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Shawn Campana has been a firefighter with Miami Dade Fire Rescue for the past 24 years. She currently holds the rank of Captain and has been on special assignment for the past 3 years as the Peer Support K9 Coordinator to build the MDFR K9 program.

She joined the Peer Support Team in 2015 and began the K9 component pilot studies in 2016. Her role as the K9 Coordinator includes setting standards for training and certifications, writing policy for the 3 parts of the program which includes Crisis Response K9s and Therapy Dogs for the CISM team response, Station dog etiquette and training, and Service Dog training for MDFR firefighters struggling with mental health issues.

She started the program after losing friends/coworkers suicide, and going through her own battle with PTSD, and has seen the value and benefits in healing working with canines can provide. She became a certified dog trainer from Animal Behavior College, specializing in Service, Therapy and Crisis Response K9s. She started the program with her Service Dog Charlie. Charlie is a Service Dog, Therapy Dog and Crisis Response K9.

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Announcer: So get ready for the pause and applause as we unleash your Oh Behave host, America's pet edutainer, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: Welcome to the Oh Behave show on Pet Life Radio.

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Arden Moore: I'm your host, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: Hey, you're about to meet not one, but two heroes.

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Arden Moore: Together, they are saving lives and unleashing pure love.

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Arden Moore: I am honored to welcome to our show the captain of Fire Station 31 at Miami-Dade and her amazing Greyhound.

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Arden Moore: Please give pause and applause to Captain Shawn Campana and her service dog, Charlie.

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Arden Moore: Welcome, welcome.

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Arden Moore: Look at Charlie.

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Arden Moore: Charlie's digging it.

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Shawn Campana: That's a good ear scratch, you know.

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Arden Moore: Yeah, Charlie goes, this is my best side.

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Arden Moore: No, that's my best side.

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Arden Moore: Hey, everyone, just strap yourselves in because their story is all about rescuing and generating hope.

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Arden Moore: Captain Shawn, that just sounds good.

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Arden Moore: Captain Shawn, how long have you been a captain in Miami-Dade Fire Department?

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Shawn Campana: Over 15 years at this rank, but I've got totally 26 years with Miami-Dade Fire Rescue.

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Arden Moore: Now, most kids, when they dream of maybe being an astronaut or something, did you always want to be a firefighter?

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Shawn Campana: Well, I actually wanted to be three things, a school teacher, a nurse and an astronaut.

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Shawn Campana: But they didn't work out and I ended up on the fire department.

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Arden Moore: How did that happen?

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Shawn Campana: I had moved to Miami and, you know, I used to work out.

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Shawn Campana: I was very athletic and I saw the fire engines driving around and I just knew that I could do it.

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Shawn Campana: And I always love a good challenge.

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Shawn Campana: So sure enough, I went by, visited some stations and I just kind of fell in love, like with the trucks and the hoses and, you know, the station life.

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Shawn Campana: And so eventually I started applying to get hired.

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Arden Moore: It's not easy, is it?

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Shawn Campana: No, it isn't.

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Shawn Campana: There's a lot of competition and you have to be in very good shape.

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Shawn Campana: You have to pass physical tests, written tests, psychological tests.

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Shawn Campana: So, yeah, it took me about five years, but eventually I got hired.

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Arden Moore: And I mean, you and I have something in common.

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Arden Moore: We have tall phone voices.

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Arden Moore: How tall are you?

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Shawn Campana: I'm five, three and a half.

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Arden Moore: OK, you got me by an inch.

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Arden Moore: OK, you got me by an inch.

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Arden Moore: That didn't matter, did it?

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Shawn Campana: No, it didn't.

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Shawn Campana: As long as you could do it, you could do it, then you pass.

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Arden Moore: All right.

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Arden Moore: So you have a program and I want people to realize it's tough being a firefighter, isn't it?

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Shawn Campana: Yes.

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Arden Moore: And there is issues with mental wellness and PTSD and suicide.

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Arden Moore: Is there some things you can share with people that they may not realize how much those things impact firefighters more so than the general public?

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Shawn Campana: So when you think about firefighter illness and injury, you think about cancer and injuries, falls from buildings and stuff like that.

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Shawn Campana: But until recently, nobody considered mental health.

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Shawn Campana: So when you think about our job, what we do is we go and basically see the worst of humanity every third day of our lives.

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Shawn Campana: And it after a certain amount of time can also start being pervasive into your personal life.

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Shawn Campana: So for instance, there was a run of pediatric drownings that we had one year in North Miami Beach, child after child after child after child.

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Shawn Campana: So when you have children and you go home and your spouse says, hey, we're going to take the kids to the lake.

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Shawn Campana: The first thing you end up saying is, oh, no, we're not.

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Shawn Campana: And it's not easy to see those things happening in the neighborhoods that you work and grew up in.

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Shawn Campana: And, you know, so sometimes it can take its toll if you don't.

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Shawn Campana: I mean, we're very good about taking care of our bodies and our physical health.

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Shawn Campana: But we weren't very good at all taking care of our mental health.

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Shawn Campana: So recently, mental wellness in the fire department and really for responders in general has been a big deal.

