Kathy M. Finley - My One-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist
Joining me for this episode is animal advocate and award-winning author Kathy M. Finley. Kathy and I chat about her latest book, My one-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist. A wonderfully crafted memoir about a remarkable cat named Clio and how she helped the author heal and learn through all stages of their life together. Kathy and I also get to chat about her writing style and how she crafts her work as an author, writer and blogger. Have a listen and learn about these heartfelt and funny collection of stories. Enjoy!
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BIO:
Kathy M. Finley is a lifelong animal lover who has a special affinity for cats. Finley often thought she would become a veterinarian but couldn’t face the possibility of being unable to save an animal’s life, so she pursued a career that allowed her to use her skills of storytelling and writing. A successful career in the nonprofit sector allowed her to become an advocate for animals by donating to many pet charities and animal welfare organizations and writing about how animals (and particularly cats) have helped her put her own life in perspective and face life’s everyday challenges.
During her professional life, she worked and ran several nonprofit organizations including museums and associations and published extensively in the field of association management. In 2018, she was awarded the Albert Nelson Marquis Lifetime Achievement Award. She holds a PhD in organizational development, a master’s degree in history and museum studies, an MBA with a major in marketing, and a bachelor’s degree.
The author has her own blog entitled “Cat Scratches and Scribbles” on her website (KathyFinley.com) where she posts monthly blogs on subjects such as the animal/human bond, the health and mental health benefits of pets, and stories of pets who “rescued” their pet parents.
She is an award-winning member of the Cat Writers Association and is a member of their board of directors. Her recent book, published in October 2023 by Purdue University Press in their Human-Animal Bond Series recently won three awards from the Speak Up Talk Radio International Firebird Book Awards (first place for animal/pet book, first place for inspirational book, and third place for memoir) and Finalist in the Feathered Quill Book Award contest.
Finley also volunteers extensively in her community through her service club, Altrusa International of Indianapolis, and has been a Toastmaster since 1994, achieving the highest Toastmaster Award (Distinguished Toastmaster) twice and has won many speech contests (including at the District level. Her hobbies include walking, gardening, scrapbooking, and antiquing (especially collecting vintage cat collectibles). She and her husband, Jeff, live with their two cats (Jackson and Trixie) in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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Tim Link: Welcome to Animal Writes on Pet Life Radio. This is your host, Tim Link, and I'm so glad you're joining us today.
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Tim Link: I've got a super-duper exciting show.
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Tim Link: We've got animal advocate and award-winning author Kathy M.
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Tim Link: Finley, and Kathy's going to come on the show to talk a little bit about her latest book, My One-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist.
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Tim Link: My cat, Cleo, saved me.
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Tim Link: So, I'm really excited about learning about the book and how Cleo did the magic, and also how Kathy went about writing the book.
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Tim Link: I'm going to pick a brain a little bit about writing, writing styles, and all that good, fun stuff.
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Tim Link: So, it's going to be a fun show, always animal-related, so we're excited about that.
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Tim Link: Welcome back to Animal Writes on PetLifeRadio.
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Tim Link: Joining us now is author and animal advocate.
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Tim Link: She's an award-winning author and her latest book is My One-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist, How My Cat Cleo Saved Me.
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Tim Link: Of course, we're talking about author Kathy M.
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Tim Link: Finley.
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Tim Link: Kathy, welcome to the show.
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Kathy Finley: Thank you.
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Kathy Finley: I'm glad to be here.
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Tim Link: Yeah, super excited.
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Tim Link: I was excited about the book.
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Tim Link: Love the cover design.
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Tim Link: Is that your magic or someone else's?
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Kathy Finley: Well, actually, it's clip art, believe it or not, that Purdue University has access to.
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Kathy Finley: They basically had me look through pictures of clip art.
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Kathy Finley: I had originally just wanted a picture of Cleo on the cover.
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Kathy Finley: I came across that and thought it applied and then they painted their magic by taking out the cat's eye and the left leg of the cat.
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Kathy Finley: So it's like Cleo.
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Kathy Finley: I mean, Cleo, even with one eye and three legs, she was a beautiful cat.
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Kathy Finley: There was a black and white picture of her and she was a gorgeous cat.
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Kathy Finley: But I think this cat is more attention and really, she was absolutely obsessed with tuna.
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Kathy Finley: I mean, one of the chapters in my book is tuna in the morning, tuna in the evening, tuna at supper time.
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Kathy Finley: That was her.
