Adopting Dogs from Overseas to Vancouver Homes
Deborah Wolfe talks to Jan Olson from Last Dog Rescue about the Mexican rescue dogs she’s worked with over the years and asks about the Iranian dogs and how dogs from the different areas compare. Jan explains how adoptions work from start to finish and describes one happy family and very happy little rescue dog who came out from under the couch and into the bed of his owners after some weeks. Loved at Long Last Dog Rescue needs people travelling home to Vancouver from Mexico, Iran, China, Korea, Northwest territories or California to offer to bring a rescue dog back as checked baggage (no charge to you and other people will deliver and collect the dog from the airports. Foster homes, Adoption families and Donations also needed.
Listen to Episode #184 Now:
BIO:
I am 70 yrs old, married and a retired airline pilot. I started my first dog rescue in 2006. I left it in 2014 to start Loved At Last. I live on 5 acres in Aldergrove which I bought in 2014 to save a dog named Charlie. He was unadoptable due to crippling fear of the outside world so he couldn't be walked on city streets. After a year of refusing to come out of his crate in his foster home, except to eat and relieve himself, Charlie was going to be euthanized to spare him more years of devastating fear and misery. So I bought five fenced acres where Charlie can roam free without having any contact with other people. He loves it here. The attached photo is of Charlie lying on the bridge over our stream, one of his favorite places to hang out. The other is of him smiling, which he does often now.
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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.
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Deborah Wolfe: Hello, you're listening to Animal Party and Pet Life Radio.
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Deborah Wolfe: And this is me, Deborah Wolfe.
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Deborah Wolfe: And I'm kind of smiling, because I was listening to the, watching TV, and they did a promo for a new show I haven't seen yet called The Trades on Crave.
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Deborah Wolfe: But the way they promoted it, they quoted the characters having a conversation, and one of them, a guy, says to this woman, did you shave in my hot tub?
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Deborah Wolfe: And the woman answers, no, just my pets.
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Deborah Wolfe: And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, I have got to watch that show.
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Deborah Wolfe: All right, everybody, welcome to the show.
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Deborah Wolfe: We've got Jan Olson back on the show again from Loved at Loss Dogs Rescue, where they take dogs from other countries like China, Korea, Iran, Northwest Territories in Canada, California, in the US, Mexico sometimes.
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Deborah Wolfe: And they find them great homes here.
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Deborah Wolfe: And how they do that is with a web site and the dogs, including that one you're hearing probably, go directly from those countries to homes.
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Deborah Wolfe: Almost a little bit of fostering, but usually not right into your home.
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Deborah Wolfe: So if you wanted to, you could go on her website and look at the pictures of the beautiful dogs.
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Jan Olson: Most of them are not as noisy as this one.
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Jan Olson: She's Iranian and she has a lot to say.
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Jan Olson: Oh my goodness.
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Deborah Wolfe: We're gonna talk about that because we touched on that a little bit in the last show, how Mexican dogs sometimes come with parasites, how often the Californian dogs are smaller than the others, how the Northwest Territory dogs are often not spayed or neutered.
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Deborah Wolfe: But what's going on with the Iranian dogs?
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Deborah Wolfe: What's their profile?
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Deborah Wolfe: Is it sort of like a reserve dog, skittish?
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Jan Olson: Oh, no, no.
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Jan Olson: No.
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Jan Olson: Not at all.
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Jan Olson: Most of the dogs that come are, almost all of them are very friendly and gentle and loving dogs.
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Jan Olson: They're just almost exclusively, that's true.
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Jan Olson: But part of that is because only really friendly dogs can be rescued from the streets.
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Deborah Wolfe: Yeah.
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Jan Olson: Right?
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Jan Olson: So aggressive dogs, dogs that are afraid of people or snarl or bark at people, no one's going to rescue them in Iran or any other country for that matter.
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Jan Olson: So the dogs that get rescued are very adoptable dogs, very sweet and gentle.
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Jan Olson: And so that's what we get.
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Jan Olson: If they have any behavioral problems, it's just usually because of the fear they have of having flown halfway around the world and coming to a perfect stranger's home.
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Jan Olson: And they are nervous at first, but that always, they always relax.
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Jan Olson: Usually within the first few days, sometimes as long as three weeks, but they always chill out and relax and realize they're safe and become the sweet, gentle dogs that we all want.
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Deborah Wolfe: The Mexican rescue dogs I've met were very opportunistic dogs.
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Deborah Wolfe: The kind who would charm tourists on the beach, the kind who would get along with anybody and everyone.
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Jan Olson: Yeah.
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Deborah Wolfe: But once they get here, it's a new Canadian home that pampers them, they can get really bratty.
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Jan Olson: Oh, I haven't found that, really.
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Jan Olson: At least our adopters have complained about that.
