cut.

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Arden Moore: April 25th and what?

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Arden Moore: What's the other one?

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Abram Engle: October 25th.

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Arden Moore: All right.

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Arden Moore: Tell people.

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Arden Moore: I've never heard that saying, so tell us what that is.

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Abram Engle: So we share a half birthday.

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Abram Engle: Basically our birthdays are exactly six months apart.

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Abram Engle: So like when it's his birthday, it's exactly six months away from my birthday and vice versa.

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Abram Engle: So, and obviously his birthday is a guesstimate.

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Abram Engle: I don't know exactly what birthday he's on, but I did not do that on purpose because I didn't even realize we had half birthdays until last year.

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Arden Moore: So how did you and Kurt get together?

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Arden Moore: Were you getting a latte somewhere?

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Arden Moore: I mean, were you singing a cat song and he showed up?

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Arden Moore: What happened?

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Abram Engle: So it is a long story, but I'll make it shortened.

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Abram Engle: He came originally from a street fair where they were just handing out kittens and they weren't really, I guess they weren't really paying attention to who they were giving them to because Kurt ended up in one of my friend's little sister's hands who didn't even ask her parents if she could have a cat.

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Abram Engle: And so they were like, once she brought it home, they were like, no, you cannot have this cat.

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Abram Engle: Like we need to get rid of it.

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Abram Engle: And they could not find a home for it.

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Abram Engle: And so I asked my mom, I was like, can I please take this cat?

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Abram Engle: And she said no.

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Abram Engle: And I was like, OK.

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Abram Engle: And so I went over to my friend's house and I was like, I can't because like they were gonna they did not want the kitten at all.

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Abram Engle: And so it was basically like either I take it or there's no telling what's going to happen to this kitten.

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Abram Engle: So I just took it home.

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Abram Engle: And when my mom got home, I was like, I did something and I'm sorry, but hey, mom, I didn't smoke a joint.

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Arden Moore: I actually just brought home a cat.

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Abram Engle: Yeah, I brought home a kitten.

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Abram Engle: So I call I call Kurt a street cat because he originally came from a street fair and he was probably going to end up on the streets if I didn't take him.

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Abram Engle: So it's it was a wild, confusing story.

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Abram Engle: But yeah, he it was destiny.

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Abram Engle: He ended up with me.

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Abram Engle: So it was awesome.

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Arden Moore: What's he like?

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Arden Moore: What's his personality?

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Arden Moore: What do you dig about Kurt?

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Abram Engle: I mean, I guess this is kind of a selfish thing that I like, but he definitely chose me as his human.

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Abram Engle: And so like he he's not mean to other people, but he definitely is not just he won't just walk up to you and let you hold him basically, which just makes his personality very unique because he's not mean.

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Abram Engle: He won't ever like just straight up bite you.

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Abram Engle: But like I am his person.

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Abram Engle: Like I only I am going to be able to do that, which I think came from him being a covid kitten and he was just with me for that long.

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Arden Moore: That's right.

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Arden Moore: That's right.

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Arden Moore: There's that covid again.

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Abram Engle: Yeah, I think that's what correlated that was he was just with me for like two years.

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Arden Moore: So, you know, I'm so glad you didn't name him covid.

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Arden Moore: Thank you.

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Abram Engle: No, yeah, I didn't.

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Abram Engle: I did not.

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Arden Moore: My God.

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Arden Moore: So I understand you had him dance to Don Toliver's No Idea and you, according to my research, you got four million likes.

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Arden Moore: What happened on that video?

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Abram Engle: That was actually the first video that blew up of Kurt.

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Abram Engle: So I mean, this is an interesting story.

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Abram Engle: Me and my friend were on a race to see who could get to 10,000 followers first on TikTok because it was a little easier to get followers back then.

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Abram Engle: The value of a follower was not as big as it is now, but we were just messing around and I had just got like Kurt like a week ago and I was like, I always see dancing on my For You page.