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Shawn Campana: And that's what this program has become about.

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Arden Moore: So it is called its Response Canine Teams.

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Arden Moore: Is that correct?

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Shawn Campana: Crisis Response Canine Teams.

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Shawn Campana: Yes.

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Arden Moore: OK, so tell us what that is.

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Arden Moore: And we're going to get to Charlie's backstory in a minute.

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Arden Moore: But Charlie is kind of the captain of the Crisis Response Canine.

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Shawn Campana: It's actually about him more so than me.

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Shawn Campana: Everybody knows his name if they remember mine.

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Arden Moore: That's OK, though, right?

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

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Shawn Campana: So I started the program in 2016.

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Shawn Campana: We started doing our studies at the station with Charlie.

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Shawn Campana: In 2015, I joined the peer support team.

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Shawn Campana: And what the peer support does is it's firefighters trained.

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Arden Moore: OK.

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Shawn Campana: And after tough calls, like a pediatric drowning, like a firefighter suicide, what we do is we have a team, we take the units out of service and we have a team go to the station.

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Shawn Campana: They get a chance to relax and, you know, talk to a group of people if they want to.

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Shawn Campana: And we bring the dogs and it's a chance for them to process what they've just experienced.

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Shawn Campana: We're so used to running call after call after call and not even allowing ourselves to think about what just happened or what we just saw.

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Shawn Campana: And look, we're human beings.

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Shawn Campana: We're not supermen and superwomen.

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Shawn Campana: We know that now.

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Shawn Campana: And by not processing any of this is how we ended up developing PTSD.

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Shawn Campana: Along with PTSD comes suicide ideation.

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Shawn Campana: So our department is very big.

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Shawn Campana: We have about 80 fire stations, but we've had 31 suicides documented between active and retired from when our first documentation until now.

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Arden Moore: Oh, man.

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Arden Moore: And I want to talk to you about this because you yourself thought about it.

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Shawn Campana: Yes.

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Shawn Campana: Yes.

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Shawn Campana: So in 2014, I got my diagnosis of complex PTSD.

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Shawn Campana: And I started going through all the symptoms and not understanding what was going on.

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Shawn Campana: I lost function in every area of my life.

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Shawn Campana: And then eventually, yes, had months long cycles of wanting to kill myself.

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Arden Moore: When you say symptoms, what were you to help others so they can get help?

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Arden Moore: What were you feeling disorientated?

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Shawn Campana: I used to be in the gym every single day since I was 13.

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Shawn Campana: Up until that point, I lost him.

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Arden Moore: I saw you there.

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Arden Moore: No, just kidding.

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Shawn Campana: I lost interest in everything that I used to like.

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Shawn Campana: I started having reactivity as far as anger.

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Shawn Campana: I would faint out in public.

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Shawn Campana: I got anxiety so bad.

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Shawn Campana: That's another reason that I, when I decided that I wasn't going to do that to myself, I had to do something.

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Shawn Campana: I did try therapy for a year, but the therapist said there was nothing they could do for me.

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Shawn Campana: So that's when things got really bad.

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Shawn Campana: I know, I know.

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Shawn Campana: So I had my dogs and I decided, I looked at, oh, I ran a call one day.

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Shawn Campana: It was a domestic violence call.

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Shawn Campana: And as I was writing the report for her, we were waiting for the ambulance to come transport her.

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Shawn Campana: And out of her bedroom walks a dog with a PTSD service dog vest on.

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Shawn Campana: Now I knew I had it at that point, but I didn't know that there were dogs that could help with PTSD.

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Shawn Campana: So I asked the patient, while we were sitting there waiting for the ambulance, how does the dog help you?

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Shawn Campana: How did you get it to become a service dog?

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Shawn Campana: So she told me.

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Shawn Campana: And I went home, looked it up, and I found one of three trainers right here in Fort Lauderdale, Daniel De La Rosa, that could actually train Greyhounds to be service dogs, because it was kind of unheard of back then.

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Arden Moore: Well, yeah, everybody thinks of the Golden Retriever, the Labrador Retriever.

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Arden Moore: But I'm sorry.

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Arden Moore: Let's give it up for the Greyhounds, because I've been watching you on this podcast, and Charlie was listening to you and feeling your emotion and came right to you.

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

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Arden Moore: You can't.

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Arden Moore: That's intuitive.

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Arden Moore: That's a pretty amazing dog.

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Arden Moore: Yeah.

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Arden Moore: So you rescued Charlie.

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Arden Moore: Tell us about that.

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Arden Moore: And Charlie's rescuing you.

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Arden Moore: So let's tell us the backstory to Charlie.

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

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Shawn Campana: So I fell in love with Greyhounds about 15 years ago.

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Arden Moore: What is it about Greyhounds you love?

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Shawn Campana: Well, they're muscular and lean, but they're also very docile and sweet.

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Shawn Campana: They call him the 45 mile an hour couch potato for a reason.

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Shawn Campana: He will sleep 20 out of 24 hours if allowed.

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

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Shawn Campana: So I just I love that breed.

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Shawn Campana: I fell in love and I went and fostered for the rescue.

