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BIO:

A 30+ year homeopathic healer in her personal life, Jody helps pet parents learn how to naturally and holistically heal their pets, so they will have gentle, powerful tools in their kit to avoid drugs when they can and help extend their lives.  Teiche is a Certified Pet Homeopathic Educator and her program, 3 Key Health Pillars Every Pet Parent Should Know (And Why They Lead to a Longer Life), is offered a couple of times a year. Stay tuned to the next presentation.

She was a blogger, radio host and fashion editor of Hampton’s Pet magazine in the pet fashion and rescue space with her brand, Bark & Swagger for several years, and still interviews designers, authors and activists on her podcast of the same name, which reaches over 250,000 on demand listeners.

She also currently has a podcast called The Hound Healer Reports…, which is the destination for pet parents wanting tips and expert interviews all about natural healing for our pets.

Transcript:

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Announcer: This is PetLife Radio.

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Linda Hall: Jody Teiche is a health coach, and we know about health coaches for people, which she is, but she's also a natural pet health coach for your animals.

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Linda Hall: Did you know this was out there?

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Linda Hall: She has been working for many years with this stuff.

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Linda Hall: She's been a pet homeopathy educator with over 35 years of experience.

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Linda Hall: So we wanna find out what this is about and how it's gonna help our animals right after we're from our sponsor.

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Linda Hall: Welcome back to 19 Cats and Counting.

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Linda Hall: I'm your co-host Linda Hall.

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Linda Hall: Here with the ever-gorgeous, my BFF, my ride or die, Rita Reimers.

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Rita Reimers: Can you believe it is 5.15 in the afternoon, and it's already dark.

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Linda Hall: And it's dark.

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Linda Hall: I don't like it.

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Linda Hall: I don't think like savings time, they need to about.

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Rita Reimers: I have to finish.

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Rita Reimers: I have to fix the lighting in my office, so.

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Rita Reimers: I'm in the dark right now.

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Rita Reimers: But that's enough about me and my dark office.

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Rita Reimers: Welcome to 19 Cats and Counting.

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Rita Reimers: We're so excited.

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Rita Reimers: Thanks for being here.

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Jody Teiche: Thank you so much for having me.

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Jody Teiche: I'm so excited to be here.

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Jody Teiche: And you ladies are awesome.

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Rita Reimers: Aw, thank you.

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Linda Hall: Just a couple crazy old cat ladies.

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Rita Reimers: Welcome to the Pet Life Radio family.

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Rita Reimers: You also have a radio show on Pet Life Radio.

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Rita Reimers: Two.

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Rita Reimers: Tell us about those.

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Linda Hall: Yes, Bark and Swagger.

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Jody Teiche: I have a show since 2014 called Bark and Swagger.

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Jody Teiche: Then it was for me, it was about living stylishly with your dog.

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Jody Teiche: Sorry, everybody listening.

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Jody Teiche: And rescue, which we all love.

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Jody Teiche: And so I would interview Pet Session Designers and people in the rescue space and authors in the rescue space.

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Jody Teiche: And it was really wonderful and I loved it.

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Jody Teiche: And I grew the show to half a million listeners, which was super, super cool.

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Rita Reimers: That's amazing.

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Rita Reimers: We might need you to coach us along.

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Linda Hall: Right?

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Jody Teiche: But having the Pet Life Radio platform is really helpful too.

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Jody Teiche: And then in the last year or so, I had the new, the Pet Health Coach show as well.

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Jody Teiche: Bark and Swagger is still on Pet Life Radio, but I also have the Pet Health Coach, which is what my passion is and has been for the past few years, is natural healing in animals, so.

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Rita Reimers: We love that too.

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Linda Hall: So is that, yeah, if you could define what it is you do in a nutshell, for those of us who are not familiar with it, what would that be?

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Jody Teiche: So just like health coaches in the human world, head health coaches are a bridge.

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Jody Teiche: Sometimes they're a bridge between the pet parents and the vet, or the natural vet or practitioner.

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Jody Teiche: We are, we know more than the average bear.

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Jody Teiche: So we talk and guide about nutrition.

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Jody Teiche: So it's knowledge transfer, it's resources, it's being a champion for you, a safe space that's non-judgmental where you can talk about what you're grappling with, how to move forward.

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Jody Teiche: We create plans together and we're accountability partners.

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Jody Teiche: So we are that person who takes the ball down the field for you from where you are with your animal, where your animal is to where you want to be.

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Rita Reimers: That's great, because nutrition is so difficult, especially when it comes to cats, for one, because they're so picky about what they eat.

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Rita Reimers: And for two, knowing what is safe out there, for one thing, and then how much they need and what nutrients they need, you might need to add to their diet.

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Jody Teiche: Yes, so nutrition is, there are certain similarities between dogs and cats when you look at history, okay?

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Jody Teiche: And before I get into that, every animal is bio-individual, just like every person is bio-individual.

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Jody Teiche: So what might work for my Suki isn't necessarily gonna work for one of your cats or the other.

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Jody Teiche: So it is a bit of experimentation, but what I will tell you is that if it's possible and your cat can either learn to or gravitate towards raw or some semblance of raw, that historically is what they ate as big cats.

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Jody Teiche: And while we've domesticated them, like we've domesticated dogs, what that really means is they sleep in our bed, they've got their own beds.

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Jody Teiche: Some people dress them up.