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Kathy Finley: I mean, she would kill for tuna.
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Kathy Finley: I thought that was funny because the woman has fish in her hair.
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Tim Link: Exactly.
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Tim Link: Yeah, to describe, we get a woman, it's very colorful, all the different colors of the rainbow, so it catches your eyes right away.
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Tim Link: She's got on her head, as part of her head, I'm thinking she's thinking about it, just like Cleo's always thinking about tuna fish.
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Tim Link: There's fish swimming above her head.
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Tim Link: Then we got Cleo, who's a technicolor and multicolors, every color of the rainbow as well, with the one-eyed and the three legs.
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Tim Link: So it was a really cool cover.
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Tim Link: As you know, as an author, it's very important.
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Tim Link: People when it's sitting on the shelf, they see the binding and they pull it off the shelf and they see the cover.
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Tim Link: If it catches their eye, then they're going to open it up and read through the pages and see what the book is all about.
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Tim Link: I think it's always important to have a really good, fun, exciting cover that catches somebody's eye.
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Tim Link: So that being said, tell us a little bit about the book, My One-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist, and tell us a little bit about Cleo as well.
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Kathy Finley: Well, the book is, I guess, technically a memoir, as I say in the thing, but it's really, I was trying to make it more of biography of Cleo and really a story of the relationship between myself and Cleo.
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Kathy Finley: So the book ties my life together and the challenges that I faced, and then when Cleo came into my life, at a very low point in my life, I was going through a bitter divorce after a very abusive marriage, and she came into my life.
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Kathy Finley: I pretty much had destroyed all my self-esteem, and I felt that as abusers do, they isolate you from your family, from your friends.
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Kathy Finley: I didn't feel like I had a friend in the world.
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Kathy Finley: I had always been close to my mother, but I mean, we were still close, but we grow distance because of the marriage.
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Kathy Finley: Essentially, I felt she came into my life at the right moment, and her self-esteem was off the charts.
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Kathy Finley: Her antics were, if you've read any of them in the book, they had all kinds of antics that kept me laughing.
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Kathy Finley: I had a stressful job.
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Kathy Finley: I needed that, and basically, through her trials and tribulations, and she was the runt of the litter, and she had a heart murmur when I got her, but then she developed two forms of cancer after I had her, not related.
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Kathy Finley: Of course, that resulted in the loss of one eye, of having three legs and an amputator.
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Kathy Finley: It saved her life.
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Kathy Finley: We lived a relatively long life.
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Kathy Finley: I think just through watching her, I regained my self-esteem.
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Kathy Finley: She picked out a new husband for me, and she basically just made me realize that, it doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter what life throws at you, it doesn't matter if you have disabilities, if you face a health scare.
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Kathy Finley: She just faced it head on.
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Kathy Finley: She was going to live her life at full tilt, and she did exactly that.
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Kathy Finley: That just taught me so many lessons.
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Kathy Finley: I just loved her so much, and I always loved animals, but she was really different and just made such a difference in my life.
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Kathy Finley: So the story of how her life and my life and how they interacted and how she helped me, I hope I helped her a little bit.
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Kathy Finley: I saved her life a couple of times, but it was just the relationship and the bond we developed in life.
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Tim Link: Absolutely.
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Tim Link: Well, I love the fact that, and I'll ask you in a moment about when did you realize all this?
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Tim Link: Because on face service, when you look at like a broad stroke of the story, here you are having a challenging life, going through a lot of challenges as you mentioned, and all of a sudden you get this cat and then more challenges come along, but it's through the cat.
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Tim Link: Some people would say, well, wait a minute, hold on, what's going on?
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Tim Link: How in the world did this cat save her when the cat presented so many physical challenges?
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Kathy Finley: Physical and fiscal.
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Tim Link: Exactly.
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Tim Link: Fiscal challenges too.
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Kathy Finley: She was a birthday present to me, but turned out to be a very expensive birthday present.
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Kathy Finley: But when did I realize that she had helped me?
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Kathy Finley: I think all along, I mean, when she first had the eye cancer and I worried, well, when she had the heart armor, I was worried that anything that happened to her, and if we had to have surgery, she would die and I was afraid of losing her.
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Kathy Finley: So I think I was aware all along when she had cancer, the eye cancer.
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Kathy Finley: I was so worried about losing her, and I think I knew that I needed her, even though she needed me to help her along there.
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Kathy Finley: I think I knew that.
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Kathy Finley: But I think, I'm not sure I really realized.