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Deborah Wolfe: Whatever.
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Deborah Wolfe: Well, they won't complain.
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Deborah Wolfe: They put up with it.
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Deborah Wolfe: The thing is, these dogs are so able to read people and figure out what works in their environment.
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Deborah Wolfe: They'll figure out what works in your environment completely.
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Deborah Wolfe: You know, they'll rule the roost with a bunch of bigger dogs that do their bidding, you know?
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Jan Olson: And that's true, they do, because as stray dogs living on the streets, they have to adapt themselves in order to make themselves appealing so that people will feed them.
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Jan Olson: So they learn to read people, and they learn to make themselves very appealing by being friendly and gentle.
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Jan Olson: And that's what they are.
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Jan Olson: That's what they become.
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Jan Olson: Sometimes when they come and they get home and they realize they're safe, and they learn to relax and settle in, that they become more confident.
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Jan Olson: And so, but it doesn't mean that they're aggressive at all.
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Jan Olson: They aren't.
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Jan Olson: And dogs do not become, do dogs do not become aggressive when they gain confidence.
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Jan Olson: It's the other way around.
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Jan Olson: Dogs are aggressive when they're feeling fearful.
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Jan Olson: And as they gain confidence, they become more gentle.
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Jan Olson: So, but dogs have a right to express themselves and let you know what they want.
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Jan Olson: So I prefer a confident dog to a submissive dog.
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Jan Olson: Most dogs that arrive aren't fairly submissive because they don't know what to expect there.
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Jan Olson: They're afraid they've landed in the home of a complete stranger.
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Jan Olson: So they are going to be quite fearful and submissive and nervous at first.
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Jan Olson: But then as they realize, and it just can take a matter of days, they realize they're safe, they've found their place in the world, and they finally relax and are ready to be who they are.
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Deborah Wolfe: We're gonna go to a break and come back.
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Deborah Wolfe: And I'm gonna ask Jan, how do you pick the people to adopt the dogs?
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Deborah Wolfe: Hello, we're back on Animal Party Pet Life Radio, and we are talking to Jan Olson about rescuing dogs from other countries and placing them in homes here.
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Deborah Wolfe: So how do you find the homes here?
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Jan Olson: Okay, so people go to our website, and they fill out, the first step is to fill out an adoption application.
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Jan Olson: And our adoption application is quite long.
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Jan Olson: We ask a lot of questions, because even though the dogs are coming off the streets, that doesn't mean they are not entitled to have a really good home, not just any home.
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Jan Olson: So we have a fairly strict adoption criteria.
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Jan Olson: I am not going to describe our adoption criteria, because if people know what they are, that's 10% of the answers we get on the application.
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Deborah Wolfe: Yeah, they lie for sure.
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Deborah Wolfe: It's like the cat rescues you.
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Deborah Wolfe: Will you get, do you have a cat door?
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Deborah Wolfe: No, I'm gonna keep my cat inside, but actually.
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Jan Olson: Exactly, yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Jan Olson: So we have first of this adoption application.
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Jan Olson: And if that looks good, and that meets our adoption criteria, then we do a phone interview with them to discuss some further expand upon some of the answers.
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Jan Olson: And then if that all goes well, we do a home visit.
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Jan Olson: It can be during COVID that was a Zoom home visit.
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Jan Olson: And now we sort of have kept that going a little bit, but also we do in-person home visits as well.
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Jan Olson: It's really nice to get to meet the person that's going to adopt one of your dogs.
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Jan Olson: And so once everybody gets through the approval process for the dog they've applied, this is all, now they've picked a dog on our website, they go through the approval process, and now that dog is, with the rescuer who has that dog in the country overseas, now looks for a flight for that dog to come to Vancouver.
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Jan Olson: And that means finding a passenger willing to bring them as excess luggage, because to fly a dog by cargo from halfway around the world is prohibitively expensive.
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Jan Olson: Adoption fees would have to be around $3,000 in order to afford to send dogs by cargo.
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Jan Olson: So we have to find a passenger who will bring them as luggage, which is much less costly.
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Deborah Wolfe: So if you're listening and you're flying from Vancouver to one of these places, return, should they connect with you if they're willing to take that on?
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Deborah Wolfe: It won't cost them, right?
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Deborah Wolfe: You'll pay.
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Jan Olson: No, it doesn't cost them anything.
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Jan Olson: The cost of the dog's excess luggage cost is paid for by the rescue overseas.
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Jan Olson: So all they're doing is saving a dog.
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Jan Olson: They're not paying them one bit.
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Jan Olson: And the dog is brought to the airport for them.
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Jan Olson: They don't have to do anything except check that dog in when they check in their own luggage.
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Jan Olson: That's it.
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Jan Olson: That's all they have to do.