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Jody Teiche: You know, they are domesticated into our homes and our lives, but their digestive systems haven't changed that much.

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Jody Teiche: And they're designed, right?

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Jody Teiche: They're designed to eat the whole animal.

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Jody Teiche: So Suki, for example, my cat, she, we mix it up, okay?

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Jody Teiche: So she will have organ meats.

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Jody Teiche: Very important.

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Jody Teiche: Organ meats are critical for vitamins and minerals.

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Jody Teiche: They are the most nutritious part of the animal, more than muscle meat.

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Jody Teiche: And every organ, this is the coolest thing, every individual organ supports that organ in your animal.

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Linda Hall: So kidneys for kidney, heart for heart.

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Rita Reimers: Oh, that's interesting.

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Rita Reimers: It makes sense.

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Linda Hall: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: So you want to mix that up as much as you possibly can.

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Jody Teiche: Even, you know, things that are a little bit distasteful, like brains and stuff like that, but hearts and kidneys and livers and spleens, all of it.

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Linda Hall: Just close your eyes and do it.

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Linda Hall: My cats love those freeze-dried sardines.

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Linda Hall: They're just sardines.

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Rita Reimers: The minnow things from those crazy cat ladies.

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Rita Reimers: Munchy minnows.

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Linda Hall: I hate those things.

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Linda Hall: They look at me.

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Linda Hall: I'm just not, I'm not a fisher.

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Linda Hall: I've never been a hunter.

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Linda Hall: And so exactly.

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Linda Hall: So I'm like just kind of tapping the bed, kind of squirt them out without looking at them.

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Linda Hall: And then I just don't look at the cats for a while because someone will be walking out with just the eyeballs and the head sticking out of their mouth and I will vomit.

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Linda Hall: It's really disgusting.

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Jody Teiche: I know, I know.

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Linda Hall: They love it and it's good for them and it doesn't have the craft, so I do it.

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Linda Hall: I didn't exactly enjoy changing human diapers or feeding that mush they call baby food when my human kids were little either, but I did it.

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Linda Hall: Sometimes it was like, oh, your head turned.

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Rita Reimers: I didn't go through that.

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Jody Teiche: I, yeah, I did.

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Jody Teiche: I mean, my daughter is in her 30s, so I mean, it was a long time ago.

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Linda Hall: Yeah, my first born is 35, so yeah, I got you.

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Jody Teiche: There you go, yes.

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Jody Teiche: So we do what we have to do that's the best for our kids, furry or smooth.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: And so muscle meat is important.

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Jody Teiche: That's the bulk of the diet, maybe 70%.

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Jody Teiche: Organ meats are maybe 25 to 30%.

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Jody Teiche: With cats, you can feed a greater percentage than with dogs for organ meats.

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Jody Teiche: And then, and this is always a crapshoot with cats, the third component to a really well-rounded, you've got all your vitamins and minerals meal, is raw meaty bones.

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Jody Teiche: So the stuff that they would crunch up on the rabbit or whatever they killed.

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Jody Teiche: And Suki doesn't want to chew a bone.

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Jody Teiche: She's like a missed princess, you know?

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Jody Teiche: Just cut everything up for me and give it to me ready to chew, like ready-made.

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Rita Reimers: That's how my 17 are, yeah.

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Rita Reimers: They don't want to work for it.

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Linda Hall: I'm a princess, yeah.

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Jody Teiche: They don't want to work for it, right.

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Jody Teiche: So it doesn't always work with cats, but what I'll do is, there are some really beautiful, pre-made, raw brands that have the raw meaty bones ground up inside.

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Linda Hall: Something we can know, yes.

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Jody Teiche: And the muscle meat.

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Jody Teiche: They don't know, but they're getting the vitamins and minerals.

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Jody Teiche: And then sometimes I'll mix it up and some meals or days, I'll give them freeze-dried.

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Jody Teiche: I'll give her freeze-dried because she likes that too.

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Jody Teiche: And it's good for them.

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Jody Teiche: It's not as good as raw.

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Jody Teiche: Under raw, I have my food pyramid.

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Jody Teiche: And the quality, the vitality of the types of food in the pyramid go from the basement is kibble and pet parents need to understand, and this is especially relevant for cat parents, it is so devoid of moisture that it keeps your pet in a constant state of dehydration and it is promoting UTIs and cats, promoting the formation of crystals.

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Jody Teiche: So for that reason alone, it's not a great choice, but there are other reasons.

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Jody Teiche: The high heat means that all of the vitamins and minerals are killed, and what they add in is synthetic after the fact.

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Jody Teiche: And sometimes, number one, it's not as bioavailable by a long shot, and sometimes it creates inflammation, the form that it's in, it's not healthy.

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Rita Reimers: I have a cat, though, that I took in recently, one of them that belongs to our sanctuary, and he won't eat any wet food at all.

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Rita Reimers: I've tried everything I can think of, because the first 10 years of his life, all he ate was dry food.

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Rita Reimers: He doesn't really know what to do with the wet food.

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Jody Teiche: No, and Suki didn't at the beginning either, and he was in 10, she was young, so you have a bigger challenge on your hand.

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Jody Teiche: Wet food is the second rung up on the pyramid.

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Jody Teiche: So the reason why it's the second rung up from the basement is that, again, high heat, everything added synthetically, but it does have a lot more moisture.

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Jody Teiche: So it's better in that regard.