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Shawn Campana: I had five of my own Greyhounds.

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Shawn Campana: I failed miserably as a foster many times, but I've had I fostered, you know, over 20.

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Shawn Campana: I lost count and my responsibility was to put weight on them.

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Shawn Campana: So they were pretty emaciated when they would come from the track.

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Shawn Campana: And, you know, if they needed medications or to be treated for worms or to heal broken legs and this way they could be adopted healthier with which would increase their odds of being adopted.

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Arden Moore: Yeah.

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Arden Moore: And I used to live in South Florida.

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Arden Moore: I worked at the Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel.

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Arden Moore: I remember in Palm Beach County, they had the Greyhound races.

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Arden Moore: Here comes Rusty.

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Arden Moore: Charlie was one of the Greyhound racers, right?

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Shawn Campana: He sure was.

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

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Shawn Campana: So I had stopped fostering for a little while because there weren't any to foster and my own Greyhound, Zen, he needed a buddy.

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Shawn Campana: So I called Michelle at the friends of Greyhound Rescue and I said, listen, I'm ready for another one.

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Shawn Campana: And I said, I want a black female because the black female, the black dogs for some silly racing, whatever, just wouldn't get adopted as much as all the other dogs.

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Shawn Campana: Like black dogs didn't win as much.

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Shawn Campana: So people honestly wouldn't adopt them as much.

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Shawn Campana: So I told her, I said, I'm bringing home a black female.

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Shawn Campana: And she goes, all right, let me go up to Palm Beach and bring some back.

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Shawn Campana: I'll get you your dog.

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Shawn Campana: So I was finishing up a tattoo at 830 at night.

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Shawn Campana: She called me that she had just gotten back from Palm Beach County that she had my dog.

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Shawn Campana: So I said, great.

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Shawn Campana: I went right over to her house.

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Shawn Campana: She had kennels in her garage and I saw two black greyhounds.

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Shawn Campana: I went right up to both crates.

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Shawn Campana: I opened them both up.

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Shawn Campana: I'm playing with them.

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Shawn Campana: And she goes, that's the one I brought back for you.

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Shawn Campana: And it was a white male.

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Shawn Campana: So I walked right past Charlie, didn't even see him.

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Shawn Campana: And then I said to her, well, what am I going to do now?

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Shawn Campana: Look, this one's already in my lap.

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Shawn Campana: Ah, and she goes, look, just take Charlie home.

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Shawn Campana: If anything, bring him back and have one of these, you know.

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Shawn Campana: So I said, OK, you know, and I put Charlie in the car and I had never gone back with him again since.

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Arden Moore: Oh, my gosh.

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Arden Moore: Hey, everybody.

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Arden Moore: We're speaking with Captain Shawn Campana.

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Arden Moore: She is at the Miami-Dade Fire Department.

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Arden Moore: She helped create the Crisis Response Canine Teams.

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Arden Moore: We're going to find out more after we take this break.

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Arden Moore: You all know the drill.

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Arden Moore: You got to sit, stay.

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Arden Moore: We'll be right back.

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Announcer: Time for a pause.

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Announcer: Four furry ones, actually, sit and stay.

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John O'Hurley: Hi, this is John O'Hurley reminding you you're listening to the Oh Behave Show with Arden Moore on Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Oh Behave is back with more tail wagging ways to achieve Harmony in the household with your pets.

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Announcer: Now, back to your fetching host, America's Pet Edutainer, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: Welcome back to the Oh Behave Show on Pet Life Radio.

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Arden Moore: I'm your host, Arden Moore.

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Arden Moore: I'm with my buddy, Captain Shawn Campana and Charlie.

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Arden Moore: Now, Charlie, I understand was a racer, how many, like 55 races?

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Shawn Campana: 55 races in two years, yep.

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Arden Moore: And something happened to Charlie.

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Arden Moore: What happened to Charlie?

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Shawn Campana: Yeah, so he was a fast boy and like many of the fast dogs, they would crash into each other.

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Shawn Campana: So his last race, he crashed into another racing dog.

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Shawn Campana: He broke his leg, slit his neck, and that was pretty much the end of his racing career.

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Arden Moore: Charlie broke his leg?

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Shawn Campana: Yes, he has a metal rod in his back leg.

00:13:26.980 --> 00:13:27.780
Arden Moore: Oh my gosh.

00:13:27.980 --> 00:13:31.300
Shawn Campana: It's pretty common in injury when you work at the rescue.

00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:32.100
Shawn Campana: Most of them do.

00:13:32.100 --> 00:13:34.860
Shawn Campana: My other Greyhound has a rod in his back leg too.

00:13:35.380 --> 00:13:39.300
Shawn Campana: So yeah, so that retired him from racing and Charlie was one of the lucky ones.

00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:47.280
Shawn Campana: He did get to go to one of the rescues and they put him back together and a year later was when Michelle went to get him and he became mine all mine.

00:13:47.540 --> 00:13:50.500
Arden Moore: What makes him a good service dog?

00:13:50.620 --> 00:13:52.660
Arden Moore: What makes Charlie a good service dog?