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Abram Engle: I always see like kittens and cats on my For You page, which was probably my fault because I just like videos of cats all the time.

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Arden Moore: So I was like, there are no apologies needed.

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Arden Moore: You're out of Pet Show.

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Abram Engle: Exactly.

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Abram Engle: Exactly.

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Abram Engle: So I was like, I'm just going to combine the two.

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Abram Engle: I'm going to dance with them, see what happens.

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Abram Engle: And so I danced with him.

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Arden Moore: He was like, does he got some moves?

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Arden Moore: Does he get moves?

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Abram Engle: Oh yeah, he does.

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Abram Engle: And he does not.

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Abram Engle: I don't know why.

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Abram Engle: He just does not care what I do.

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Abram Engle: I can pick him up and just wiggle him around.

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Abram Engle: He does not care.

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Abram Engle: So I posted that and went to sleep and the next day I was exempt from my exams.

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Abram Engle: So I didn't wake up till later and my phone was blowing up with my friends texting me like, dude, go look at your video.

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Arden Moore: Oh, that has to be exciting.

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Abram Engle: I mean, yes, I went and looked at it and it had like millions of views.

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Abram Engle: And by the end of that day, I was trying to get to 10,000.

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Abram Engle: And by the end of that day, I had 100,000 followers off that.

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Arden Moore: So how did you celebrate?

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Abram Engle: I went to the gym with my friend.

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Abram Engle: I didn't know.

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Arden Moore: I lifted weights.

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Abram Engle: Yeah, I mean, I was just I mean, it was awesome.

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Abram Engle: It was right before Christmas.

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Abram Engle: I mean, that was before like I'd never envisioned that was before social media became.

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Abram Engle: I was like, oh, I could do social media.

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Abram Engle: That was just doing it for fun, which it's still fun to this day.

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Abram Engle: That's what makes it amazing and a blessing.

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Abram Engle: But that was yeah, it was a very interesting story how that happened.

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Arden Moore: And why do you like that?

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Arden Moore: No idea song.

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Arden Moore: What's it about?

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Abram Engle: It was just a trend at the time.

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Abram Engle: It was just a vibe.

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Abram Engle: It was a song that everybody was dancing to at the time.

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Abram Engle: So I just did it.

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Arden Moore: All right.

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Arden Moore: You talked at the very beginning that, you know, do videos, do posts.

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Arden Moore: That is something that you enjoy.

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Arden Moore: Obviously, what is it about cats?

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Arden Moore: My brother loves cats.

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Arden Moore: And I say at the top of the hour, real men love cats.

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Arden Moore: What is it about cats that you really enjoy?

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Arden Moore: What is it?

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Abram Engle: I would say, I guess it goes to their personality.

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Abram Engle: They're very much like, you're never going to meet a cat that's just like another cat.

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Abram Engle: They are always so much their own personality and they're independent.

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Abram Engle: So it's kind of like having more of a friend and a roommate than a pet because, I mean, they're chilling, they're doing their own thing.

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Abram Engle: And then you just, I mean, they're so interactive with how they just react to everything.

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Abram Engle: I mean, Kurt will walk around the house and he hears one squeak on the other side and he's running to go see what that was.

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Abram Engle: I don't know.

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Abram Engle: It's very, I know that's probably a weird answer, but I just think-

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Abram Engle: No, no.

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Arden Moore: It's where you come from the heart, man.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: I just think their personalities, it's just, it's super cool.

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Abram Engle: They're just, they're very unique animals and of themselves and just all like the stereotypes of them are so funny because they're true how like they can live without you, honestly.

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Abram Engle: They don't really need you and it's just kind of funny.

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Abram Engle: So-

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Arden Moore: Well, can I share?

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Arden Moore: I teach, I'm a pet behaviorist and we say that dogs put the D in drool, the O in obey, the G in goofy and the S in seconds, please.

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Arden Moore: But cats, they put the C in candid, the A in attitude, the T in tenacious, and you're going to love this one.

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Arden Moore: The S in so what?