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Jody Teiche: And, you know, that's a big improvement there.

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Jody Teiche: The next rung up is dehydrated.

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Jody Teiche: Again, it's got a heat process to it, anytime you add heat, you're killing.

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Jody Teiche: Then above that is freeze-dried.

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Jody Teiche: Above that is hard-cooked, which is amazing if you can find a recipe or recipes that your cat loves.

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Rita Reimers: Oh, we failed at that.

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Rita Reimers: We both tried that.

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Linda Hall: I was going along okay, and I just needed to stick at it.

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Linda Hall: And I said, not everybody's biggest problem.

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Linda Hall: Like, oh, it's so much easier.

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Linda Hall: Just grab the thing out of the freezer or wherever.

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Jody Teiche: It's not easy home cooking.

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Jody Teiche: It is so not easy.

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Jody Teiche: Believe me, I know.

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Jody Teiche: I've been there.

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Jody Teiche: It's a lot easier to pull something out of the freezer, wait for it to defrost and pop it in the bowl.

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Jody Teiche: I know.

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Jody Teiche: But that is the next rung up, and with the meats or fish to just sear, really sear, if they won't have it completely raw.

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Jody Teiche: Because some animals don't like it raw, so searing helps.

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Jody Teiche: And then the little above that is the top of the pyramid, the point.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah.

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Rita Reimers: Don't you worry about salmonella and things like that, though, with raw meats?

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Jody Teiche: I don't, and I'll tell you why.

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Jody Teiche: In dogs and cats, two things make it very unlikely that they're going to pick these things up.

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Jody Teiche: It's more likely that we'll pick it up.

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Jody Teiche: So I use surgical gloves, or I wash my hands with soap and water immediately after handling.

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Jody Teiche: But in animals, the acid levels in their stomachs is so much higher, so much higher than ours.

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Jody Teiche: Just think about it.

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Jody Teiche: It's meant to completely break down gristle and bone.

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Jody Teiche: We can't do that.

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Jody Teiche: So it's very, very high acid, like battery acid in there.

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Jody Teiche: So it's unlikely that any being survive that level of acidity.

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Jody Teiche: And then the other reason is their transit system, the transit time to digest is so much shorter than ours.

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Jody Teiche: It's just have a shorter-

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Linda Hall: A lot less tract, yes.

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Linda Hall: So it gets through quicker.

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Jody Teiche: It moves through a lot faster.

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Linda Hall: That makes me feel better because that's always been my concern too.

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Linda Hall: And that's why I started trying to do home cook, which really, the process isn't difficult.

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Linda Hall: I found a good recipe.

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Rita Reimers: It's getting them to eat it.

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Linda Hall: And I got, you can get those organ meats and some of those less desirable chicken parts for pretty cheap.

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Linda Hall: You can do this a lot cheaper than you could buy cat food.

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Linda Hall: And I think I put in a little pureed pumpkin and I don't know, you know, and I had a little vegetable powder that had vitamins in it that I added to it.

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Linda Hall: And I just, what I needed to do was mix it with something that they liked, and then slowly keep shifting that ratio.

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Linda Hall: And I fell off and then never made another batch, but yeah, we can get back to that.

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Jody Teiche: It happens.

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Jody Teiche: It is absolutely, we know very well that cats hate change and that any change has to be so incremental that it can't be seen by the naked eye, so it takes time.

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Linda Hall: That is so true.

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Jody Teiche: It does.

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Jody Teiche: I do have a couple of tips with regards to, they don't need vegetables at all, but we are finding that having a little bit in there for fiber is not a bad idea.

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Jody Teiche: We're learning more and more.

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Jody Teiche: So you have options.

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Jody Teiche: There are companies like Green Juju, Green Juju is an amazing company, and they make a freeze dried greens blend.

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Jody Teiche: They make several different blends, but everything is organic.

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Jody Teiche: Everything is, they know exactly where it's sourced from.

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Jody Teiche: It's just really pristinely grown and harvested.

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Jody Teiche: It's a great, great brand.

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Jody Teiche: And they also make freeze dried food.

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Jody Teiche: And I think they're coming out with raw for dogs and cats as well.

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Linda Hall: Wonderful, yes.

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Jody Teiche: That's a great brand for your listeners to check out.

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Linda Hall: Yes, Green Choo Choo, everybody.

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Rita Reimers: Thank you.

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Linda Hall: And I'm so appreciative.

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Linda Hall: You even said that in a phrase earlier about without guilt, because yeah, people down the other end, they're like, you're gonna hate me for this.

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Linda Hall: I feed my cat dry food.

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Linda Hall: You're gonna hate me for this.

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Linda Hall: I had to take him in.

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Linda Hall: You're gonna hate me for this.

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Linda Hall: No, I don't hate you.

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Linda Hall: I don't hate you for anything.

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Linda Hall: Even if you did something horrible, it was probably done out of ignorance or you wouldn't care enough to hire a consultant on behavior.

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Rita Reimers: And then once they like it and they get stuck on it, it's hard to change it, right?

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Rita Reimers: Even if they want to change it.

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Jody Teiche: And that's experimentation if you want to.

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Jody Teiche: It's experimentation and it's literally starting out with like minuscule amounts and over time working up.

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Jody Teiche: And that's what we did with Suk.

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Jody Teiche: You know, we did that with her because at first she was like, what do I do with this?

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Linda Hall: And they'll starve.