00:13:52.980 --> 00:13:55.060
Shawn Campana: First of all, he has the qualities of a Greyhound.

00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:56.600
Shawn Campana: He's very docile.

00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:01.100
Shawn Campana: He doesn't bark, very calm, laid back, but he is an empath.

00:14:01.400 --> 00:14:02.080
Arden Moore: Explain that.

00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:07.940
Shawn Campana: So he just seems to know when when I'm not okay.

00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.320
Shawn Campana: And he also has learned to smell my anxiety.

00:14:12.340 --> 00:14:16.840
Shawn Campana: So when we produce or change emotions, we humans produce pheromones, right?

00:14:16.860 --> 00:14:18.520
Shawn Campana: And they can smell those pheromones.

00:14:18.540 --> 00:14:27.440
Shawn Campana: And since they can smell in degrees, since I would have anxiety attacks so bad, I would automatically faint without doing the struggle to breathe first.

00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:29.500
Shawn Campana: And he would know.

00:14:29.780 --> 00:14:36.440
Shawn Campana: And what he would do is he would come stick his muzzle in my belly and prevent the anxiety attack from happening.

00:14:36.520 --> 00:14:39.180
Shawn Campana: If I was standing up, he would do the same thing.

00:14:39.380 --> 00:14:40.360
Shawn Campana: He's a big boy.

00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:44.800
Shawn Campana: So unlike other service dogs, it's hard for him to jump in my lap without knocking me over.

00:14:45.160 --> 00:14:50.460
Shawn Campana: So we train him to come face in to me and put his muzzle right into my belly.

00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:54.620
Shawn Campana: There's a pressure point there, which they say stimulates the feeling of being in the womb.

00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.520
Arden Moore: Now we have to give them a big O for oxytocin.

00:14:58.700 --> 00:14:59.480
Arden Moore: What does that mean?

00:14:59.560 --> 00:15:04.880
Arden Moore: And tell us how service dogs like Charlie are unleashing oxytocin.

00:15:05.180 --> 00:15:24.560
Shawn Campana: Yeah, so when they do one of two things, a gaze, which is a really intense look into the person's eyes, or when we do something called friendly petting, you know, getting our fingertips into their skin, our bodies naturally release oxytocin, which in turn favorably modulates all our stress hormones, other chemicals as well.

00:15:24.920 --> 00:15:28.660
Shawn Campana: Dopamine is released and oxytocin and it's mutual.

00:15:28.860 --> 00:15:32.020
Shawn Campana: So they have the same change in their body also.

00:15:33.340 --> 00:15:34.920
Shawn Campana: So the effect works both ways.

00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:44.720
Arden Moore: Now I've been told, I'm no scientist, but I always called dopamine the happy hormone and I call oxytocin the cuddle hormone.

00:15:44.740 --> 00:15:45.440
Arden Moore: Would you agree?

00:15:45.740 --> 00:15:46.460
Shawn Campana: Absolutely.

00:15:47.340 --> 00:15:49.360
Shawn Campana: And dogs do attach like children.

00:15:50.100 --> 00:15:57.260
Shawn Campana: We know that now and oxytocin is the hormone that, you know, the mom secretes with her baby for attachment.

00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:01.460
Arden Moore: So you and I have something else in common besides having a love of dogs.

00:16:01.760 --> 00:16:11.780
Arden Moore: You had to put up with me for two days, 16 hours in August to become a certified ProPet Hero instructor.

00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.300
Arden Moore: I'm a master instructor in Pet First Aid and you were one of my students.

00:16:16.420 --> 00:16:18.820
Arden Moore: So you're expanding your platform, right?

00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:19.460
Shawn Campana: Yes.

00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:21.120
Arden Moore: What you hope to do?

00:16:21.280 --> 00:16:24.700
Shawn Campana: That class is required for every handler on my team.

00:16:24.980 --> 00:16:25.540
Arden Moore: Oh, good.

00:16:25.780 --> 00:16:26.180
Arden Moore: Good.

00:16:26.500 --> 00:16:29.180
Arden Moore: So tell us about putting up with me for two days.

00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.760
Shawn Campana: Your sense of humor made it a pleasure.

00:16:34.020 --> 00:16:36.400
Shawn Campana: It was not boring in any way, shape or form.

00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:43.380
Shawn Campana: I actually used some of your things in the class when I taught it, you know, about the toilet paper fire station life.

00:16:43.400 --> 00:16:46.600
Shawn Campana: They actually do complain which way the toilet paper space can be good or not.

00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:48.180
Arden Moore: That's the wrap-a-wound.

00:16:49.160 --> 00:16:49.600
Shawn Campana: Yes.

00:16:49.740 --> 00:16:53.640
Shawn Campana: And the surveys that they did after class were amazing.

00:16:54.020 --> 00:16:56.540
Shawn Campana: It was their favorite class that I teach them.

00:16:56.800 --> 00:16:59.140
Shawn Campana: And it's my favorite class now to teach.

00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.660
Shawn Campana: What a pleasure and how fun and everybody loved it.

00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.960
Arden Moore: And you got to meet pet safety dog Kona and pet safety cat Casey.