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Arden Moore: Is that what you're talking about?

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Abram Engle: Yes, exactly.

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Abram Engle: I mean, that's perfect.

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Abram Engle: I could, I should have just said that if I knew that I would have said that.

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Arden Moore: You can use it.

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Arden Moore: You can use it.

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Arden Moore: It's an Arden original.

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Arden Moore: You can use it.

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Arden Moore: But I think it's kind of cool to have somebody that's not needy.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: Yeah.

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Arden Moore: Right?

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Abram Engle: Yeah, for sure.

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Abram Engle: I mean, I love dogs too.

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Abram Engle: Don't get me wrong.

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Arden Moore: Yeah.

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Abram Engle: I'm an animal.

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Abram Engle: I love animals in general.

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Arden Moore: No, no.

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Arden Moore: You already went to the Mutt Gala.

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Abram Engle: Yeah, that's true.

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Arden Moore: So speaking of that, isn't there some big celebration coming up in your personal life involving somebody named Hagen?

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Abram Engle: Yes.

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Abram Engle: I'm getting married in June.

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Abram Engle: Same month as Father's Day.

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Abram Engle: Thank you.

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Abram Engle: Thank you.

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Arden Moore: So is Kurt going to have any role in the wedding?

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Arden Moore: He's not going to give the vows, I hope, right?

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Abram Engle: He's not.

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Abram Engle: He's not.

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Abram Engle: He's also a lot of people are at like saying like, oh, he's got to be your best man.

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Abram Engle: He's got to be your best man, which I do have a brother who's a human.

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Arden Moore: So I don't think your mother.

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Abram Engle: OK, I don't know how he would feel if I've heard over him, but he's not the best man.

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Arden Moore: That would blow up social media.

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Abram Engle: Oh, yeah, I know.

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Abram Engle: I know we will be getting constant with them.

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Abram Engle: I have like a little window where we're going to get like pictures with him, but it is going to be in June and outside is going to be extremely hot.

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Abram Engle: So he's not going to be out there for the reception just because he doesn't need to be.

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Abram Engle: That would not be the best.

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Arden Moore: Right.

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Abram Engle: But there will be content of him on wedding day.

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Arden Moore: And how does Hagen like Kurt?

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Abram Engle: Oh, Hagen loves him.

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Abram Engle: Hagen is a big cat person herself.

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Abram Engle: So she grew up her family.

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Abram Engle: They have like five or six cats.

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Abram Engle: So she loves it now.

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Abram Engle: Kurt is a little selective with her.

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Abram Engle: I think he's a little jealous that she gets attention when she comes over here.

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Arden Moore: But he's a cat.

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Arden Moore: He'll never tell you that.

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Abram Engle: Oh, oh, oh, yeah.

00:21:12.340 --> 00:21:13.680
Arden Moore: It's okay, bro.

00:21:13.700 --> 00:21:16.440
Arden Moore: Yeah, you can put your arm around her, but you know, I'm your main squeeze.

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Abram Engle: So, it's going to be funny there.

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Abram Engle: It's yeah, I've already made videos on it before they bond and all that.

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Abram Engle: And he he lets her touch him when it's on his accord, but if he's not feeling it, he's not feeling it.

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Arden Moore: So that's all right.

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Arden Moore: I don't know where I got these stats.

00:21:32.840 --> 00:21:36.260
Arden Moore: Your people sent me these stats, maybe from Felix Cat Insurance.

00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:39.080
Arden Moore: They said over the last four years, I did not realize this.

00:21:39.180 --> 00:21:42.300
Arden Moore: 27% of men have adopted cats.

00:21:42.740 --> 00:21:49.360
Arden Moore: Oh, yeah, 18% of women, you guys are slow to the party, but dudes are getting cats, right?

00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.780
Abram Engle: It's taken over the crazy, the crazy cat lady stereotype.

00:21:52.800 --> 00:21:55.880
Arden Moore: It's cat daddies, cat daddies.