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Linda Hall: They'd rather starve than eat something they don't like.

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Rita Reimers: It's true.

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Jody Teiche: Oh, it's crazy.

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Jody Teiche: I know.

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Rita Reimers: My 19 year old missy is up here right now cause I didn't come down to give her something else.

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Rita Reimers: Not liking what I've done to her.

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Jody Teiche: Because they know that we're going to cave.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Linda Hall: Eventually if I just keep looking at a flea enough, then she'll do something about it.

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Rita Reimers: I got scratched a second ago when I picked Jett up.

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Rita Reimers: So forgive me putting makeup on.

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Linda Hall: Ah, you're touching your face.

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Linda Hall: Put me on the stand.

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Linda Hall: But we've told people, they're like, look, I'm sorry, this is what I can afford.

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Linda Hall: So do some small things.

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Linda Hall: Like I said, those meats are very cheap.

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Linda Hall: Put them with a little bit of bone broth or something and cut it up and add it.

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Linda Hall: You'll be using less of that food.

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Linda Hall: No, it is not good for me to eat two meals of cheesecake a day.

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Rita Reimers: Why not?

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Linda Hall: Better to eat three meals.

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Linda Hall: I knew you'd argue with that.

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Linda Hall: Better to eat three meals of cheesecake or two meals of cheesecake and a broccoli, right?

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Rita Reimers: Like do what we can.

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Rita Reimers: Do they cancel each other out?

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Linda Hall: No, but it's a little less of the bad and a little more of the good.

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Jody Teiche: We're not going for human nutrition right now, but I get your point and you're absolutely right, and I agree with you.

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Jody Teiche: We meet people where they are.

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Jody Teiche: And it's the same with my human coaching clients as my pet parents.

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Jody Teiche: Not everybody is ready, whether it's financial, whether it's lifestyle, or whether it's philosophical.

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Jody Teiche: Not everybody is ready to jump completely into the pool, day one.

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Jody Teiche: So yes, the little bit that you can do, help every little bit.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Rita Reimers: And it does help with the turnover.

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Rita Reimers: How would you suggest getting a cat that won't eat anything but dry food to start accepting at least a little bit of wet food or raw food?

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Jody Teiche: Have you tried canned sardines in water?

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Jody Teiche: No salt added.

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Rita Reimers: I haven't tried that.

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Jody Teiche: Tried little teeny bits of sardines, fresh sardines.

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Rita Reimers: Ooh.

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Linda Hall: Something to get into that little matter.

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Rita Reimers: The stinkier the better, right?

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Jody Teiche: Of course.

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Jody Teiche: Same thing with canned salmon.

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Rita Reimers: What about canned tuna?

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Rita Reimers: You have to watch the mercury with that.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah, a little heavy on the mercury.

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Jody Teiche: I just can't stay away from that.

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Jody Teiche: But canned salmon, you could start there, little bits of egg.

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Linda Hall: There you go.

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Linda Hall: Yeah.

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Jody Teiche: What else is a fave, rave?

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Rita Reimers: The poor guy, he's 10, and he spends a lot of time by the water bowl, but he's had a checkup and there's nothing wrong with him.

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Rita Reimers: But it's because all he eats is dry food.

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Linda Hall: That makes you thirsty, right?

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Linda Hall: It's just like just munching on something that's taking all your moisture.

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Linda Hall: I mean, stick a piece in water and watch what it does.

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Linda Hall: So now imagine it's going into your body and it's sucking up all that water that you needed for your body to, yeah, that was supposed to help remove toxins and go through your body.

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Linda Hall: And now it's in that little piece of puff, right?

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Rita Reimers: That's a good analogy.

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Jody Teiche: Right.

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Jody Teiche: If your cat, what about cooked meats like what you would have for dinner?

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Rita Reimers: I've tried.

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Rita Reimers: My other cats will, but he won't.

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Rita Reimers: I don't know.

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Rita Reimers: Zuki is just an enigma.

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Rita Reimers: And Missy too, by two older cats.

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Linda Hall: Just put a little piece in with the dry food and see if he did just adjust to it a little, right?

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Linda Hall: Like the scent and love.

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Jody Teiche: He said that before you cook it, like just a little teeny bit of the broth, because maybe, you know, when you cook it, it's a different flavor.

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Jody Teiche: It's a different.

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Linda Hall: That's true.

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Jody Teiche: It's got those juices, you know.

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Jody Teiche: Loves it.

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Jody Teiche: What may be really yummy for us.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Linda Hall: Yep.

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Linda Hall: And start small.

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Linda Hall: And I do that with all my supplements.

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Linda Hall: You know, if they won't take a whole drop for fine, put one drop in, just put one drop in for a few days.

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Linda Hall: And then they'll get fine.

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Linda Hall: And then you'll put two drops in and you'll get it up, right?

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Linda Hall: Everything goes slow with the cats.

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Rita Reimers: And we're back with 19 Cats and Counting, and my co-host, Linda Hall, and Jody, I'm afraid to say your last name, because I know I'll say it wrong.

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Linda Hall: So I'll tell you what has had me upset, Jody, is worse than the food, is the products.

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Linda Hall: So in 2020, excuse me, we lost my son-in-law to COVID, unfortunately.

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Linda Hall: And thank you.

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Linda Hall: And my daughter had to move back home with their four cats.

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Linda Hall: That's kind of how that was.