00:17:07.280 --> 00:17:09.020
Arden Moore: Okay, they're therapy pets.

00:17:09.040 --> 00:17:12.620
Arden Moore: They're not in the level of the stratosphere of Charlie.

00:17:12.980 --> 00:17:14.300
Arden Moore: But what about Kona?

00:17:14.320 --> 00:17:16.660
Arden Moore: I think Kona and Charlie are very intuitive.

00:17:16.680 --> 00:17:17.380
Arden Moore: Do you agree?

00:17:17.760 --> 00:17:18.520
Shawn Campana: Absolutely.

00:17:18.800 --> 00:17:19.520
Shawn Campana: Absolutely.

00:17:19.940 --> 00:17:20.300
Arden Moore: Yeah.

00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.100
Arden Moore: So being a fire captain, you're a badass, aren't you?

00:17:25.660 --> 00:17:26.600
Arden Moore: In a good way.

00:17:26.740 --> 00:17:35.120
Shawn Campana: I know there was a time that I was, you know, I'm definitely off the truck now to run the program, to build it, which is an honor and a blessing.

00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:42.800
Shawn Campana: So I'm slowing down a little bit, but that's okay, because I really love nobody else on the fire department gets to do what I do.

00:17:42.820 --> 00:17:46.000
Shawn Campana: So I actually have the best job on the fire department.

00:17:46.020 --> 00:17:49.180
Arden Moore: So tell us, like, what's going to happen in the next day or two?

00:17:49.200 --> 00:17:50.200
Arden Moore: The holidays are coming.

00:17:50.220 --> 00:17:53.200
Arden Moore: What's something that you and Charlie are going to be doing?

00:17:53.600 --> 00:17:56.740
Shawn Campana: Well, there are events that we're being invited to.

00:17:56.760 --> 00:18:01.040
Shawn Campana: But I do have a concern with the recent canine illness.

00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:03.540
Shawn Campana: It's going around.

00:18:03.560 --> 00:18:04.540
Arden Moore: Mysterious illness.

00:18:04.560 --> 00:18:04.900
Arden Moore: Yes.

00:18:05.540 --> 00:18:13.360
Shawn Campana: So we're kind of taking precautions and I don't want to bring him somewhere to group him up with other dogs that that might be an issue.

00:18:14.520 --> 00:18:17.080
Shawn Campana: They are they are still working on the fire department.

00:18:17.100 --> 00:18:22.440
Shawn Campana: And if we do, God forbid, have a tragedy in the state of Florida, that's another team that he helped start.

00:18:22.700 --> 00:18:24.520
Shawn Campana: Then he will be responding there as well.

00:18:25.420 --> 00:18:28.000
Arden Moore: I have lived in Florida for nine years.

00:18:28.020 --> 00:18:30.420
Arden Moore: I went through Hurricane Andrew and some other things.

00:18:31.080 --> 00:18:35.160
Arden Moore: Mother Nature can be pretty wicked, but so can other things.

00:18:35.180 --> 00:18:44.500
Arden Moore: So I wanted you to give a little bit of insight about Charlie's role with things like the Surfside condo collapse in Miami.

00:18:44.520 --> 00:18:45.240
Arden Moore: That was horrible.

00:18:45.260 --> 00:18:51.560
Arden Moore: You had the Parkland High School shootings on, of course, Valentine's Day and Hurricane Ian.

00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:53.740
Arden Moore: So he's been had a role in all of those.

00:18:54.120 --> 00:18:54.620
Shawn Campana: Yes.

00:18:54.940 --> 00:18:56.360
Arden Moore: Let's take them one at a time.

00:18:56.520 --> 00:18:57.840
Arden Moore: All right.

00:18:58.220 --> 00:19:03.680
Shawn Campana: So we were still in the fire station doing what we officially activated Charlie in 2017.

00:19:03.700 --> 00:19:09.580
Shawn Campana: That's when he became an official member of our peer support team and started going out on department responses.

00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:11.480
Shawn Campana: We call that a local response.

00:19:12.040 --> 00:19:19.020
Shawn Campana: Parkland was our first official deployment where we came to go help other firefighters.

00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:25.760
Shawn Campana: So if you think about it, Arden, there's always plenty of therapy dogs on scenes of tragedies, right?

00:19:26.040 --> 00:19:28.620
Shawn Campana: But no one ever thought about bringing them for the responders.

00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:33.400
Shawn Campana: And also, you know, the civilians don't have access to our stations.

00:19:33.520 --> 00:19:34.840
Shawn Campana: We do peer support.

00:19:34.860 --> 00:19:38.660
Shawn Campana: So you have to be a firefighter to go help another firefighter or police officer.

00:19:39.100 --> 00:19:44.420
Shawn Campana: So I was the only one standing in the peer support group for the responders with a dog.

00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:49.900
Shawn Campana: So to be on a team like this, you have the handler has to have peer support training.

00:19:50.340 --> 00:19:53.580
Shawn Campana: You have to have your your canine CPR and first aid.

00:19:53.600 --> 00:19:56.180
Shawn Campana: You have to take at least a two hour self care class.