00:21:56.580 --> 00:22:00.920
Arden Moore: I know a few cat daddies, Nathan, Ken and Sterling Trap King Davis.

00:22:01.280 --> 00:22:02.580
Arden Moore: Have you ever met those guys?

00:22:02.600 --> 00:22:04.200
Arden Moore: They're kind of big in social media, too.

00:22:04.220 --> 00:22:06.720
Arden Moore: They're they're like 20 years older than you, man.

00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:07.300
Abram Engle: Yeah.

00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:08.700
Arden Moore: So you're the next generation.

00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:10.380
Arden Moore: So people in their 20s.

00:22:10.800 --> 00:22:16.400
Arden Moore: So where do you see yourself with Kurt a year from now, five years from now in the terms of social media?

00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:17.300
Arden Moore: What's your mission?

00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:25.760
Abram Engle: So I definitely want to branch to like helping other cats in general, like more stuff with the Humane Society and cat cafes.

00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:27.780
Arden Moore: Cat cafes are pretty fun now.

00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:28.500
Arden Moore: I love that.

00:22:28.520 --> 00:22:31.820
Abram Engle: I love cat cafes that that would also be a dream of mine to open one one day.

00:22:32.020 --> 00:22:34.180
Arden Moore: That would be it could be a reality.

00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:35.000
Arden Moore: Come on, Abram.

00:22:35.020 --> 00:22:36.200
Arden Moore: You got that for sure.

00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:36.600
Abram Engle: I don't know.

00:22:36.620 --> 00:22:40.280
Abram Engle: I don't know in five years time, but I do want to open one one day.

00:22:40.300 --> 00:22:44.700
Abram Engle: I guess in five years, definitely more YouTube, long form stuff, helping out other cats.

00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:45.580
Abram Engle: There he goes.

00:22:45.600 --> 00:22:46.100
Arden Moore: I see him.

00:22:46.360 --> 00:22:47.800
Arden Moore: He's going to he's going to climb.

00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:50.820
Abram Engle: Also starting a I'm working.

00:22:51.040 --> 00:22:54.280
Abram Engle: This is still secretive, but we are okay.

00:22:54.300 --> 00:22:54.640
Arden Moore: Don't worry.

00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:58.600
Arden Moore: We only have like hundreds of thousands of watching and listening, but that's okay with that.

00:22:58.620 --> 00:22:59.700
Arden Moore: It's just between all of us.

00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:00.100
Arden Moore: Go ahead.

00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:01.080
Arden Moore: Spill the beans.

00:23:01.500 --> 00:23:03.460
Abram Engle: It's working on a company right now.

00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:06.540
Abram Engle: We've been working on it for the past like 10 months.

00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:13.980
Arden Moore: So I'm super excited to launch that when things get going and all you open a cat cafe or this launches, let us know.

00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:14.980
Arden Moore: We'll have you back on.

00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:16.200
Arden Moore: That sounds good.

00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:17.200
Arden Moore: It sounds awesome.

00:23:17.320 --> 00:23:24.300
Arden Moore: I see that you had people ask questions to you about your cat and it was kind of funny.

00:23:24.320 --> 00:23:25.940
Arden Moore: I was listening to one of your videos.

00:23:26.300 --> 00:23:29.240
Arden Moore: So people ask you the weirdest things about Kurt, don't they?

00:23:29.380 --> 00:23:29.700
Abram Engle: Yeah.

00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:30.780
Abram Engle: Yeah, they do.

00:23:30.800 --> 00:23:32.420
Arden Moore: Can you share a few that you're like, what?

00:23:33.140 --> 00:23:35.820
Abram Engle: I mean, they always ask me if he's going to get married.

00:23:35.940 --> 00:23:38.980
Abram Engle: So that's always I don't really know how to respond to that.

00:23:39.840 --> 00:23:40.460
Arden Moore: Good don't.

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:41.340
Abram Engle: Yeah.