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Linda Hall: So there was a lot of, you know, mayhem and trying to get everybody together.

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Rita Reimers: Mayhem, that's a good word for it.

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Linda Hall: Yeah, it was mayhem.

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Linda Hall: So we started looking for some over-the-counter, like calming products.

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Linda Hall: So the first thing I looked at was Nature's Miracle Calming Spray, because it says nature on it.

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Linda Hall: And it has three undisclosed preservatives that I had to pretend to be a detective to find, which aren't all three of which are not allowed in human cosmetics because they're known to be a moderate risk of organ toxicity.

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Rita Reimers: Yeah, sorry, Nature's Miracle.

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Rita Reimers: You're not natural and you are not a miracle.

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Rita Reimers: I used to use it a lot.

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Rita Reimers: And we weren't gonna call out names of products when we came across things, but as we decided things that are toxic and harmful, we've got to name brands we have to.

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Linda Hall: Every time some 20-something, maybe 30 young lady is on talking to me and tells me she bought Rizal's urine destroyer, which has four ingredients in it, which cause reproductive and developmental toxicity.

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Linda Hall: I'm like, I'm sorry.

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Rita Reimers: Or they just say they have an enzyme cleaner.

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Rita Reimers: And we used to get excited.

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Rita Reimers: Oh, good.

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Rita Reimers: But now we're like, what is it?

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Linda Hall: Because it's all be such a miracle.

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Linda Hall: What is it?

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Linda Hall: Throw it away.

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Linda Hall: Just navigating to try to get safe things is all.

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Jody Teiche: I understand.

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Jody Teiche: And it's wonderful that you ladies are reading labels.

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Jody Teiche: You know, more pet parents need to be doing that.

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Jody Teiche: I am very grateful that I've come across certain products that I absolutely love.

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Linda Hall: Yes.

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Rita Reimers: That's why you're here.

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Rita Reimers: We love to hear that.

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Jody Teiche: See, one of the first that we talked about a little bit before the show is a pre, pro and post-biotic.

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Jody Teiche: We know the gut microbiome is where all good and poor health begins.

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Jody Teiche: And the vagus nerve that goes from the gut to the brain, the longest nerve in the body for dogs, cats and people is the hotline.

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Jody Teiche: They communicate all day long and 80% or 90% of the serotonin in our pets' bodies and in our bodies are manufactured in the gut.

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Jody Teiche: 80% of the immune system is in the gut.

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Rita Reimers: Yeah, there's been a lot in the press lately about people and that vagus nerve and how your diet affects even if you're gonna get Alzheimer's or not.

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Jody Teiche: Absolutely true.

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Jody Teiche: Absolutely true.

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Rita Reimers: So it's the same for our pets.

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Jody Teiche: Exactly, I was just gonna say, when you think about dementia in animals, I mean, diet is a foundation piece for all of that.

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Jody Teiche: And this takes time.

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Jody Teiche: It's a poor diet over time that can lead to these kinds of health issues.

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Jody Teiche: So having a wonderful pre-pro and post-biotic is incredible because you don't hear about post-biotics.

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Linda Hall: No, you don't.

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Jody Teiche: That's true.

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Jody Teiche: Because there are many out there.

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Jody Teiche: What I love about this, and there are two of them, it's called mutgut and kittygut.

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Jody Teiche: And what I love about it is it's 33 strains of bacteria.

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Jody Teiche: They are put through like a boot camp.

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Jody Teiche: So, and what's so important about that is this boot camp shows the manufacturer who, my friend created this.

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Jody Teiche: I mean, she created it because she cured her own autoimmune disease with this formulation.

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Jody Teiche: She takes mutgut every day.

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Linda Hall: I was just gonna ask if that was cross species because I'm getting some mutgut.

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Jody Teiche: Yes, and she's coming out with a human product that's gonna be called Urban Florets, coming out any minute.

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Jody Teiche: It's all the same formulation.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: So these 33 strains, the reason they're put through this bootcamp is so that they can survive the high acidity of the stomachs of dogs and cats.

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Jody Teiche: Yet those bacteria strains can get down to the colon to do their work.

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Jody Teiche: The other thing that's amazing is that the fermentation process, they do a fermentation process with inactive spores, and that never happens, because that allows these metabolites to be created that are really beneficial for the gut and the body.

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Jody Teiche: So this is a very, it's a standalone in its field.

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Jody Teiche: There's no other product on the market that's like it, and it is really efficacious at work.

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Rita Reimers: Oh, we definitely need to do-

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Linda Hall: And that upsets a lot of pounds.

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Rita Reimers: We need to have your friend in our podcast.

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Linda Hall: Yes, yes.

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Jody Teiche: Oh, Michelle, totally, totally.

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Jody Teiche: And maybe what I'll do is I'll put the link, if any of your listeners want to order this.

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Linda Hall: Yes, please.

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Linda Hall: Send you the link and put it in the description.

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Linda Hall: Yes, definitely.

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Linda Hall: Definitely.

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Linda Hall: So much that our nutrition and health changes when you don't get it right.

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Linda Hall: Rita and I, excuse me.

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Linda Hall: Well, my daughter and son-in-law found a cat that somebody had dumped in a trailer park.

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Linda Hall: We thought she was a baby.

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Linda Hall: She's the size of maybe a six months old.

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Linda Hall: She's at least five or six now.

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Linda Hall: We're not 100 percent sure.