00:19:56.340 --> 00:20:06.100
Shawn Campana: The dog has to be nationally registered, certified therapy dog, and then go on to the crisis response training that that we've developed in the state for response agencies.

00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:12.280
Arden Moore: So without naming an individual, what did Charlie do to one of the firefighters at Parkland?

00:20:12.860 --> 00:20:16.140
Shawn Campana: It was interesting and you can really start to see the benefits.

00:20:16.140 --> 00:20:17.580
Shawn Campana: You know, some of them were hurting.

00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:20.300
Shawn Campana: He'll always gravitate towards them.

00:20:20.860 --> 00:20:24.660
Shawn Campana: Somebody wasn't really interested in talking, then started crying.

00:20:24.840 --> 00:20:27.940
Shawn Campana: So that was the first time I had ever seen Charlie do a gaze.

00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.400
Arden Moore: When he does a gaze, can you expand on that?

00:20:30.420 --> 00:20:30.920
Arden Moore: What do you mean?

00:20:31.120 --> 00:20:36.460
Shawn Campana: So he kind of puts his head down and stares directly right into somebody's eyes.

00:20:36.940 --> 00:20:39.440
Shawn Campana: OK, you know what he's doing at that point.

00:20:39.460 --> 00:20:42.560
Shawn Campana: So I give him a little coaching note, stare right back into his eyes.

00:20:42.700 --> 00:20:45.140
Shawn Campana: You know, get your hands on both sides of his head.

00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.620
Shawn Campana: Go ahead and start petting and they could feel the relief right away.

00:20:50.760 --> 00:20:54.460
Shawn Campana: So there was another guy and he wasn't really talking.

00:20:54.540 --> 00:21:00.340
Shawn Campana: Charlie reached his paw up to the guy and he put his arm out back towards Charlie.

00:21:00.360 --> 00:21:04.720
Shawn Campana: And next thing you know, he started talking to Charlie, but he was he was talking.

00:21:05.360 --> 00:21:08.520
Shawn Campana: There's all kinds of stories and things I could share.

00:21:09.060 --> 00:21:14.080
Arden Moore: Surfside, the condominiums, you know, that had been there for so long.

00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:19.560
Arden Moore: It was it was something that everybody knew those condos in Miami and it collapsed.

00:21:19.860 --> 00:21:21.540
Arden Moore: So what was Charlie's role there?

00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:27.900
Shawn Campana: So I got the call at four in the morning from the alarm office that they needed the peer support canines for a building collapse.

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:33.240
Shawn Campana: And so just so you know, normally peer support is after a call, right?

00:21:33.320 --> 00:21:33.660
Arden Moore: Yeah.

00:21:33.800 --> 00:21:35.800
Shawn Campana: Why would they need us at a building collapse?

00:21:36.060 --> 00:21:39.400
Shawn Campana: So this is called an extended incident, a very large incident.

00:21:39.420 --> 00:21:41.780
Shawn Campana: That's good that we're going to be there a long time working.

00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:47.200
Shawn Campana: So I turned on the news and sure enough, there were the fire engines on Collins Avenue.

00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:53.280
Shawn Campana: So I grabbed his go pack, grabbed a cup of coffee, a couple of uniforms for myself and headed down to Surfside.

00:21:53.540 --> 00:21:56.800
Shawn Campana: The peers, the human peers were assigned 12 hour shifts.

00:21:56.840 --> 00:22:08.060
Shawn Campana: And what they did is as the crews came off the pile, anybody needed to talk, take a break, get them some food, you know, peer support and give them a chance to talk about what they just saw.

00:22:08.100 --> 00:22:10.560
Arden Moore: I'm not going to talk about what I'm not asking you.

00:22:10.900 --> 00:22:14.800
Shawn Campana: OK, another role that we had was in the Family Reunification Center.

00:22:15.320 --> 00:22:17.800
Shawn Campana: OK, so it started off two dogs.

00:22:17.900 --> 00:22:20.140
Shawn Campana: OK, six hour shifts and six hour shifts.

00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.420
Shawn Campana: And we had intense heat.

00:22:21.780 --> 00:22:23.220
Shawn Campana: This is an emergency scene.

00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:25.620
Shawn Campana: That's crisis response versus therapy dog.

00:22:25.640 --> 00:22:29.400
Shawn Campana: So we had rebar all over the place, glass crushed cement.

00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.660
Shawn Campana: A tower was looking like it was going to come down on top of us.

00:22:32.860 --> 00:22:37.640
Shawn Campana: So we had to have dogs in the Family Reunification Center and at the pile.

00:22:37.700 --> 00:22:47.900
Shawn Campana: And eventually the requests from the responders, the homicide tent, the medical examiner's tent and our own USAR teams, we couldn't keep up with the response.

00:22:48.040 --> 00:22:57.840
Shawn Campana: So I had to get another crisis response, canine agency to handle the family center while we put all our efforts into the responders on the pile.

00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:06.200
Shawn Campana: And the unification center, a lot of people think that that would have been easier than working with the responders, but it wasn't.

00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:09.500
Shawn Campana: We would literally get 20 feet inside the door of the family.