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Kathy Finley: I think I just started facing challenges and taking a different attitude toward life, and I think having more self-esteem all along.
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Kathy Finley: I don't think I realized totally it was her until she passed away, which is exactly when I decided to write about her and I decided, I actually just was so distraught that she died, that I just decided that I would just sit down and to remember her, I would write down my memories of her and things she did because she did so many different things.
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Kathy Finley: So it was just going to be kind of a fun way of remembering her and I thought, well, I had taken so many pictures of her that I would put a nice scrapbook together and it will be for me.
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Kathy Finley: And I think when I started that, I realized, wait a minute, look at all she's done for me.
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Kathy Finley: The Kathy now was not the Kathy 16 years ago or 16 years before I got her.
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Kathy Finley: And I was just thinking, I just really have become a different person.
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Kathy Finley: I mean, not a nasty person, but I think I faced the challenges better.
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Kathy Finley: I was able to build my self-esteem and my confidence up, and essentially I realized how much she had done for me.
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Kathy Finley: And I also realized there were other animals earlier in my life that had done that too, but I don't think it stuck as much as it did with Leo.
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Tim Link: Yeah, I think there's time, you know, we get so caught up in this thing called life that, you know, taking care of everything and make sure everything's done, it does take us a while to sit back and think about why they are here.
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Tim Link: Why are they part of our lives and what did they bring to us?
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Tim Link: We know the joy and the love while they're here, but is there a bigger picture?
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Tim Link: Is there a bigger thing that they're accomplishing, a bigger purpose for being here?
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Tim Link: And so that's why I asked the question, because sometimes you can detect these things early on, but oftentimes it's after they make their transition, you've had some time to heal and reflect and realize, wow, you know, this little cat with so many physical and physical challenges.
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Tim Link: As you put it, actually was part of your healing process, was your teacher, basically formed you into someone else.
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Tim Link: And I'm sure led you down the path that that you've always wanted to go.
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Tim Link: And so when Cleo came into your life, walk us through that story a little bit.
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Tim Link: Was this one of those that you were desperate to have another cat, or was it a happenstance that show up at the doorstep?
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Tim Link: Was this, I know it was a major shift going on in your life.
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Tim Link: So what brought Cleo to your, let's say, door?
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Kathy Finley: Well, I actually, I had, I was now, I traveled for, I ran a national association, and I had just gotten back from a conference and a board meeting.
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Kathy Finley: And I had just taken this job the year, year before, and it involved a lot of travel and it involved a lot of work.
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Kathy Finley: I was picking over this organization that had been defrauded, and they distrusted everyone.
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Kathy Finley: So they were a fun group to work for, but I was under a lot of stress with that.
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Kathy Finley: I came back from Las Vegas and didn't lose any of my money.
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Kathy Finley: I was tired as all get out.
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Kathy Finley: They had had a birthday party for me out there.
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Kathy Finley: I came back and I decided somewhere on the trip back that I really wanted somebody to come home to.
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Kathy Finley: I hadn't been able to have a cat because my ex-husband said he was allergic to cats.
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Kathy Finley: I don't believe people have allergies, but because he married another woman with animals and cats, it was just because he knew cats meant so much to me.
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Kathy Finley: I came back and I was like, I'm going to get a cat.
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Kathy Finley: So I came into work and of course, when I got into work, they decorated my office and everything, my employees.
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Kathy Finley: And I thought, okay, well, that's it.
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Kathy Finley: And then they wanted to know if I was ready for cake and a party.
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Kathy Finley: And I said, oh, sure.
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Kathy Finley: And then they brought in this little carrier with PLEO.
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Kathy Finley: But ironically, like I said, as I was coming back on that paint trip, I actually said that at lunch that day, I was going to go to the Humane Society and pick out a cat so I could have a cat and have some companionship.
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Kathy Finley: So it was kind of, I wanted a cat and they brought me a cat.
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Kathy Finley: And I think the bigger irony, which is that the cat was the same color as the cat that I had and marked almost the same way as the cat I had as a child.
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Kathy Finley: It had done so much for me as a child and I couldn't believe it.
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Kathy Finley: And I said, did I ever tell you guys that I had a cat this color?
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Kathy Finley: No.
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Kathy Finley: We found this freak cat for you on the south side of Indianapolis.
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Kathy Finley: And I'm like, okay.
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Kathy Finley: But they got me all the accoutrements to go along with the cat, the litter box and all the toys and stuff like that.