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Jan Olson: And at the airport in Vancouver, the dog is picked up by the owner of the dog, or if it's being fostered by the foster of the dog.
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Jan Olson: So all they have to do is bring the dog with their luggage to outside of security and the dog is picked up there.
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Jan Olson: So it's virtually effortless for people to do this.
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Deborah Wolfe: What if they're flying out of Abbotsford?
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Jan Olson: They have to come to the Vancouver airport.
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Jan Olson: You mean if somebody is flying out of Abbotsford overseas?
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Jan Olson: Oh yeah, we can accommodate that.
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Deborah Wolfe: Like Mexico, Abbotsford, there's a lot of people in the Fraser Valley who do that.
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Deborah Wolfe: They go from Abbotsford, I think it stops in Calgary and then it goes to like Cancun or whatever.
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Jan Olson: Exactly.
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Jan Olson: So if they're coming back to Abbotsford, absolutely we have our adopters meet them at the Abbotsford airport.
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Jan Olson: It's actually much easier at the Abbotsford airport.
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Deborah Wolfe: I know, I love to fly out of there.
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Deborah Wolfe: It's like an old style airport.
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Deborah Wolfe: It is.
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Deborah Wolfe: No fuss, no muss, one big room.
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Jan Olson: Yeah, I love it.
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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, so we're gonna go to break and come back and tell you how to get on the list, how to help out, how to reach them.
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Deborah Wolfe: And maybe a story or two about some of these families you've made now.
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Deborah Wolfe: Hello, we're back in Animal Party, Pet Life Radio.
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Deborah Wolfe: And I'd love to know about, well, first of all, how do people do this?
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Jan Olson: First of all, I would ask the people, don't do this casually.
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Jan Olson: Having a dog is not like having a plant.
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Jan Olson: You have a lot of time commitment, exercise commitments, and space in your home commitment.
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Jan Olson: So a dog is like having a child, really, and your responsibilities towards it.
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Jan Olson: So it's not something that you do casually.
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Jan Olson: Oh, I feel like having a dog, I think I'll get a dog.
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Jan Olson: That happened a lot during COVID, because people were stuck at home and they wanted company, so they applied to get a dog.
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Jan Olson: We made sure that our dogs that were being adopted to people who wanted a dog during COVID, were not gonna give up on that dog once they went back to work.
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Jan Olson: So we didn't really find any increase because we were very strict about where the dogs went.
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Jan Olson: And once that happens, once the dogs find a flight to Vancouver, we used to go to the airport all the time and pick up our dogs.
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Jan Olson: I was going to the airport three times a week.
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Jan Olson: And that was more than when I worked as an airline pilot for Air Canada, when I went three times a month.
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Jan Olson: So I was going to the airport three times a week to pick up the dogs and I got burnt out.
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Jan Olson: So we decided now we've created a format where we have all the information that an adopter needs to go to the airport and pick up their dog themselves with somebody, a volunteer there.
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Jan Olson: So that's what we do now.
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Jan Olson: Adopters now go to the airport to pick up their dog, import the dog themselves, because in fact, Canada Customs requires now that the owners of the dogs privately import their dog.
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Jan Olson: The rescue can no longer commercially import dogs.
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Jan Olson: That's not allowed from about 130 countries around the world.
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Jan Olson: That will all went into effect a few years ago.
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Jan Olson: So we had to change our procedure where now the owners have to go to the airport to pick up their dog, and then they take them home.
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Deborah Wolfe: Well, that's one exciting pickup.
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Deborah Wolfe: I mean, you always see the romantic couples with the flowers and everything.
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Deborah Wolfe: These people must be standing there with squeaky toys and bows, just seatbelt, doggy seatbelt, all excited.
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Jan Olson: Yes, exactly.
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Deborah Wolfe: It's in the way.
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Deborah Wolfe: So yeah, okay, tell me about a story, like a dog that came from somewhere and what his hard luck story and his good ending was.
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Jan Olson: His good ending was, okay, so we had a small dog who came from Iran, who had been living on the streets since it was born as a puppy.
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Jan Olson: So its only contact with people was generally to be kicked or to be tried to run over, because that's what people in Iran do, with stray dogs on the street, they will kick them, poison them, or try and hit them with their cars.
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Jan Olson: And actually I have a dog, a three-legged dog from Iran who was run over by a car and lost her rear leg.
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Jan Olson: So they're nervous, they're scared, and they do not trust people.
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Jan Olson: So one dog, but generally speaking, it doesn't take very long for them to realize that people, not all people are like that.
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Jan Olson: But this one dog that we brought over had, I guess a particularly terrible experience in Iran and was so terrified that he would hide and he was small enough that he could hide under their sofa.
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Jan Olson: And they could not get him out.
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Jan Olson: They had to keep moving the sofa, trap him.
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Jan Olson: But anytime they let him run loose in the house, he would run back under the sofa.