00:23:09.520 --> 00:23:11.420
Shawn Campana: You know, they were waiting to hear about their loved ones.

00:23:11.900 --> 00:23:14.920
Shawn Campana: They would pull us to the side, hey, hey, you know, we need you.

00:23:15.360 --> 00:23:17.300
Shawn Campana: Some of the crews got taken upstairs.

00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.560
Shawn Campana: I found out right there people were being given death notices.

00:23:21.780 --> 00:23:26.600
Shawn Campana: For me and Charlie, we were pulled to a man who was visibly upset.

00:23:26.840 --> 00:23:35.140
Shawn Campana: This man grabbed Charlie on both sides of his neck and said, Charlie, Charlie, go tell those other dogs to find my wife and collapsed right on top of Charlie.

00:23:35.600 --> 00:23:37.520
Shawn Campana: So Charlie doesn't get scared and run away.

00:23:37.900 --> 00:23:43.660
Shawn Campana: And he knew to keep contact, physical contact for the oxytocin exchange, right, with the man.

00:23:44.320 --> 00:23:48.800
Shawn Campana: So yeah, it's we didn't realize, I don't think anybody realized.

00:23:49.120 --> 00:23:51.540
Shawn Campana: At first, it was like they didn't want us there.

00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:53.840
Shawn Campana: And then we couldn't keep up with enough teams.

00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.760
Shawn Campana: So we had 10 teams, 10 K9 teams at the time.

00:23:58.180 --> 00:23:59.240
Shawn Campana: And that's what we did.

00:23:59.280 --> 00:24:01.540
Shawn Campana: We kept rotating crews every time.

00:24:01.560 --> 00:24:04.520
Shawn Campana: You know, in the news sensationalized some of the victims.

00:24:04.540 --> 00:24:07.480
Shawn Campana: I remember my chief telling me, come on, we need another team out there.

00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:08.960
Shawn Campana: They found the 14 year old.

00:24:09.060 --> 00:24:12.080
Shawn Campana: So when they would come off the pile, we'd be there.

00:24:12.600 --> 00:24:18.220
Shawn Campana: And what we didn't expect is, you know, here's all the USAR guys covered in everything that they just dug through.

00:24:18.580 --> 00:24:22.640
Shawn Campana: They would just take a knee, look up like a zombie and say, can I pet your dog?

00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.560
Shawn Campana: Yeah, man, that's what they're here for.

00:24:24.800 --> 00:24:28.640
Shawn Campana: When they would get breaks, we'd bring the dogs over to them, goof around.

00:24:28.860 --> 00:24:31.680
Shawn Campana: And the cool thing is, is we started getting responses.

00:24:31.700 --> 00:24:33.680
Shawn Campana: Now that was a three week long scene.

00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:36.920
Shawn Campana: So after a while, there just wasn't anything to say.

00:24:36.940 --> 00:24:41.380
Shawn Campana: We hug each other, we cry together, but we weren't saying anything at that point.

00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.980
Shawn Campana: Well, that's really when the dog started to shine.

00:24:44.760 --> 00:24:46.660
Shawn Campana: So we would start getting requests.

00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:48.160
Shawn Campana: Hey, can I take your dog for a walk?

00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:51.240
Shawn Campana: Or hey, can I spend time with your dog without you?

00:24:52.380 --> 00:25:04.340
Shawn Campana: Which we normally don't do for the public, but we, you know, we give them the treat bag, let them be with the dog, tell them some precautions, walk away, and just keep an eye on them from a distance and just let them enjoy the dog.

00:25:04.360 --> 00:25:10.260
Shawn Campana: Because whether they knew the science or not, whether they talk or not, they still got the benefits from the dog.

00:25:11.540 --> 00:25:15.380
Arden Moore: And, you know, I think you and I, we should come back as service dogs.

00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:19.740
Arden Moore: That wouldn't be a bad gig, would it?

00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.240
Shawn Campana: No, no, absolutely not.

00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:24.020
Shawn Campana: I want to come back as your service dog.

00:25:24.420 --> 00:25:25.600
Arden Moore: Oh, thank you.

00:25:25.620 --> 00:25:26.600
Arden Moore: I want to come back as yours.

00:25:27.900 --> 00:25:36.600
Arden Moore: So moving forward, is this going to be more of a trend that we're going to see in fire departments, police departments around the country?

00:25:36.660 --> 00:25:43.920
Arden Moore: I do know we've had police officers on that have a new kind of canine cop, if you will, that is emotional support.

00:25:44.260 --> 00:25:46.540
Arden Moore: But I'm seeing kind of a trend.

00:25:46.540 --> 00:25:47.640
Arden Moore: You're kind of starting this.

00:25:47.660 --> 00:25:53.140
Arden Moore: What's happening across the country in this regard, this peer support with service dogs?

00:25:53.460 --> 00:25:55.020
Shawn Campana: It is becoming a trend.

00:25:55.100 --> 00:25:57.220
Shawn Campana: Like I said, I also work for the state.

00:25:57.260 --> 00:26:01.260
Shawn Campana: After Surfside, they wanted me to help build a program for the state.