00:23:41.420 --> 00:23:48.300
Abram Engle: I mean, as I mean, I'm trying to think of there's always some crazy ones like ask me if he's going to get married, ask me if he can drive.

00:23:48.740 --> 00:23:51.420
Arden Moore: Maybe they've been getting into the catnip a little too much.

00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:51.780
Abram Engle: Yeah.

00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:53.180
Abram Engle: Sounds like it.

00:23:54.780 --> 00:23:57.520
Arden Moore: So how do you keep engaged your audience?

00:23:57.780 --> 00:23:59.880
Arden Moore: Because you can't write to everybody.

00:23:59.900 --> 00:24:02.740
Arden Moore: Do you have any tips on that where you're being polite?

00:24:02.760 --> 00:24:04.940
Arden Moore: You're showing them that you appreciate them.

00:24:05.340 --> 00:24:13.200
Arden Moore: You know, you're kind of like the Caitlin Clark of Katmend, you know, so she can't answer every social media post after she sinks a three pointer.

00:24:13.380 --> 00:24:15.700
Arden Moore: So what kind of tips can you give people?

00:24:16.060 --> 00:24:19.120
Arden Moore: You want to stay connected, but you also need to sleep.

00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:19.700
Arden Moore: Yeah.

00:24:19.700 --> 00:24:26.760
Abram Engle: I mean, I try to just when I post, I'll stay on for like the next hour responding to some comments and stuff.

00:24:27.120 --> 00:24:28.080
Arden Moore: OK, that's a good tip.

00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:29.760
Abram Engle: Yeah, responding to comments.

00:24:29.760 --> 00:24:36.140
Abram Engle: And then like I think it's obvious there's no way I'm going to respond to every single comment because that would just be a little wild.

00:24:36.380 --> 00:24:37.980
Abram Engle: And like you said, I do need sleep.

00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:49.940
Abram Engle: But responding to some comments and I also do like Instagram, like polls, then I have my Instagram broadcast channel just to like do more personal stuff to where like it's connecting with the audience to let them know.

00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:52.140
Abram Engle: Like, look, we're all in this.

00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.960
Abram Engle: This is the attention's on Kurt, the attention's on Kurt.

00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:55.620
Abram Engle: It's all about Kurt.

00:24:55.980 --> 00:25:00.140
Abram Engle: I'm just his, I guess I don't even know what you would call me in the social media world.

00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:00.860
Abram Engle: Yeah, his dad.

00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:04.400
Abram Engle: But like, I feel like I'm his bodyguard in a sense, really just.

00:25:04.560 --> 00:25:05.900
Arden Moore: Well, you're his bro, man.

00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:06.580
Arden Moore: You're his bro.

00:25:06.660 --> 00:25:07.300
Arden Moore: It's OK.

00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:10.780
Arden Moore: Have you ever or will you ever see Garfield, the movie?

00:25:10.900 --> 00:25:12.120
Arden Moore: It's got Chris Platt in it.

00:25:12.320 --> 00:25:13.440
Abram Engle: Oh, yeah, I'm excited.

00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:15.780
Abram Engle: I am going to see that.

00:25:15.900 --> 00:25:16.260
Abram Engle: I am.

00:25:16.280 --> 00:25:18.060
Abram Engle: I have not seen it yet, but I will.

00:25:18.300 --> 00:25:20.720
Arden Moore: Did you ever read Garfield, the cartoon or?

00:25:20.860 --> 00:25:22.240
Abram Engle: No, the TV show.

00:25:22.260 --> 00:25:23.420
Abram Engle: I watched some of the TV show.

00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:24.120
Abram Engle: I did.

00:25:24.140 --> 00:25:24.880
Abram Engle: I never read it, though.

00:25:25.120 --> 00:25:29.540
Arden Moore: So is there some about orange Tabby's you really like or you just happen to have Kurt?

00:25:29.700 --> 00:25:31.360
Abram Engle: No, I just I happen to have Kurt.

00:25:31.380 --> 00:25:33.520
Abram Engle: I do love them now.