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Rita Reimers: She had bad nutrition.

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Linda Hall: She was eating out of trash cans.

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Linda Hall: She has horrible gut health.

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Linda Hall: If she is not, if she's dredged up.

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Linda Hall: I am horrible at on everybody in this house about wiping up their crumbs.

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Linda Hall: Because so help me, she looks one crumb and that cat's pooping everywhere.

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Linda Hall: She has a day on track.

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Linda Hall: I'm thinking this might be a good thing for Shad.

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Linda Hall: Definitely so much experimentation.

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Linda Hall: But you know that's and Rita's had a brother and sister said, unfortunately, Sonny's passed, but she saw a smoochie that were found at three weeks in a ditch.

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Linda Hall: We don't know how long they've been without nutrition.

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Linda Hall: And then of course they didn't get mom's milk.

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Rita Reimers: And they're both slower and slower.

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Linda Hall: And I say that there are a few sprites short of a happy meal up there.

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Linda Hall: It's all about the nutrition.

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Linda Hall: We just don't understand how important it is from the start.

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Rita Reimers: The kitten I just took in that we thought was a certain age.

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Rita Reimers: And I just took him in to be neutered because I thought he was six months old.

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Rita Reimers: Well, he caught up on the nutrition he was missing.

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Rita Reimers: And he's almost 10 pounds.

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Rita Reimers: We're like, no, he's more like nine months.

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Linda Hall: You're like, this is not a six month old cat.

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Rita Reimers: Yeah, no, he's not.

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Linda Hall: Nutrition, right?

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Linda Hall: Yes.

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Linda Hall: I'm glad she got him quick enough.

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Rita Reimers: I got him in time.

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Linda Hall: We didn't get shadow and time to make up the dirt.

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Linda Hall: I mean, she's living her best life, but I really wish that I could have sued her, but that just causes a myriad of problems.

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Jody Teiche: It does.

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Jody Teiche: I have another product that I want to share.

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Jody Teiche: I must share with you ladies, for your listeners and for your cats.

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Jody Teiche: It is called Cellular Boost.

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Jody Teiche: And what this is, this is another, I always meet the people.

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Jody Teiche: I make it my mission to meet the people who make these products because I'm sourcing.

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Jody Teiche: Cellular Boost is my friend Terry Elliott.

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Jody Teiche: And Terry, this was a human product, but in the human product, they had things like xylitol and peppermint oil, and we don't want that for animals.

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Jody Teiche: So the doctor that formulated the human product, she said, I would love to offer this for pets.

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Jody Teiche: This was several years ago.

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Jody Teiche: And she said, can you make it without xylitol and peppermint oil?

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Jody Teiche: And he said, yeah, I'll do it.

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Jody Teiche: And so that happened for a few years.

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Jody Teiche: And he said, I'm not going to make this anymore for pets.

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Jody Teiche: And so she said, well, will you give the formulation to me for pets?

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Jody Teiche: And he did, and she became a friend of his.

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Jody Teiche: And so this is Cellular Boost and this Special Omega 3.

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Jody Teiche: They work beautifully together.

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Jody Teiche: You don't have to do them together, but they work beautifully together.

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Jody Teiche: So the Cellular Boost is a spray.

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Jody Teiche: You got to be able to get the cat close enough to spray a couple of sprays.

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Jody Teiche: It's not easy.

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Rita Reimers: Could you spray it on their food?

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Rita Reimers: Would that work, Jody?

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Jody Teiche: Could.

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Jody Teiche: You could.

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Jody Teiche: But the better thing is to somehow get it on to some mucous membranes.

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Jody Teiche: You just need a little to get into the bloodstream.

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Jody Teiche: It goes into the bloodstream.

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Jody Teiche: And what they are are trace minerals that are run through a proprietary machine that the formulator created that electrolyzes these trace minerals so that when they get into the bloodstream, they go right to the mitochondria, the center of the nucleus of the cells.

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Jody Teiche: And they electrolyze the cells.

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Jody Teiche: They make them come alive so that the nutrients are better able to be absorbed by the cells and the toxins are better able to be expelled by the cells.

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Linda Hall: Nice.

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Jody Teiche: And that is why the Omega-3 works so beautifully with it, because then the cells are absorbed.

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Jody Teiche: And the Omega-3 is green-lipped muscles from New Zealand.

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Jody Teiche: So they're sustainable.

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Jody Teiche: They're very high quality.

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Jody Teiche: Good.

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Jody Teiche: Of Omega-3.

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Jody Teiche: And I take it again, this is you can take these.

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Rita Reimers: I love things like that, that are human-grade.

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Jody Teiche: Share with your cats.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah, I use some sprays.

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Jody Teiche: I tell you the boost, and I get energy.

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Rita Reimers: Energy, did you say?

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Rita Reimers: I need that energy.

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Jody Teiche: Oh, ladies.

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Jody Teiche: Energy.

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Jody Teiche: Do you guys have trouble sleeping?

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Rita Reimers: Oh, my gosh.

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Rita Reimers: Linda does.

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Jody Teiche: What about things like?

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Rita Reimers: I have trouble getting up in the morning.

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Rita Reimers: It's my problem.

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Rita Reimers: I have the opposite problem from Linda.

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Jody Teiche: Okay.

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Linda Hall: I'm all of the above.

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Linda Hall: Yeah.

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Linda Hall: Once I finally get to sleep, I'm like, I'm hearing you.