00:26:01.280 --> 00:26:08.900
Shawn Campana: So I work for the Firefighters Safety and Health Collaborative, and I'm the canine coordinator there like I am for the department with similar responsibilities.

00:26:08.900 --> 00:26:12.480
Shawn Campana: So I manage all the state responses to Hurricane Ian.

00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:27.180
Shawn Campana: We had about eight dogs that responded to Hurricane Ian for those responders as well, because in that area, in very different scenes, Surfside was relatively small, but very difficult to manage with all the people around.

00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:40.900
Shawn Campana: Hurricane Ian was very spread out, so we had to send teams all over the place, and we were going to firefighters whose home was wiped out from that hurricane, who were still at work, who hadn't even checked on their home yet.

00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:43.640
Shawn Campana: Yeah, so stuff like that.

00:26:43.660 --> 00:26:48.140
Shawn Campana: We've gotten calls from other states, including California.

00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:52.880
Shawn Campana: I just spoke to somebody in Iowa, a police officer not too long ago.

00:26:53.280 --> 00:27:01.500
Shawn Campana: So I believe that in local departments, you're going to see like a therapy dog roll, or maybe for crisis response, using them in peer support.

00:27:01.520 --> 00:27:03.740
Shawn Campana: Police is joining in on that now.

00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:10.900
Shawn Campana: Metro-Dade, Miami-Dade PD, City of Miami PD, Miami Gardens PD are all starting their programs.

00:27:11.300 --> 00:27:13.800
Shawn Campana: And, you know, we kind of work together and train together.

00:27:14.300 --> 00:27:16.960
Shawn Campana: And I think it's happening all throughout the country.

00:27:17.100 --> 00:27:28.200
Shawn Campana: Also, the International Association of Firefighters, which is our nationwide union, has had us fly to other states with our dogs when they had a tragedy or an issue to go help them.

00:27:28.260 --> 00:27:34.180
Shawn Campana: So our dogs have been to Texas, El Paso, South Carolina, Buffalo, New York.

00:27:34.320 --> 00:27:34.820
Shawn Campana: So, yeah.

00:27:34.840 --> 00:27:36.020
Arden Moore: Do they ride first class?

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Shawn Campana: Well, he has to sit in the bulkhead.

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

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Shawn Campana: So I have to get a bulkhead seat for him.

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Shawn Campana: A lot of the other ones can sit under the seats in front of him.

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Arden Moore: Is he taller than you when he stands up?

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Shawn Campana: Yeah.

00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:49.780
Shawn Campana: All my dogs are.

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Arden Moore: Do you ever feel like Charlie finishes your sentences?

00:27:55.860 --> 00:27:56.840
Shawn Campana: Oh, all the time.

00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.260
Shawn Campana: He reads my mind.

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Arden Moore: Give me an example.

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Shawn Campana: I get up off the couch.

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.920
Shawn Campana: Now, I know I'm going to go ahead and go lay down and take a nap.

00:28:05.060 --> 00:28:08.360
Shawn Campana: Before I could get to the bedroom, he's already jumping in the bed.

00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.180
Arden Moore: Charlie, what are the winning lotto ticket numbers?

00:28:13.820 --> 00:28:14.560
Shawn Campana: Oh, Mommy first.

00:28:15.780 --> 00:28:16.200
Arden Moore: Oh, yeah.

00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:17.640
Arden Moore: Oh, Mommy first.

00:28:18.360 --> 00:28:20.700
Arden Moore: What's a parting message you would like to give?

00:28:20.740 --> 00:28:25.660
Arden Moore: We're talking with Captain Shawn Campana and her amazing service dog, Charlie.

00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:27.880
Arden Moore: What's something you'd like to message you'd like to give?

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Shawn Campana: I think that we have a lot more dog owners out there.

00:28:32.540 --> 00:28:44.900
Shawn Campana: Learn more about dogs, about dog behavior, maybe even communicating better with your dog, so you know what they're trying to tell you because they do communicate with us all the time.

00:28:45.580 --> 00:28:50.840
Shawn Campana: Take good care of them and you will get everything back 200-fold.

00:28:51.040 --> 00:28:52.740
Shawn Campana: These are special animals.

00:28:52.980 --> 00:28:55.920
Shawn Campana: I think that these are angels wrapped in fur.

00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:57.660
Shawn Campana: And this dog saved my life.

00:28:57.940 --> 00:28:59.860
Shawn Campana: They do have that big of an impact.

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Shawn Campana: And if you treat them well and they deserve it, they'll give you everything.

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Arden Moore: Well put.

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Arden Moore: Everyone, please, I'm so honored.

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Arden Moore: I really am, Shawn, to have you on my show, YouTube Charlie.

00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:19.380
Arden Moore: We're speaking with Captain Shawn Campana and service dog Charlie, who's got the sweetest disposition I've ever met.

00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.020
Arden Moore: I thought my dog Kona is pretty intuitive.

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Arden Moore: I think the two of them could have a lot to talk about, right?

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Shawn Campana: They'd be buds, yeah.

00:29:26.280 --> 00:29:27.320
Arden Moore: They'd be buds, yeah.

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