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Kathy Finley: But it was just kind of weird how that happened.
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Kathy Finley: That I was ready to go to get one and they brought me one.
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Tim Link: You put it out to the universe and the universe found some helpers.
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Tim Link: And wow.
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Tim Link: Manifested.
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Kathy Finley: It was like this was meant to be.
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Kathy Finley: And then I had to close the door because she was bouncing all over the wall.
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Kathy Finley: I was afraid she'd get out of the street from our office.
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Kathy Finley: And I came back and that's one of the stories in there.
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Kathy Finley: I mean, my desk was a total mess.
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Kathy Finley: She'd taken all the paper clips out, pencils, pens, papers on the thing.
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Kathy Finley: And then she walked, she must have walked across the keyboard, I don't know how many times, but there were, I don't know, 40, 50 pages she had typed of gibberish, which was good because I would have really worried if it were something.
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Kathy Finley: She could actually write as a cat.
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Tim Link: That would be a whole new form of AI.
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Tim Link: Right.
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Tim Link: They probably could.
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Tim Link: I wouldn't put it past a cat.
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Tim Link: That's for sure.
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Tim Link: All right.
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Tim Link: We're going to take a quick commercial break.
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Tim Link: We'll come back and continue our conversation with Kathy M.
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Tim Link: Finley, a little bit about her book, My One-Eyed, Three-Legged, Three-Legged Therapist, My Cat Cleo Saved Me.
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Tim Link: So everybody hang tight.
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Tim Link: We continue our conversation with author.
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Tim Link: Finley about her book, My One-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist, How My Cat Cleo Saved Me.
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Tim Link: Now, Kathy, when everybody picks up a copy of the book and they read through it and read out the wonderful stories that are inside and learn a little bit more about you and Cleo, what do you hope they walk away from?
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Tim Link: Do you have a takeaway or something that you hope that the reading audience walks away from?
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Kathy Finley: Well, I hope they're entertained because I hope it's a good story.
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Kathy Finley: That happens to be a true story, but a good story, so I hope they're entertained.
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Kathy Finley: I hope that they realize the benefits of whether it's cat or dog or some other pet, what they can do for us, although I wouldn't advocate just adopting the pet to see what they can do for you.
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Kathy Finley: But basically, I think to just show how maybe people, how pets can help us and how maybe we should observe them a little bit more, and see what we can learn from them, and maybe help us become better humans.
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Tim Link: There you go.
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Tim Link: They are our master teachers and healers for sure.
00:16:51.598 --> 00:16:52.678
Tim Link: Switch gears slightly.
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Tim Link: Here's talk about writing, writing in general and pick your brain as far as, what is your writing style and how do you go about crafting your skills here?
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Tim Link: Are you up at 5 AM every morning and writing 5,000 words type of author, or are you like me and wait till almost the deadline and then get the rest of it completed?
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Kathy Finley: I think I used to be, when I started this, I was very diligent about getting up and writing right away.
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Kathy Finley: Now I have a different set of cats.
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Kathy Finley: I have two now, I did have three, but unfortunately one passed, but it got me up early and I'm running around for them.
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Kathy Finley: I think on this book, I was the very diligent type of person, and now I'm trying to get back into that habit because a lot of, when you write a book, you're also doing some of the marketing, and so that has taken away from it.
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Kathy Finley: So I need to set aside that time.
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Kathy Finley: I do my best work in the morning, and so I need to get back into that.
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Kathy Finley: I like, in terms of just, I don't know if you want to talk about style, I enjoy, I've always been a storyteller.
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Kathy Finley: Ask any of my friends.
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Kathy Finley: I'm always telling stories, maybe by detriment and they get tired of them.
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Kathy Finley: But I like telling a good story, so I like to weave it into a story.
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Kathy Finley: As to my next book, which I'm trying to get back into, it's going to be more like a lot of different stories about animals.
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Kathy Finley: Some of them are mine, some of them are other people.
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Kathy Finley: Just again, I was going to call it Pet Teachers instead of Teacher's Deaths, and just what we can learn from them.
00:18:33.578 --> 00:18:35.258
Kathy Finley: Some lessons good, some lessons bad.
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Kathy Finley: What we can learn from animals.
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Kathy Finley: I thought about different things I want to do, but like I said, I think the best you get it done right away, but some of the blogs and things.
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Kathy Finley: I'm working on a couple of blogs now for different sites, and I've been the latter one like you.
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Kathy Finley: I've waited till the last minute.