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Linda Hall: Okay.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah.

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Linda Hall: That's me.

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Linda Hall: I can't get to sleep.

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Linda Hall: And then I wake up and then I'm exhausted and I want to go back to sleep, but it's going to be spurts.

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Linda Hall: Right.

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Jody Teiche: So this is a show about cats.

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Linda Hall: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: This product that I'm going to talk with you about is not for cats.

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Jody Teiche: So we're not going to talk.

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Rita Reimers: Disclaimer.

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Rita Reimers: Not cats for this.

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Jody Teiche: But this is a product for you guys that is amazing.

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Jody Teiche: So if you end up loving it, then you can share it with your listeners.

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Rita Reimers: So you'll send us the link off air.

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Jody Teiche: I will.

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Rita Reimers: If we like it, we'll talk about it too.

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Jody Teiche: We'll have a little convoy after.

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Rita Reimers: Because if you don't take care of yourself, you're not going to be there to take care of your cat or dogs or children or husband.

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Jody Teiche: It's the core of everything.

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Jody Teiche: And it's not only about being there for the people and animals that you love, but it's about living your best life.

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Jody Teiche: Why shouldn't we feel vibrantly alive?

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Jody Teiche: Why shouldn't we be able to do everything that we need to do in our lives and sail through feeling happy, feeling energetic, feeling trim, healthy, alive?

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Rita Reimers: I haven't lived trim since I worked for Richard Simmons.

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Linda Hall: So, it's been a minute, it's been a minute.

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Jody Teiche: Today we know more and we have more things available to us that a lot of people don't realize and know about.

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Jody Teiche: So this is what's exciting to me about natural medicine.

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Rita Reimers: Jody, have you written a book?

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Rita Reimers: If you haven't, you need to.

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Jody Teiche: I have a book in me.

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Jody Teiche: I haven't done it yet.

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Linda Hall: Okay.

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Linda Hall: You got to get it out of you.

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Rita Reimers: Yeah, you do.

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Jody Teiche: The product that I want to share with you also can share with you, your cats can share the product with you.

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Jody Teiche: And this is, we've heard a lot about medicinal mushrooms.

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Jody Teiche: The last few years, mushrooms, mushrooms, mushrooms, they're so good for your brain.

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Jody Teiche: It's good for your heart.

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Jody Teiche: So good for your, you know, kidneys.

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Jody Teiche: So good for your immune system.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah.

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Jody Teiche: There's a laundry list.

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Jody Teiche: Cats can have mushrooms.

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Jody Teiche: Now granted, there are certain mushrooms that are poisonous to cats, to dogs, to people.

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Jody Teiche: However, I found this incredible blend.

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Jody Teiche: It's a 10 medicinal mushroom blend that is good for cats and dogs.

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Jody Teiche: And people?

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: Oh, I use it every day in my smoothies.

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Jody Teiche: It's incredible.

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Jody Teiche: And again, I met the really lovely couple, Stephen and Angelique, who sell it here in Austin.

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Jody Teiche: But beyond that, I know who the grower and harvester is.

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Linda Hall: That's even better.

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Jody Teiche: And then I know that a 30 plus year mycologist, mushroom guy, expert grows these and harvests them.

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Jody Teiche: And it's all Christine.

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Jody Teiche: So that makes me happy.

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Jody Teiche: So it's called High Vibe, I love the name, High Vibe Mushrooms.

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Jody Teiche: I will send you a link.

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Jody Teiche: You can share it with us.

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Rita Reimers: We definitely will.

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Linda Hall: Yes, sure.

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Linda Hall: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: Support yourselves if you want.

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Jody Teiche: Yes, energy and support for all those things I mentioned, immune system, brain, gut, heart.

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Linda Hall: We all need that.

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Rita Reimers: I need to like order this now.

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Linda Hall: I know, right?

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Linda Hall: We're going to get off and be like...

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Jody Teiche: I feel when I hear about something new that just sounds so amazing and everybody else has had a great experience.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Linda Hall: You know, when I first...

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Linda Hall: I don't have a problem with Western medicine.

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Linda Hall: Neither does Rita.

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Linda Hall: There are Western medicines that I take, however, when I was first diagnosed with MS, the things they put me through, girlfriend, you don't even know.

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Linda Hall: I had problems with intestinal motility.

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Linda Hall: So they removed my large intestine.

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Linda Hall: My large intestine is now hooked up.

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Linda Hall: And that was before they decided it was MS, pain medications, benzos.

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Linda Hall: I'm off all of that junk now, and I've gone to more holistic things.

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Rita Reimers: All those things that plug you up and make you not able to poop, right?

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Rita Reimers: And then they take out your cup.

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Linda Hall: Please give me narcotics when I can't do it.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah, I know.

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Linda Hall: You know what?

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Linda Hall: I've been changed forever by all of this, and I have slowly been finding things that I could work in that aren't that.

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Linda Hall: I'm not against that.

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Linda Hall: I'm just saying there's a time and a place for it.

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Linda Hall: And all medications have some kind of side effect, even if they're small.

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Linda Hall: And if you need them, that might be worth it.

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Linda Hall: I'm a big pros and cons girl.

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Linda Hall: Everything's pros and cons in my life.

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Jody Teiche: But we have to weigh every situation.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Linda Hall: To me, it's worth it.

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Rita Reimers: Well, it's the same with our animals, too.