00:25:33.540 --> 00:25:35.420
Abram Engle: They're like their specific personalities.

00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:39.300
Abram Engle: It's funny once you like have a certain cat, you know, their different personalities.

00:25:39.320 --> 00:25:39.760
Abram Engle: They have.

00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:41.600
Abram Engle: And yeah, orange cats.

00:25:41.620 --> 00:25:44.700
Abram Engle: People always say Kurt is like the only orange cat with a brain cell.

00:25:44.900 --> 00:25:46.280
Abram Engle: So I think that's funny.

00:25:46.420 --> 00:25:47.000
Arden Moore: Wait a minute.

00:25:47.020 --> 00:25:48.880
Arden Moore: I have an orange Tabby Casey.

00:25:50.060 --> 00:25:50.720
Arden Moore: Wait a minute.

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.000
Abram Engle: He also has a brain cell.

00:25:52.020 --> 00:25:52.600
Abram Engle: I'm sure of it.

00:25:52.620 --> 00:25:54.380
Arden Moore: He goes, dude, dude, look at me, man.

00:25:54.580 --> 00:25:54.900
Abram Engle: Exactly.

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.520
Arden Moore: I'm already going to go out for kitty cocktails with Kurt after the show.

00:25:58.540 --> 00:25:59.020
Abram Engle: Yeah.

00:25:59.040 --> 00:26:00.420
Arden Moore: Does Kurt have a middle name?

00:26:00.700 --> 00:26:02.580
Abram Engle: No, that's also a question people ask.

00:26:02.600 --> 00:26:03.640
Abram Engle: He does not have a middle name.

00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:05.840
Arden Moore: He doesn't have a nickname.

00:26:06.020 --> 00:26:08.240
Abram Engle: I mean, I call them a lot of stuff.

00:26:08.260 --> 00:26:11.220
Abram Engle: Curious Kurt, Kurticus, Kurtie, Kurtie, wordy.

00:26:11.540 --> 00:26:14.080
Abram Engle: I mean, whatever comes to my head, I'll call them random stuff.

00:26:14.080 --> 00:26:14.460
Abram Engle: Really.

00:26:14.980 --> 00:26:15.460
Abram Engle: All right.

00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.800
Arden Moore: Well, we're so glad that you could be on our show, Abram.

00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.580
Arden Moore: Yes, he's now going to ruin all the transmissions.

00:26:22.600 --> 00:26:23.960
Arden Moore: So hey, come over here.

00:26:24.120 --> 00:26:24.680
Arden Moore: There you go.

00:26:25.060 --> 00:26:26.920
Arden Moore: But keep doing what you're doing.

00:26:27.040 --> 00:26:30.980
Arden Moore: And the people from your little town in, was it Mississippi?

00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:31.580
Arden Moore: Yes.

00:26:31.820 --> 00:26:32.740
Arden Moore: Look at you now.

00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:33.820
Arden Moore: Look at you now.

00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:34.320
Arden Moore: Right.

00:26:34.600 --> 00:26:39.540
Arden Moore: And I love this because you came on and you followed your passion and look what's happening.

00:26:39.580 --> 00:26:40.440
Arden Moore: That's pretty cool.

00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:41.560
Abram Engle: Yeah, it's crazy.

00:26:41.580 --> 00:26:46.120
Arden Moore: You had a major stumble block COVID, you know, parked everybody at home.

00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:53.520
Arden Moore: And so I just want to let you know, I salute you for doing something and not just saying, well, I can't do anything till it's all over.

00:26:53.780 --> 00:26:55.240
Arden Moore: You just kept you kept going.

00:26:55.260 --> 00:26:59.220
Arden Moore: So I will be one of the first to come to your cat cafe when you open it.

00:26:59.340 --> 00:26:59.800
Abram Engle: Thank you.

00:26:59.820 --> 00:27:00.660
Abram Engle: I appreciate that.

00:27:01.020 --> 00:27:03.320
Arden Moore: And by the way, I'm actually a licensed bartender.