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Kathy Finley: All of the other stuff.
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Tim Link: That's it.
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Tim Link: I speak for myself and speak for a lot of different authors.
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Tim Link: There's usually a lot of projects going on at once.
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Tim Link: Whether they're short stories, like you said, or a blog that you're working on, an idea that you have, starting a book, getting some chapters written and maybe that gets put on the shelf.
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Tim Link: I remember my first book, Wagon Tales, came out shortly thereafter, talked to the editor and had this great idea for another story.
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Tim Link: I thought it would be fantastic.
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Tim Link: Then I had this third idea that I'd started on, but sort of put it on the shelf because I didn't think it was timing was right.
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Tim Link: And so when I spoke to the editor, they said, well, yeah, that second book sounds pretty good, but do you have something more on the lines of XYZ?
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Tim Link: I'm like, well, yes, I do.
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Tim Link: And I pulled it off the shelf, literally, blew the dust off of it, if you can imagine that, is actually on computer.
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Tim Link: But I can visualize blowing the dust off of it and said, yeah, I do have something and it works on that.
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Tim Link: And lo and behold, that became my second book.
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Tim Link: So yeah, I think as you're a writer and author, writing for different publications and writing for different, whether it's a blog or a magazine or online magazine, whatever it may be, while you're also trying to craft your stories and your books, you tend to have a lot of different things going on at one time.
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Kathy Finley: And it's not, I mean, the other thing is when you're retired, you tend to think, well, I'm not necessarily doing this for the money anymore.
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Kathy Finley: This is not my livelihood.
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Kathy Finley: So you can, I'm okay.
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Kathy Finley: But I would say the best thing is writing the ideas down, like you said, even if it ends up on a shelf, because you never know when you might get re-inspired or when somebody wants the time is right for that one, that you got a shelf or you had a writer's block and couldn't go any further.
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Kathy Finley: I think of all the ideas I had when I was working for different, not just on the animal, but different things that I'm thinking, why didn't I write those things down?
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Kathy Finley: Because now I don't remember.
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Kathy Finley: But it kind of jogs your memory and I look back at some of the things that I'm writing and I'm trying to get the second book and I have a third one too.
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Kathy Finley: And I'm thinking, oh yeah, I wrote that down because I would have forgotten going on to different things.
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Tim Link: So absolutely, absolutely.
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Tim Link: And you hit it on the head.
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Tim Link: Nowadays, especially, it's writing the book and getting it published and getting into print is one thing.
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Tim Link: But the marketing aspect behind it and promoting it and the things you have to do, that takes usually twice as long as it did to write the book.
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Kathy Finley: Right.
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Tim Link: Well, Kathy, where can people find out more about you and what's going on and keep up with your writing?
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Kathy Finley: Well, I do have a website, which I'm trying to keep up to date.
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Kathy Finley: It's pretty up to date.
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Kathy Finley: I've got another blog I have to do for that.
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Kathy Finley: And that's kathyfinley.com.
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Kathy Finley: No M in it, it's kathyfinley.com so they can keep up with that.
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Kathy Finley: That's probably the best way to keep up with me.
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Kathy Finley: I'm trying to get out to more blogs right now.
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Kathy Finley: I used to do one that was pretty regularly for Lola, the rescued cat.
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Kathy Finley: And that one's been put on hold.
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Kathy Finley: There's a couple that have been put on hold.
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Kathy Finley: So, but I just go to my website and I'm going to keep everybody up to date on where I'm at and where am I appearing to speak.
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Tim Link: Absolutely.
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Tim Link: All right.
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Tim Link: Well, we'll post that on the site.
00:22:25.618 --> 00:22:26.918
Tim Link: It's kathyfinley.com.
00:22:26.918 --> 00:22:28.818
Tim Link: And definitely take a look at the website.
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Tim Link: Keep up with what's going on with Kathy.
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Tim Link: And everybody pick up a copy of the book.
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Tim Link: It's My One-Eyed, Three-Legged Therapist, How My Cat Cleo Saved Me by Kathy Finley.
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Tim Link: Kathy, thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Tim Link: Congratulations.
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Tim Link: It's on a great book and great stories.
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Tim Link: And we'll look forward to chatting with you again somewhere down the road.
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Kathy Finley: Well, thank you very much.
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Kathy Finley: I enjoyed being on the show.
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Tim Link: Oh, our pleasure.
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Tim Link: All right.
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Tim Link: Well, we're coming to the end of the show today.
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