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Rita Reimers: We've got to weigh the pros and cons.

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Rita Reimers: And I'm so worried about Missy right now because she's 19.

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Rita Reimers: And I know she could live a longer life.

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Rita Reimers: But if I can't get her to put some weight back on, she's not going to be with me much longer.

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Rita Reimers: I beg her to eat every day.

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Rita Reimers: I get her to eat eventually, but it takes a lot of time and coaxing and begging and trying this and trying that.

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Jody Teiche: Yeah.

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Jody Teiche: So there are a couple of things that I'm thinking about for Missy that leads perfectly into something else I want to talk with you guys about and your listeners.

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Jody Teiche: One is there's an all-natural, beautiful appetite stimulant that I got for Sophie, my dog, towards the end of her life because she started losing her appetite towards the end.

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Jody Teiche: And I looked through all the ingredients and I really liked it.

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Jody Teiche: And I will double check about cats.

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Jody Teiche: And if I'm positive, I will send that to you.

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Rita Reimers: I appreciate that.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: And number two is homeopathy.

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Jody Teiche: The other thing that I do in addition to being a pet health coach is I'm an energy medicine practitioner.

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Jody Teiche: And I've been a student of, because you are a lifetime student of this girls, because it is so deep and multi-layered.

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Jody Teiche: But for 35 years, I've been a student of and practicing on and off, but on for quite a while now, of homeopathy.

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Jody Teiche: It is a beautiful form of real medicine that like art meets science.

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Jody Teiche: Yes.

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Jody Teiche: Homeopathy may be able to help Nisie.

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Jody Teiche: So we should talk about how I might be able to help you there.

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Rita Reimers: That would be great.

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Rita Reimers: I appreciate that.

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Rita Reimers: And then of course, when things work, I will share them with everybody.

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Rita Reimers: I hate that we're going to have to wrap up in a few minutes because we have a behavior session in eight minutes.

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Rita Reimers: But are there any last thoughts that you'd like to leave our listeners and our viewers with, Jody?

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Jody Teiche: In addition to homeopathy, there's something that I also use with clients sometimes called frequency scanning.

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Jody Teiche: It's a Tesla invention, Nikola Tesla from the 1940s.

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Jody Teiche: And it basically scans the body of you or your animal, identifies the frequencies that are at a balance because we're all made up of energy, everything by frequency, then sends corresponding imbalance frequencies to gently coax them back into balance.

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Jody Teiche: Quick story, kitty cat named Bobby, she has a great appetite, she's very talkative, she stopped eating, she wasn't talking.

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Jody Teiche: Bobby went into the room because we've got to have you or your pet in a room by themselves for the scan, because everybody has energy, we don't want anybody else's energy.

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Linda Hall: Yeah, mix up your energy with theirs, yeah.

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Jody Teiche: Right.

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Rita Reimers: Makes sense.

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Jody Teiche: And in the optimization, and Bobby literally trotted out of the room, one session of less than five minutes, meow, meow, meowing, and ran for her dinner.

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Linda Hall: That's amazing.

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Rita Reimers: I need that for Missy and Dookie, too.

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Jody Teiche: We need to talk about that.

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Rita Reimers: And this HIV cat that I might be taking in from-

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Rita Reimers: Oh, sorry.

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Jody Teiche: HIV.

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Rita Reimers: I always do that.

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Jody Teiche: That's the human thing.

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Rita Reimers: The same thing.

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Linda Hall: The same thing.

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Jody Teiche: Ladies, I know you have to go.

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Linda Hall: We could talk for hours.

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Jody Teiche: I know.

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Rita Reimers: You need to come back.

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Rita Reimers: We could take any of these topics that we've just touched on and do a podcast.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Linda Hall: You have to come back.

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Jody Teiche: And I would be honored.

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Jody Teiche: And I thank you so much for having me on.

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Linda Hall: Thank you for coming on and sharing this information.

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Linda Hall: It's so helpful.

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Linda Hall: And we've learned a lot and we always take a little bit and then we spread it around too and we're doing our sessions and things.

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Linda Hall: And so, yeah, it's very appreciated.

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Rita Reimers: Please come back and let's take a topic and delve into it.

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Rita Reimers: I'd love to have you back on a pretty regular basis.

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Rita Reimers: We don't want to take away from your podcast, of course.

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Rita Reimers: Make sure you go to Pet Life Radio and look for your podcast.

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Rita Reimers: It's called the Pet Health Coach.

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Jody Teiche: And Bark and Swagger.

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Linda Hall: And Bark and Swagger.

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Jody Teiche: We're in fashion.

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Linda Hall: I love it.

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Jody Teiche: We're in love with those cats.

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Linda Hall: I love it.

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Linda Hall: Exactly.

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Rita Reimers: Thank you so much.

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Rita Reimers: You've really enlightened us and I can't wait to talk to you more.

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Linda Hall: Yes.

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Linda Hall: Agreed.

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Rita Reimers: Thank you.

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Linda Hall: You too.

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Linda Hall: Thank you.

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Rita Reimers: Thanks, Linda, for being my BFF and sidekick and my co-host and everything.

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Rita Reimers: And of course, I'd be remiss if I didn't thank Mark Winter for giving us this spot on Pet Life Radio.

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Rita Reimers: I'm forever grateful.

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Rita Reimers: And just remember us, every day is Caturday.

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Rita Reimers: See you next time.

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