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Jan Olson: He was so scared.
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Jan Olson: And eventually what they did, and he knew what his favorite treat was, and they would just put it on the edge of the sofa, just where he had to stick his head out to grab the treat.
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Jan Olson: And then a little bit farther, and then a little bit farther until he had to get his whole body out to come in.
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Jan Olson: And he finally learned that if I come out from under the sofa, there's a whole pile of these treats sitting in the middle of the living room floor.
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Jan Olson: So with a little trail of the treats to this pile.
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Jan Olson: So eventually they got him to come out.
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Jan Olson: And every time they came out, they didn't try and touch him because he didn't want to be touched at this point yet.
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Jan Olson: Because for him, touch had always been a hit or a kick, something painful.
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Jan Olson: So it took him a long time to understand that touch didn't have to be that way.
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Jan Olson: In fact, touch felt very good.
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Jan Olson: And eventually they just, just a little bit of petting, a little bit of petting.
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Jan Olson: And eventually one day, just like that, he no longer went under the sofa.
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Jan Olson: And he in fact came into the bedroom, laid beside their bed, and then eventually they were able to coax him up onto the bed.
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Jan Olson: And eventually he slept between the two of them with his head on their pillow on the bed.
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Jan Olson: And that took about, I would say about two months for him to go from not coming out from under the sofa to sleeping with his head on the pillow in the middle of the bed.
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Deborah Wolfe: It always amazes me how, yes, it always amazes me how quickly animals recover because two months sounds like a long time.
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Deborah Wolfe: But if a human was deprived, well, not really.
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Jan Olson: It is a long time for dogs.
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Jan Olson: It isn't?
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Jan Olson: Yeah, because imagine years of abuse and two months you learn that you're safe.
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Jan Olson: Yeah, trust and love.
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Deborah Wolfe: Like imagine a human growing up their entire childhood abused and then all of a sudden two months later, they can love and trust.
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Deborah Wolfe: It's pretty quick turnaround.
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Deborah Wolfe: Dogs really do live in the moment as much as they can.
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Jan Olson: It's in their genetic makeup for them to want to connect with us.
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Jan Olson: We bred them for that reason.
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Jan Olson: So it's in them.
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Jan Olson: So it just has to be unlocked.
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Jan Olson: And once it's unlocked, it's like a switch that goes off for them.
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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, so if someone's listening today and they want to get involved, maybe they're taking a trip and they're going to go back and forth and they wouldn't mind having a dog get saved on their way back from Mexico or any one of these places, the Northwest Territories, California, China, Korea, or Iran, if you're going there and coming back to Vancouver, or if you would like a dog or you think you could foster a dog, how can they get a hold of you, Jan?
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Jan Olson: Okay, to foster or adopt a dog, they go to our website at lovedatlastdogrescue.
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Jan Olson: I know that's a lot,.
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Jan Olson: ca, L-O-V-E-D-A-T-L-A-S-T-D-O-G-R-E-S-C-U-E, lovedatlastdogrescue.ca.
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Jan Olson: So that's where you go to apply to adopt or to foster a dog.
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Jan Olson: When you apply to a foster, you don't apply to foster a specific dog.
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Jan Olson: Just you fill out the foster application, which is very obvious on the website, and then you can put in there what size or type of dogs, if you want to be specific, you'd like to foster.
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Jan Olson: We prefer if people will just be willing to foster any dog, but we do understand that some people have size restrictions in where they live.
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Jan Olson: But to want to help us bring a dog back from overseas, they can email me at janjan at laldr.ca.
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Jan Olson: That's the initials for love that last dog rescue.ca.
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Deborah Wolfe: And well, it was so nice talking to you.
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Deborah Wolfe: How many dogs do you think you've helped this way?
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Jan Olson: I personally started out in dog rescue in 2006.
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Jan Olson: So I have been involved with rescuing thousands of dogs from overseas.
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Jan Olson: The last count was 3,500, but that was a few years ago.
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Jan Olson: So we used to, at my former rescue during, when it was really, when we were pretty much the only game in town, we're rescuing and rehoming a dog a day.
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Jan Olson: But now there are numerous rescues in the lower mainland and most of them have started with me.
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Jan Olson: So now we have great competition, which is wonderful because more dogs are getting rescued, but fewer from us.
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Jan Olson: So we don't find homes for quite as many as we used to when we were the only game in town, but still we rehome a couple of dogs a week.
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Jan Olson: So yeah, it's in the thousands.
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Deborah Wolfe: Well, thank you very much from everybody at Animal Party, Pet Life Radio, all my listeners.
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Deborah Wolfe: Thank you so much for being so good to animals and everybody out there.
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Deborah Wolfe: Be good to your animals.
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Deborah Wolfe: Thanks for listening.
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