00:27:03.340 --> 00:27:07.560
Arden Moore: I have created 50 cocktails, kitty cocktails for people.

00:27:08.040 --> 00:27:10.840
Arden Moore: So if you ever need any kitty cocktails, let me know.

00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:15.500
Arden Moore: So yeah, I will hit you up and we also want to thank the Felix Cat Insurance.

00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:16.400
Arden Moore: They brought you on.

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:20.920
Arden Moore: Insurance is very important because medical bills can be very, very high.

00:27:21.060 --> 00:27:32.620
Arden Moore: But everybody check out them and see about these hoodies with the pouches and with the money going directly to benefit your designated charity, the Nashville Humane Association.

00:27:32.760 --> 00:27:33.100
Abram Engle: Yes.

00:27:33.420 --> 00:27:34.480
Arden Moore: That's a good thing you did.

00:27:34.500 --> 00:27:36.640
Arden Moore: You're a good young man.

00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:39.920
Arden Moore: So anything else you'd like to add before we say goodbye?

00:27:40.120 --> 00:27:40.720
Abram Engle: No, that's it.

00:27:40.740 --> 00:27:41.540
Abram Engle: Thank you for having me.

00:27:41.580 --> 00:27:42.320
Abram Engle: I appreciate it.

00:27:42.460 --> 00:27:43.440
Arden Moore: You survived, didn't you?

00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:44.320
Arden Moore: It was not so bad.

00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:45.160
Arden Moore: All right.

00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:46.260
Arden Moore: Hey, everybody.

00:27:46.280 --> 00:27:53.540
Arden Moore: Again, we want to thank Abram Engle and probably grooming himself in the background is his famous guy, the Orange Tabby Kurt.

00:27:53.660 --> 00:27:55.400
Arden Moore: Check them out on social media.

00:27:55.620 --> 00:27:57.240
Arden Moore: Do you want to give your TikTok?

00:27:57.260 --> 00:27:57.560
Arden Moore: Come on.

00:27:57.580 --> 00:27:58.300
Arden Moore: I forgot to ask you.

00:27:58.320 --> 00:27:59.020
Arden Moore: What's your hand?

00:27:59.040 --> 00:28:02.340
Abram Engle: You know, on TikTok, it's Abram Engle without the LE of my name.

00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:06.560
Abram Engle: I don't know why I did that, but I did Instagram, Abram Engle, YouTube, Abram Engle.

00:28:06.840 --> 00:28:07.780
Arden Moore: So all right.

00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:08.960
Arden Moore: Keep it simple, right?

00:28:09.100 --> 00:28:09.300
Arden Moore: Yes.

00:28:09.320 --> 00:28:09.800
Arden Moore: Keep it simple.

00:28:10.280 --> 00:28:16.500
Arden Moore: And everybody, you can follow me at Arden Moore on YouTube, fourleggedlife.com, Arden moore.com.

00:28:16.620 --> 00:28:21.140
Arden Moore: I'm on Facebook and TikTok and nowhere in his stratosphere, but I'm trying.

00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:34.940
Arden Moore: And if you have a pet that you want to learn how to keep them safe, check with me because I teach pet first aid with a real dog, Kona, and a real cat, Casey, all over the world on Zoom and in person.

00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:36.300
Arden Moore: And Mr.

00:28:36.320 --> 00:28:42.460
Arden Moore: Abram, I just came back from a sponsored trip where I taught over 300 people in England and in Greece.

00:28:42.820 --> 00:28:43.380
Abram Engle: Wow.

00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:44.460
Abram Engle: That's awesome.

00:28:45.020 --> 00:28:45.780
Abram Engle: That is awesome.

00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:49.540
Arden Moore: Anyway, check out all the shows on Pet Life Radio.

00:28:49.560 --> 00:28:51.360
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00:28:51.620 --> 00:28:54.980
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00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.960
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00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.280
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00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:12.760
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00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.900
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